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As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers and sisters in Islam,

Often times today, you'll heard some evengelical neo-con Christian say that Isaiah 17 and Isaiah 19 prophesy about the fall of Syria (Damascus) and Egypt (Pharoah).  Yet, we see that these were made for Nebuchadnezzar during his times and for Nebuchadnezzar's future victories.

In the following, you'll see ample verses about Nebuchadnezzar throughout the books of the Old Testament, and you'll see how the neo-con christians and zionists have hijacked Christianity, and fed the masses lies about the "End of Times prophecies against Egypt, Syria and the rest of Arabia", when there is NOTHING IN THE BIBLE about supports that.


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 FUTURE PROPHECIES??  EZIKIEL 29 & 30 REFUTE THIS LIE!
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 Ezekiel 29
 New International Version (NIV)
 
A Prophecy Against Egypt
 Judgment on Pharaoh
 29 In the tenth year, in the tenth month on the twelfth day, the word
 of the Lord came to me: 2 “Son of man, set your face against Pharaoh
 king of Egypt and prophesy against him and against all Egypt.
3 Speak
 to him and say: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says:
 
“‘I am against you, Pharaoh king of Egypt,
     you great monster lying among your streams.
 You say, “The Nile belongs to me;
     I made it for myself.”
 
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 (17 YEARS LATER)
 Nebuchadnezzar’s Reward

17 In the twenty-seventh year, in the first month on the first day,
 the word of the Lord came to me: 18 “Son of man, Nebuchadnezzar king
 of Babylon drove his army in a hard campaign against Tyre; every head
 was rubbed bare and every shoulder made raw. Yet he and his army got
 no reward from the campaign he led against Tyre. 19 Therefore this is
 what the Sovereign Lord says: I am going to give Egypt to
 Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon, and he will carry off its wealth
. He
 will loot and plunder the land as pay for his army. 20 I have given
 him Egypt as a reward for his efforts because he and his army did it
 for me, declares the Sovereign Lord.
 
QUESTION:  WHEN WAS EGYPT EVER GIVEN TO NEBUCHADNEZZAR?!
 
This is either a fabricated lie inserted in the Bible, or possibly an abrogation from GOD Almighty as stated in the following verses.  EITHER WAY, THIS IS NOT A PROPHECY FOR TODAY'S EVENTS!

Jeremiah 18:1-10
At the Potter’s House
18 This is the word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord: 2 “Go down to the potter’s house, and there I will give you my message.” 3 So I went down to the potter’s house, and I saw him working at the wheel. 4 But the pot he was shaping from the clay was marred in his hands; so the potter formed it into another pot, shaping it as seemed best to him.

5 Then the word of the Lord came to me. 6 He said, “Can I not do with you, Israel, as this potter does?” declares the Lord. “Like clay in the hand of the potter, so are you in my hand, Israel. 7 If at any time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be uprooted, torn down and destroyed, 8 and if that nation I warned repents of its evil, then I will relent and not inflict on it the disaster I had planned. 9 And if at another time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be built up and planted, 10 and if it does evil in my sight and does not obey me, then I will reconsider the good I had intended to do for it.




Ezekiel 30:
 9 “‘On that day messengers will go out from me in ships to frighten
 Cush out of her complacency. Anguish will take hold of them on the day
 of Egypt’s doom, for it is sure to come.
 
10 “‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says:
 
“‘I will put an end to the hordes of Egypt
     by the hand of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon.

 11 He and his army—the most ruthless of nations—
     will be brought in to destroy the land.
 They will draw their swords against Egypt
     and fill the land with the slain.
 12 I will dry up the waters of the Nile
     and sell the land to an evil nation;
 by the hand of foreigners
     I will lay waste the land and everything in it.
 
I the Lord have spoken.
 

QUESTION:  AGAN, WHEN WAS EGYPT EVER GIVEN TO NEBUCHADNEZZAR?!
 
(Prophecy supposedly fulfilled)
Pharaoh’s Arms Are Broken

20 In the eleventh year, in the first month on the seventh day, the
 word of the Lord came to me: 21 “Son of man, I have broken the arm of
 Pharaoh king of Egypt. It has not been bound up to be healed or put in
 a splint so that it may become strong enough to hold a sword. 22
 Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am against Pharaoh
 king of Egypt. I will break both his arms, the good arm as well as the
 broken one, and make the sword fall from his hand. 23 I will disperse
 the Egyptians among the nations and scatter them through the
 countries. 24 I will strengthen the arms of the king of Babylon and
 put my sword in his hand, but I will break the arms of Pharaoh
, and he
 will groan before him like a mortally wounded man. 25 I will
 strengthen the arms of the king of Babylon, but the arms of Pharaoh
 will fall limp. Then they will know that I am the Lord, when I put my
 sword into the hand of the king of Babylon and he brandishes it
 against Egypt. 26 I will disperse the Egyptians among the nations and
 scatter them through the countries. Then they will know that I am the
 Lord.”
 
QUESTION:  AGAN AND AGAIN, WHEN WAS EGYPT EVER GIVEN TO NEBUCHADNEZZAR?!
 
Isaiah 8:4
For before the boy knows how to say ‘My father’ or ‘My mother,’ the wealth of Damascus and the plunder of Samaria will be carried off by the king of Assyria.”


Isaiah 17:1
[ A Prophecy Against Damascus ] A prophecy against Damascus: “See, Damascus will no longer be a city but will become a heap of ruins.

COMMENT:  If you want to use this language in Isaiah 17:1 to mean that Damascus will never ever ever ever ever become a city again, then THAT'S A LIE!  AFTER Nebuchadnezzar, DAMASCUS STILL REMAINED A CITY.  NOT ONLY THAT, BUT IT WAS THE CAPITAL OF THE ISLAMIC EMPIRE THAT STRETCHED FROM SPAIN ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL THE WAY TO CHINA!  So not only Damascus remained a city, therefore exposing the corruption and man-alterations and injection of lies in the Bible, but GOD Almighty decided to further expose your lies by making Damascus

ONE OF HISTORY'S GREATEST CITIES EVER!
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OR AGAIN evangelical hateful and racist scums against us the Ishmaelites and Gentiles, IT COULD BE THAT GOD ALMIGHTY ABROGATED THIS PROPHECY as mentioned in Jeremiah 18:1-10:

Jeremiah 18:1-10
At the Potter’s House
18 This is the word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord: 2 “Go down to the potter’s house, and there I will give you my message.” 3 So I went down to the potter’s house, and I saw him working at the wheel. 4 But the pot he was shaping from the clay was marred in his hands; so the potter formed it into another pot, shaping it as seemed best to him.

5 Then the word of the Lord came to me. 6 He said, “Can I not do with you, Israel, as this potter does?” declares the Lord. “Like clay in the hand of the potter, so are you in my hand, Israel. 7 If at any time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be uprooted, torn down and destroyed, 8 and if that nation I warned repents of its evil, then I will relent and not inflict on it the disaster I had planned. 9 And if at another time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be built up and planted, 10 and if it does evil in my sight and does not obey me, then I will reconsider the good I had intended to do for it.



So, which one of the expositions to your lies, evil, racist, Islamophbia, and stupidity will you now pick?
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AMPLE MORE VERSES THAT EXPOSE THE NEO-CON LIARS AND ZIONISTS:
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Jeremiah 21:2
 â€œInquire now of the LORD for us because Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon is attacking us. Perhaps the LORD will perform wonders for us as in times past so that he will withdraw from us.”

Jeremiah 21:7
 After that, declares the LORD, I will give Zedekiah king of Judah, his officials and the people in this city who survive the plague, sword and famine, into the hands of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon and to their enemies who want to kill them. He will put them to the sword; he will show them no mercy or pity or compassion.’

Jeremiah 22:25
 I will deliver you into the hands of those who want to kill you, those you fear—Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon and the Babylonians.
 Jeremiah 22:24-26 (in Context) Jeremiah 22 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations

Jeremiah 24:1
 [ Two Baskets of Figs ] After Jehoiachin son of Jehoiakim king of Judah and the officials, the skilled workers and the artisans of Judah were carried into exile from Jerusalem to Babylon by Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon, the LORD showed me two baskets of figs placed in front of the temple of the LORD.
 
Jeremiah 25:1
 [ Seventy Years of Captivity ] The word came to Jeremiah concerning all the people of Judah in the fourth year of Jehoiakim son of Josiah king of Judah, which was the first year of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon.
 Jeremiah 25:1-3 (in Context) Jeremiah 25 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations

Jeremiah 25:9
 I will summon all the peoples of the north and my servant Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon,” declares the LORD, “and I will bring them against this land and its inhabitants and against all the surrounding nations. I will completely destroy them and make them an object of horror and scorn, and an everlasting ruin.

Jeremiah 27:6
 Now I will give all your countries into the hands of my servant Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon; I will make even the wild animals subject to him.

Jeremiah 27:8
 â€œâ€˜â€œIf, however, any nation or kingdom will not serve Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon or bow its neck under his yoke, I will punish that nation with the sword, famine and plague, declares the LORD, until I destroy it by his hand.

Jeremiah 28:3
 Within two years I will bring back to this place all the articles of the LORD’s house that Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon removed from here and took to Babylon.

Jeremiah 28:14
 This is what the LORD Almighty, the God of Israel, says: I will put an iron yoke on the necks of all these nations to make them serve Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon, and they will serve him. I will even give him control over the wild animals.’”

Jeremiah 39:5
 But the Babylonian army pursued them and overtook Zedekiah in the plains of Jericho. They captured him and took him to Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon at Riblah in the land of Hamath, where he pronounced sentence on him.

*****Jeremiah 44:30
 This is what the LORD says: ‘I am going to deliver Pharaoh Hophra king of Egypt into the hands of his enemies who want to kill him, just as I gave Zedekiah king of Judah into the hands of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon, the enemy who wanted to kill him.’”

COMMENT:  AGAIN, THIS NEVER HAPPENED!

Jeremiah 46:2
 Concerning Egypt: This is the message against the army of Pharaoh Necho king of Egypt, which was defeated at Carchemish on the Euphrates River by Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon in the fourth year of Jehoiakim son of Josiah king of Judah:

Ezekiel 26:7
 â€œFor this is what the Sovereign LORD says: From the north I am going to bring against Tyre Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon, king of kings, with horses and chariots, with horsemen and a great army.

Ezekiel 29:17
 Nebuchadnezzar’s Reward In the twenty-seventh year, in the first month on the first day, the word of the LORD came to me:

Ezekiel 29:18
 â€œSon of man, Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon drove his army in a hard campaign against Tyre; every head was rubbed bare and every shoulder made raw. Yet he and his army got no reward from the campaign he led against Tyre.

******Ezekiel 29:19
 Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am going to give Egypt to Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon, and he will carry off its wealth. He will loot and plunder the land as pay for his army.

COMMENT:  AGAIN AND AGAIN, THIS NEVER HAPPENED!

******Ezekiel 30:10
 â€œâ€˜This is what the Sovereign LORD says: “‘I will put an end to the hordes of Egypt by the hand of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon.

COMMENT:  AGAIN AND AGAIN, THIS NEVER HAPPENED!

Daniel 2:28
 but there is a God in heaven who reveals mysteries. He has shown King Nebuchadnezzar what will happen in days to come. Your dream and the visions that passed through your mind as you were lying in bed are these:

Daniel 2:46
 Then King Nebuchadnezzar fell prostrate before Daniel and paid him honor and ordered that an offering and incense be presented to him.

Daniel 3:16
 Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego replied to him, “King Nebuchadnezzar, we do not need to defend ourselves before you in this matter.


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ALSO, FALSE PROPHETS HAD ALWAYS BEEN COMMON AMONG THE JEWS:
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Not that the above didn't refute the racist and biggotted Islamophobes of today, but we must also further know that false prophets are mentioned many times throughout the Bible:

Isaiah 44:25
who foils the signs of false prophets and makes fools of diviners, who
 overthrows the learning of the wise and turns it into nonsense,
 
Jeremiah 14:14
 Then the LORD said to me, “The prophets are prophesying lies in my
 name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They
 are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the
 delusions of their own minds.
 
Jeremiah 23:16
 This is what the LORD Almighty says: “Do not listen to what the
 prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They
 speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD.
 
Lamentations 2:14
 The visions of your prophets were false and worthless; they did not
 expose your sin to ward off your captivity. The prophecies they gave
 you were false and misleading.
 
Ezekiel 13:9
 My hand will be against the prophets who see false visions and utter
 lying divinations. They will not belong to the council of my people or
 be listed in the records of Israel, nor will they enter the land of
 Israel. Then you will know that I am the Sovereign LORD.
 
Hosea 11:6
 A sword will flash in their cities; it will devour their false
 prophets and put an end to their plans.
 
Matthew 7:15
 [ True and False Prophets ] “Watch out for false prophets. They come
 to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
 
Matthew 24:11
 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.
 
Matthew 24:24
 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great
 signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.
 
Mark 13:22
 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform signs
 and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.
 
Luke 6:26
 Woe to you when everyone speaks well of you, for that is how their
 ancestors treated the false prophets.
 
2 Peter 2:1
 [ False Teachers and Their Destruction ] But there were also false
 prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among
 you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying
 the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on
 themselves.
 
1 John 4:1
 [ On Denying the Incarnation ] Dear friends, do not believe every
 spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because
 many false prophets have gone out into the world.
 
Acts 13:6
 They traveled through the whole island until they came to Paphos.
 There they met a Jewish sorcerer and false prophet named Bar-Jesus,
 
2 Corinthians 11:13
 For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as
 apostles of Christ.
 
1 Timothy 1:3
 [ Timothy Charged to Oppose False Teachers ] As I urged you when I
 went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command
 certain people not to teach false doctrines any longer
 
2 Corinthians 11:13:
 13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming
 themselves into the apostles of Christ.
 

2 Peter 2:1
 [ False Teachers and Their Destruction ] But there were also false
 prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among
 you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying
 the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on
 themselves.
 
1 John 4:1
 [ On Denying the Incarnation ] Dear friends, do not believe every
 spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because
 many false prophets have gone out into the world.
 
Christian scholar Adam Clarke under his comments on this verse in volume 6 said:
“In the past every teacher used to claim that he received inspiration
 from the Holy Ghost, because every true prophet received inspiration.
 The word ‘spirit’ at this place signifies the man claiming that he was
 under the effect of the spirit. Put them therefore to test. Such
 preachers should be examined with argument. His phrase ‘many false
 prophets’ refers to those who were not inspired by the Holy Ghost
 especially from among the Jews.”
 
Christian scholar Adam Clarke under his comments on Galatians 1:6-7 said:
 
"It is established that many minor gospels had become common in the
 early centuries of Christianity. The abundance of such false and
 incorrect accounts led Luke to write his gospel. We read about more
 than seventy such gospels. Some parts of these gospels are still in
 existence and available. Many such gospels were collected and
 published in three volumes by Fabricius. Some describe the obligatory
 nature of the Law of Moses, the validity of circumcision and
 imperativeness of the Gospel."
 
Is this nonsense a prophecy against Egypt and Syria??  The neo-cons of today use verses like this from the Old Testament, to plot against the Muslims, because we are Ishmaelites.

And I submit to you that neither the original Gospel of Jesus Christ  exists today, nor are the NT's accounts about Christ was crucified are  valid, nor was Paul an apostle.

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As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers and sisters,

This thread is also linked with the other post that is located at: http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,669.msg1545.html#msg1545.

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I the Lord have spoken.

As the Bible contains many verses (by the tens) that warn against false prophets, and false scriptures, I think this statement "I the Lord have spoken", and all of the similar ones like it, above, are another proof of how ridiculous the Bible's scriptures can get.

Allah Almighty Said in the Glorious Quran:

"Know they not Allah Knoweth what they conceal and what they reveal? And there are among them illiterates, who know not the Book, but (see therein their own) desires, and they do nothing but conjecture.  Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say: 'This is from Allah,' To traffic with it for a miserable price! Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby.    (The Noble Quran, 2:77-79)"

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As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers and sisters in Islam,

I just updated the first post above, by adding to it ample more verses that further prove the lies of the neo-con christians and their zionist lords and masters.

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Osama Abdallah