Rebuttal to Craig Winn "Prophet of Doom: Chapter 4" article:
This article is a rebuttal to Craig Winn's article that is located at: http://www.prophetofdoom.net/chapter4.html.
Important Note to the Reader:
Craig Winn purposely twisted and modified the English translations that he used! He changes words in translations and uses non-Muslim ones. I've noticed this a lot through his translations of the Noble Verses that he used from the Noble Quran.
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List of Craig Winn's fabricated lies and deliberate alteration of quotes, WITH CLEAR-CUT PROOFS!
Before we get into the detailed rebuttal of this article, let's look at the following from his Bible:
Aisha in Islam: Let's discuss the age of Aisha being 9 when she married our Prophet (CLICK HERE): 1- See proofs, in the "Aisha being 9" article, from the Bible about little girls as young as 9 were married off and even sold off by their fathers as slave girls to men who were even older than their fathers. 2- See also irrefutable proofs that pedophilia and terrorism exist in the Bible. During the Mosaic times in the Bible's Old Testament, 3-year old slave girls were literally forced into sex under Moses' Orders and Command. You sometimes have to read things twice to believe them! See also: Maiming of the enemies' bodies in the Bible. Cutting the hands and feet of the enemies in the Bible, and hanging their live bodies on trees until they DIE. *** Killing of innocent children in the Bible. *** X-Rated Pornography in the Bible. *** Fathers sticking their fingers into their daughters' vaginas before marriage in the Bible.
Marriage for young girls was widely practiced among Arabs back then, and even today in many third-world non-Muslim and Muslim countries. Also visit: Why Muta (temporary) Marriage was allowed and why it was discontinued. |
Having said all of that, let us now proceed:
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CHAPTER 4
DISHONEST ABE
Abraham was tested by circumcision, shaving his pubic hair,
washing the fore-part and rear, using a toothstick,
and plucking his armpits.
Nothing is more essential to Islams credibility than Muhammads version of Abraham. Islam must prove that he was a Muslim, that his God was Allah, and that he worshiped in Mecca. Recognizing this, Muhammad tried desperately to make the case.
We pick up the trail in Tabaris History with something that sounds like Hitlers idea of Arian supremacy. Tabari II:21 Ham [Africans] begat all those who are black and curly-haired, while Japheth [Turks] begat all those who are full-faced with small eyes, and Shem [Arabs] begat everyone who is handsome of face with beautiful hair. Noah prayed that the hair of Hams descendants would not grow beyond their ears, and that whenever his descendants met the children of Shem, the latter would enslave them. The slavery theme keeps reappearing because Muhammad used the slave trade to finance the spread of Islam. Turning Noah into a racist to justify such behavior wasnt beneath Islams prophetbut then again, little was.
Were going to pass by Muhammads history lesson on the mythical tribes of Ad and Thamud. Their battles with the Almighty seemed important to Muhammad as he dedicated scores of Hadith to them. But I want to focus on the Islamic path to Abraham as it lies at the core of the prophets deception. Tabari II:50 Nimrod was Abrahams master and wanted him burned . The first king who ruled over all the earth was Nimrod. There were four such kings who ruled all the earth: Nimrod, Solomon bin David, Dhul-Qarnain, and Nebuchadnezzartwo believers [Muslims] and two infidels. Nimrod only ruled a city-state. Solomons kingdom only included a portion of the Middle East. Nebuchadnezzars realm like that of Dhul-Qarnain, as Alexander the Great, was large, but neither ruled over the whole earth. As for two of them being MuslimsMuhammad and Allah are again mistaken. There wasnt a Muslim in the batch.
According to Ishaqs Sira: Tabari II:50 Allah desired to send Abraham as an argument against his people and as a messenger to His worshippers since there had been no messengers between Noah and Abraham except Hud and Salih [the mythical rulers of Ad and Thamud]. If thats true, there couldnt have been Muslim worshippers. A thousand years had passed with no religious communication. Allah said he destroyed the Ad and Thamud and he never suggests Abraham visited them. So in an attempt to establish a religious context for his scam, Muhammad destroyed it. The scenario he has just laid out precludes worshippers, and without them, all he has shared thus far concerning the establishment of Islamic rites and the veneration of the Kaaba, could not have been passed along.
As time drew near, the astrologers came to Nimrod, saying, We have learned from our lore that a boy will be born in this city of yours who will be called Abraham. He will abandon your religion and break your idols in such and such a month and year. Muslims are attempting to bestow on Abraham, whom they view as the father of Islam, the same kind of birth announcement enjoyed by Yahshua, the founder of Christianity, but they didnt have a clue when either man actually lived.
Both secular and scriptural histories tell us that Nimrod died centuries before Abraham was born. The clay tablets that were unearthed near ancient Babylon starting in the late 19th century suggest Nimrod died violently at the age of forty around 2800 B.C., two generations after the great flood. Apart from the Bible, Abraham is not as well known. Yet, archeologists have been able to confirm the Biblical accounting of when he lived by unearthing the places the Scriptures say he visited or that coexisted during his time. They have found dozens of corroborating artifacts that confirm Abraham lived between 2100 B.C. and 1950 B.C. These men were not contemporaries.
Since their lives were separated by 700 years, everything Muhammad claims about them is both suspect and uninspired. Tabari II:53 Another story about Abraham is that a star rose over Nimrod so bright that it blotted out the light of the sun and the moon. He became frightened and called the magicians, soothsayers, and prognosticators to ask about it. They said, A man will arise in your domain whose destiny is to destroy you and your rule. Nimrod lived in Babylon but he left his town and moved to another, forcing all men to go with him but leaving the women. He ordered that any male child who was born should be slain. This is a blatant, although not believable, rip-off of the star of Bethlehem that directed wise men to Christ and of King Herod killing the male children born that year in Bethlehem.
The Bible tells us that Abram, the future Abraham, was born in Ur, the great Chaldean city, to Terah. His journey to the Promised Land is detailed in Genesis 11. Muhammad says: Some task in Babylon came up for which Nimrod could trust only Azar, the father of Abraham. He sent him to do the job, saying, See that you do not have intercourse with your wife. Azar said to him, I am too tenacious in my religion for that. But when he entered Babylon he visited his wife and could not control himself. He had intercourse with her and fled to a town called Ur.
Tabari II:53 When Abrahams mother found that she was in labor she went out to a cave near her house and bore Abraham. She shut the cave up on him and returned home. Later when she went to see how he had done, she found him alive, sucking his thumb. Allah placed Abrahams sustenance in it. Muhammad was abandoned by his mother at birth, so he invented this story to mimic his own childhood.
Tabari II:51 Abraham had been in the cave for fifteen months when he said to his mother, Take me out that I may look around. Why bother? After fifteen months of living in a cave, he would have been blind. So she took him out one evening and he looked about and thought of the creation of the heavens and the earth and said, Verily the One who created me and fed me is my LordI have no other god but Him. Thus, an infant conceived the first pillar of Islam. But alas, the Hadith and Quran quickly plummet into spiritual delirium. He looked out at the sky and saw a star. This is my Lord. He followed it with his eyes until it disappeared. When it set he said, I do not like things that set. Then he saw the moon rising and said, This is my Lord. [Perceptive kidAllah began his life as a moon deity.] And he followed it until it disappeared. When it set, he said, If my Lord did not guide me, I would have gone astray. A fifteen-month-old baby converts from paganism to Islam by watching the moon. Sure, why not.
Like so many Islamic Traditions, these were written to provide the context the Quran lacks. Lets dive into the 6th surah to hear what Allah has to say: 006.074 When Abraham said to his sire, Azar: Why do you take idols for gods? I find you and your people in manifest error. Thus We showed Abraham the visible and invisible kingdom of the heavens and earth that he might be of those who are sure and believe. So when night overshadowed him, he saw a star. Said he: This is my Lord? When it set, he said: I do not love the setting ones. When he saw the moon rising, he said: This is my Lord? When it set, he said: If my Lord had not guided me I would be of the erring people who go astray. This is embarrassing. The conversation condemns the message. After Allah personally showed Abe his kingdom so that he might be sure, the Islamic babe turns to the sky, the source of idols, and says, This is my Lord. What is it about Islam that turns everyones brains to mushAllahs included?
006.078 Then when he saw the sun rising, he said: My Lord is surely this, the greatest of all. So when it set, he said: O my people, I am through with those. Surely I have turned my face toward Him who originated the heavens and earth, and I am not a polytheist. The sun, the most popular pagan deity, is now god, never mind it was the moon in the preceding Tradition. After becoming an idolater, he magically turns and says hes through with idols. And after asking a star, the moon, and the sun if they were god, he says hes not a polytheist. All the context in the world, all the explanations ever written, cant undo the damage the Quran does to itself.
Tabari explains it this way: Tabari II:51 When day came upon Abraham and the sun rose, he saw the greatness of the sun and saw that here was something with more light than he had ever seen before. He said, This is my Lord! This is greater! And when it set he exclaimed, O my people, I am free from all the things which you associate with Him. Muhammad wants us to believe that all it took to free this fifteen-month old baby from pagan idolatry, worshiping the sun, moon, and stars, to become a Muslim in the oneness of Allah was for the sun to set.
006.080 His people disputed with him. What people? Depending upon whether you believe Muhammads Hadith or Allahs Quran, hes with his mom or dad. Hes a toddler, having just emerged from a cave for the first time. He said: Do you dispute with me respecting Allah? He has guided me. I do not fear those that you set up with Him, unless my Lord pleases; my Lord comprehends all things; will you not mind?
Let me see if I can decipher this. Over the course of one brief conversation, dishonest Abe tells his father that he and his people are in manifest error, and that idolatry is bad. After visiting heaven he says that big bright shiny things are gods, and that he is not a polytheist. Then he disputes with people he has never seen about their religion. He even says that he doesnt fear their gods, unless of course, his god wants him to fear them. And, wouldnt you know it, after such drivel, he tells them to mind him. This Quranic passage destroys the Islamic myth of divine inspiration, for this is not some minor event in the life of Islam. Abraham is purported to be the religions founder, and this is his moment of awakening.
006.081 Why should I fear what you have set up with Allah, that for which He has not sent down to you any authority. We can only assume that the Abe babe is speaking of idols his people have erected in shrines like the Kaaba. O my father! Why do you worship that which neither hears, nor sees, nor can in any way help you? Even something as simple as this indicts Muhammad. Its a rip off. As we shall see in upcoming chapters, Arabian Hanifs (monotheists) during Muhammads day had it figured out. They had said of the rock idols in the Kaaba, Why do you worship that which neither hears, nor sees, nor can help you in any way?
Do you reject my gods, Abraham? If you do not cease this, I shall stone you. As sick as this sounds, it depicts Muslim behavior. If a son renounces Islam, his father will kill him. One of my friends, a former Muslim, had this very thing happen to him. Hearing the news, his loving father reached for his gun and fired it at his son, narrowly missing him. Mark Gabriel, who holds a Ph.D. in Islamic History, wrote a book about his experience called: Islam and Terror.
006.083 And this was Our argument which we gave to Abraham against his people. And We gave him Ishaq (Isaac) and Yahqub (Jacob) [Oops. Abraham was given Isaac and Ishmael. Jacob came later]; each did We guide, and Nuh (Noah) did We guide before, and of his descendants, David and Solomon, and Job and Joseph and Moses and Aaron; and thus do We reward those who do good (following Muhammads example in the Sunnah). And Zachariah and Yahya (John), Isa (Jesus) and Elias; every one was of the good [i.e. Muslims]; And Ishmael and Elisha and Jonah and Lot and every one We preferred above men and jinn. One of the many problems with the Quran is that Allah was no brighter than Muhammad. Job was a gentile and a contemporary of Abraham. As such he could neither be Abes descendant nor follow Solomon.
I am reasonably certain that the Yathrib Jews read their scriptures correctly to Muhammad. But having a poor memory, and a heinous agenda, he got them all fouled up. I don't say that to be mean spirited, just informative. Muhammad will convict himself of having a heinous agenda a thousand times over before we are through. As prophets go, he was pretty pathetic.
Returning to the Islamicized Abraham, Ibn Ishaq tells us: Tabari II:52 Then Abraham returned to his father Azar, having seen the right course. He had recognized his Lord. Actually, all he had done was recognize who his Lord wasnt. And while that may sound picky, thats all Muhammad really did. Ultimately, he promoted the largest of the Meccan rock idols, Allah, and denounced the rest. He was free of the religion of his people, but he did not tell them that. This, too, is revisionism for the sake of Muhammad. Allahs Messenger kept quiet about his first revelation for several years.
One of the most repetitive and damning indictments in the Quran comes from the Meccans. They recognized that Muhammads notion of casting the smaller Kaaba idols aside so that the largest idol could be feared as the one true god was lunacy. A big stone was no more god than a bunch of little ones. Ishaq:38 Every house had an idol. When Allah sent Muhammad with the message of monotheism, the Quraysh said: Would he make many gods into one god? This is a strange thing. So Muhammad, ever in character, changed the story of the great Hebrew patriarch Abraham to make his behavior seem inspired.
This sorry tale is chronicled in both the Hadith and Quran. Tabari II:55 His father told him, Abraham, we have a festival. If you go to it you will learn to like our religion. The festival came and they went to it. On the way Abraham threw himself down and said, I am sick. My foot hurts. When they went away he called to the last of them. I shall deal with your idols after you have gone away and turned your backs. Abraham went to the house of the gods which was in a great hall. Opposite the entrance was a great idol, and at his side a smaller one, and next to him a smaller one, and so on. Too bad Allah didnt get out more. He would have known that in Abrahams day the Temple of Ur housed just one godSina masculine moon deity like himself. Unlike the Kaaba, there werent a bunch of rock idols lying around.
Azar made a living making the idols which his people worshipped, and he employed Abraham to sell them. Abraham would call out, Who will buy what will be of no use to him? So they became unsellable. He would take them to the river and point their heads at it and say, Drink! mocking his people. At length his mocking spread about among the inhabitants of his town, although Nimrod did not hear of it. Then when the time seemed right to Abraham to reveal to his people the error of what they were doing, and to tell them of Allahs command and of how to pray, he glanced up at the stars and said, I feel sick. They fled from him when they heard it, but Abraham had only said it to make them go away so that he could do what he wanted with their idols. When they left he went to the idols and brought them food. He said, Will you not eat? What is the matter? Why do you not speak? reproaching their falsely elevated position and mocking them.
If youve got one, open your Quran to the 37th surah. So as not to take Allahs word out of context, lets read from the beginning, picking up the highlights as we go along. Seeing Allah as he really is will help elucidate the Islamic mystery. The peace-loving god tells his troops: By those (angels) arranged in battle ranks who are strong in repelling and thus proclaim the Message of Allah! Verily, your Ilah (God) is one! Thank god for small favors. 037.006 We have decked the lower heaven with stars to protect them against all rebellious evil spirits, and provide security from every forward devil. So they cannot listen to the highest chiefs for they are pelted from every side, repulsed; they are under a perpetual torment, being driven off. Except such as they snatch away something by stealth, but then they are pursued by a flaming fire of piercing brightness. In Islam, stars are used to guard against forward devils. The Islamic Ilah (God) named Allah would have us believe that he dissuades and torments evil spirits with physical objects.
037.011 Just ask their opinion (Muhammad). [Whose opinionthe stars, the rebellious evil spirits?] Are they the more difficult to create, or the other beings We have created? Them have We created out of a sticky clay! Are they stronger as a creation? Truly dost thou marvel, while they ridicule. Nay, I dost both marvel and ridicule. 037.013 When they are admonished, pay no heed. When they see a Sign, [they] turn it to mockery, and incite one another to scoff. And say, This is nothing but evident sorcery! I agree.
037.016 What! When we die, and become dust and bones, shall we be raised up and also our fathers of old? Say (Muhammad): Yea, and ye shall then be humiliated: Ye, in truth; and ye will be brought low. I suppose some Muslim scholar thought translating the Quran into Elizabethan English would make it sound religious. But lo, methinks it helpeth thee not. For your sake and mine, I will continue to edit most of the archaic language out of the text. I have also made a habit of correcting much of Allahs grammar, punctuation, verbosity, and oblique sentence structure. 037.019 Then will be a single cry; and behold, they will stare! They will say, Woe to us! This is the Day of Doom. This you denied! Assemble the wrong-doers and their wives and the things they worshipped besides Allah, then lead them to the fierce flaming fires of Hell. Even cleaned up, the message is repulsive.
Allah stoops to interrogate his captives. 037.024 But stop them, for they are to be questioned. What is the matter with you that you do not help each other? Nay, but this day they make full submission.... The sentence has come against us: we shall taste the punishment. Remember, according to Islam, people are never given a choice. They are predestined at birth to perish in hells fire. Thus, this questioning is for Allahs entertainment. 037.033 Truly, they will all share at the Penalty of Doom. That is how We shall deal with the Mujrimun (non-Muslims). For when they were told that there is no ilah (god) but Allah, they puffed themselves up with pride and were scornful. They said: What, shall we give up our alihah (gods) for the sake of an insane possessed poet? This was revealed so Muhammad could lash out at the Meccans. They called him insane for turning many idols into one god. They said he was demon-possessed due to the hellish tone of his Quran.
As you might expect, Allah didnt see it that way. Muhammads alter ego had but one spokesperson. If he faltered, Allah crumbled with him. 037.037 Nay, he has come with the truth, and he confirms the Message of the messengers before him. You shall indeed taste the grievous penalty of painful doom. Tease Muhammad and Allah will burn you. Its the Qurans never-ending taunt.
037.040 Save the chosen slaves of Allah; For them there is a known provision: Fruits, Delights; they will be honored in the Gardens of Pleasure, on thrones facing one another. Round them will be passed a cup of pure white wine, delicious to the drinkers, free from ghoul (hurt) or intoxication, nor shall you be made mad or exhausted thereby. Weve got the thrones and Allahs special brew, now all we need are the virgins. And with them will be Qasirat-at-Tarf (virgin females), restraining their glances (desiring none but you), with big, beautiful eyes. As if they were (sheltered) eggs, preserved.
If the martyrs get virgins, what do their victims get? 037.054 He said: Would you like to look down? He looked down and saw him in the midst of the Fire, in the depths of Hell. He said: You nearly caused me to perish! Had it not been for my Lord, I would have been among those brought there [the suicide bomber said to the innocent children he had blown to pieces]! Allah wanted the mass murderers to know: 037.059 Except for your former death, you shall not be punished. This is the supreme triumph! For the likes of this let us strive. That is the better entertainment.
Hells torments sound a lot like what might have occurred around a desert campfire. 037.063 For We have truly made it as a trial to torment the disbelievers. Zaqqum is a horrible thorn tree that grows in Hell. The shoots of its fruit-stalks are like the heads of devils. Truly they [non-Muslims] will eat it and fill their bellies with it. On top of that they will be given a mixture made of boiling water to drink especially prepared. Then they shall be returned to the Blazing Fire, Allah, Islams terrorist ilah proclaimed.
We have finally arrived at the passage the Hadith was trying to illuminate. We wanted to find out why Abraham said he was sick and why he was playing with idols. 037.083 Surely among those who followed His Way (Islam) was Abraham. He came to his Lord with a sound heart. He said to his father and to his folk, What is that which you worship? Is it a falsehoodalihah (gods) besides Allah that you desire? The Quran didnt define what his Way was. Islam is supposed to be the religion of Abraham yet the Quran never explains what that might be.
037.087 Then what is your idea about the Lord of men and jinn? Abraham cast a glance at the Stars. And he said, I am indeed sick! Abes question about the Lord of the worlds followed by the capitalization of Stars is a problem. In the Quran, capitalization is a tribute to deity. Second, why did Abraham need to lie to accomplish his gods agenda? One of my translations actually alters the text by adding a parenthetical to obfuscate this problem: Surely I am sick (of your worshipping these). Another says sick (with plague). Even Muhammad calls Abe a liar. Tabari II:63 The Messenger said: Abraham told three lies in his life. Two of them were about Allahhis saying I feel sick and his saying The chief idol is the one who did it.
037.090 They turned their backs and went away. He turned to their gods secretly and said, Will you not eat? What is the matter with you that you dont speak? Deprived of place, time, and circumstance, this doesnt make sense. Where was he? Why did he go to these gods? What are their names? And since Allah never spoke or ate, the revisionist Abe is being hypocritical. The following Hadith, stolen from the Talmud, scrambles to make sense of this: Tabari II:55 The people prepared food and placed it before the gods, saying, When we come back the gods will have blessed our food and we will eat. When Abraham saw them with the food, he said, Will you not eat? And when they did not answer, he said, What ails you that you dont speak? Then he attacked them. He took a piece of iron and cut off each idols extremities. Then when only the largest idol was left, he tied the axe to its hand. When the people came to get their food and saw their gods in this state, they said, An evildoer has done this to our gods.
That was from Muhammads Sunnah by way of the Jewish Talmud. This is from Allahs Quran: 037.093 He turned upon them secretly, attacking, striking (them) with the right hand. Then came (people) with hurried steps, and faced (him). He said: What! do you worship what you hew out? But Allah has created you and your handwork!
Lets turn to the salient portion of the 21st surah, named The Prophets, to make certain we are looking at Islams poison pill from all possible sides. 021.051 We bestowed on Abraham correctness of conduct, and well were We acquainted with him. Behold, he said to his father and his folk, What are these images, to which you are devoted? They said, We found our fathers worshipping them. He said, Indeed you have been in manifest erroryou and your fathers. They said, Have you brought us the truth, or are you some jester? This Quranic indulgence also emerges out of the blue without reference to the audience, place, time, or religion. Devoid of this context the passage is senseless today. Yet in Mecca, the meaning would have been crystal clear. Muhammad was being recast as Abraham.
021.056 He said, Nay, your Lord is the Lord of the heavens and earth, He created them and I am a witness to this. I have a plot for your idols and will do something against them after you go away and turn your backs. So he broke them to pieces, (all) but the biggest of them, that they might turn to it. A second translation says: Then he reduced them to fragments, all save the chief of them, that haply they might have recourse to it.
This is one of the most incriminating verses in the Quran. Muhammad did this very thing. The prophet took the largest of the pagan idols of the KaabaAllahand promoted it to the exclusion of the others. He broke the smaller rock gods and elevated the Black Stone so that his people might turn to it. It was as if the early Greeks had broken the statues of Athena, Poseidon, and Hermes so that they could worship the one true god Zeus. How was the biggest idol any more god than the other imposters?
While Ill continue to convey Islams version of dishonest Abe to illustrate how Muhammad crafted his religious scam, I would be remiss if I didnt credit the prophet with his first miracle. He just pounded a nail into his own coffin.
The Quranic story continues with these uninspired words: 021.059 They said, Who has done this to our alihah (gods)? He is a mischief-monger. We heard a youth talk of them called Abraham. Then bring him before us that he may testify. They said, Are you the one who did this? He said: No, it was done by the biggest idol! Ask the other idols if they can speak! They were utterly shamed and confounded. You know they do not speak. He said: What! Do you then serve besides Allah what brings no profit, nor can harm you? Fie [?] upon you, and upon the things that you worship besides Allah! Have you no sense? They said, Burn him and protect our gods. Since Allah never spoke, why didnt that shame Muhammad? And why would the supposed patriarch of monotheistic Islam tell his people that a pagan god smashed lesser idols? Would that not make the idol real? Moreover, the Muhammadized Abraham called a god false because it cannot harm you. The implication is that Allah is real because hes fixated on sadistic torments. Thats not good.
Now that we have an argument raging, its time to reshape Abraham of Ur into the image of Muhammad of Mecca. For this we will bounce between the 37th and 21st surahs. 037.097 They said, Build him a furnace, and fling him into the blazing red-hot fire! They then sought a plot against him, but We made them the ones most humiliated! And he said: Surely I fly to my lord; He will guide me. When the townsfolk of Mecca developed their plot and tried to burn Muhammads britches, he flew off to Allah in his dreams. He jumped on al-Buraq, an imaginary winged steed, half ass and half donkey (like its rider), and cruised to heaven by way of Jerusalem. Although he humiliated himself with his tale of derring-do, Muhammad also claimed that it was really the Meccans who were dashed.
021.069 We said, O Fire, be cool and safety for Abraham! Then they sought a stratagem against him and wished to set a snare, but We made them the ones that lost most! I know Allah loves plots, but this is ridiculous. Why would the townsfolk design a plot to snare him after they were burning him? 021.071 But We delivered him and Lot to the land [of Israel] which We have blessed for men and jinn. This must be a joke. Allah has blessed Israel? Was that the blessing of the PLO or Islamic Jihad?
As the Islamic Abraham flees the fire, we are confronted with an odd transition and unbelievable dialog. 037.100 Lord, grant me a righteous (son)! So We gave him the good news of a boy ready to suffer and forbear. Then, when (the son) reached (the age of) (serious) work with him, he said: Son! I see in a vision that I offer you in sacrifice: Now what is your view! (The son) said: O my father! Do as you are commanded: you will find me, if Allah so wills, one practicing Patience and Constancy! Even with nine words artificially inserted into the text by the translators for clarification, this verse is bizarre. It is as if Muhammad overheard a half dozen Bible stories and tried to tie them all together in one paragraph. Over the course of five sentences he takes us from a gang of nameless people building a furnace to terrorize Abe to having him terrorize his son. And there is a significant detail missingthe sons name isnt stated because Muhammad cant decide which son should be sacrificed or even where or when the event occurred.
037.103 When they had surrendered (to Allah), and he had flung him on his face, We called out, Abraham! You have fulfilled the vision! Lo! that was a clear test. And We ransomed him with a momentous sacrifice, with a tremendous victim! Allah, the counterfeit god, continues to falsify history. 037.110 Thus do We reward the doers of good. For he was one of Our believing slaves. And We gave him the good news of the birth of Isaac, a prophet among the good ones. We blessed him and Isaac: but of their progeny are (some) that do right, and (some) that obviously do wrong. As a reward for Abrahams faithfulness, Allah predicts the birth of the son he almost sacrificed. Brilliant.
Somewhere, sometime, someone may have done a worse job plagiarizing, but its hard to imagine. The omissions, the lack of place, time, and purpose degrade one of the Bibles great events. Muhammad, I mean Allah, was trying to rip off, I mean utilize, the story of Abraham and Isaac. The original provides such a refreshing change from this drivel its worth a quick review.
First, Yahweh sets the scene and unfolds the story chronologically. Genesis chronicles the life of Abraham, the places he lived, the people he encountered, as well as the birth of his two sons, Isaac and Ishmael. Yahweh had told Abraham to send Ishmael out of the Promised Land, and the boy fell out of Abrahams life and Yahwehs plans, fading into Biblical oblivion. As we approach the 22nd chapter, God tells us that Abraham was living in Beersheba. He had just returned from visiting the Philistines in Gaza. Within that context, he speaks to him about Isaac, the patriarchs miracle child from his wife Sarah, the beneficiary of the covenant.
Now it came about after these things, that Yahweh tested Abraham and called to him, Abraham. Here I am. Yahweh said, Take your son, your only son, whom you love, Isaac, and go to the land of Moriah and offer him there as a sacrifice on one of the mountains of which I will tell you. The Temple in Jerusalem was built on Mount Moriah by Solomon to commemorate Abrahams faith. Yahshua would be sacrificed there to save mankind. To this day, it remains the most coveted place on earth. And its a three-day walk, forty miles north by northwest, from Beersheba.
The details of the sacrifice were extraordinarily important to Yahweh. This drama had to be played out exactly as it would happen to Yahshua. The timing was important, too. The call came 2,000 years after the fall of Adam and two thousand years before the Messiah endured the same fate. Remember, Yahweh gave us a patternsix eras of creation followed by an era of rest. It has been nearly 2,000 years since Christs sacrifice and the Bible tells us that 1,000 years of peace will follow his return.
So Abraham rose early in the morning and saddled his donkey and took two of his young men with him along with Isaac. He split wood for the sacrifice and went to the place Yahweh had told him to go. On the third day Abraham raised his eyes and saw it from a distance. Abraham said to his young men, Stay here with the donkey. The lad and I will go yonder. We will worship and return to you. Abraham took the wood for the offering and laid it on his son. He took the fire and the knife. (Fire is a metaphor for judgment and the knife is the implement of atonement.) Walking together, Isaac said, My father. He answered, Here I am, my son. I see the fire and the wood, but where is the lamb for the offering? Yahweh will provide for himself the lamb for the offering. (Notice that Abraham actually answers in Gods nameI Am, or Yahwehevery time he is called.)
When they came to the place of which Yahweh had told him; Abraham arranged the altar, bound his son Isaac, and laid him on the wood. Abraham stretched out his hand and took the knife to sacrifice his son. But Yahweh called to him from heaven, and said, Abraham! Here I am. Do not stretch out your hand against the boy and do nothing to him for I know that you love Me, since you have not withheld your son, your only son from Me.
Then Abraham raised his eyes and looked and saw a ram caught in the thicket by his horns; he took the ram and offered him in place of his son. Because you have done this thing, and have not withheld your son, I will greatly bless you and I will multiply your descendants as the stars of the heavens and through your descendents all the nations of the earth shall be blessed. So Abraham returned to his men, and they arose and went together to Beersheba where Abraham lived.
Real scripture sets human events in context so that we can learn something. Yahweh not only explained the nature of his relationship with man but also explained what was to come, so when it happened, we might recognize the significance.
My response:
You mentioned several points:
1- Abraham was not a Muslim, and his GOD was not Allah Almighty. Muhammad needed to desperately prove that Abraham was a Muslim to strengthen his position and lies.
2- Muhammad discriminated between races, considered Arabs as the "beautiful" race, and condoned slavery and promoted it to generate money off of it.
3- Mistakes in historical accounts regarding Abraham.
4- Nonsense about astronomy such as a star lighting above Abraham that its light covered the sun's.
5- Allah Almighty making the fire being "cool" on Abraham is utter nonsense and illogical.
6- Some of the Noble Quran's accounts on Abraham and others don't exist in the Bible.
Here is my response to your points:
Before I respond, let me first make it clear to the reader: As I explained in my previous rebuttal, it is important for the reader to first know that the narrations above from Al-Tabari came from a book that contains historical accounts that were documented 100s of years after the Prophet's, peace be upon him, death. Not everything you read is accurate and was necessarily told by the Prophet word for word, or even if at all! It is important, if you wish to be objective and honest, to put the Noble Quran as the center for any Islamic argument. If the Noble Quran makes a claim, then it is definitely agreed upon by all Muslims, and it is perfectly authentic. Otherwise, GOD Almighty only Knows about what is true and what is false regarding the narrations that you use in Hadiths and Sunnah books.
In fact, the Al-Tabari volume is not very authentic and very doubtful when compared to the Hadiths' volumes and collections. But even the Hadiths contain much corruptions in them, because they were documented 100s of years after the Prophet's death. The "Sahih Bukhari" or "Authentic Bukhari" in English was the first volume to be compiled. Bukhari is not an Arabic name! Bukhari is derived from the word "Bukhara", which is a city in Afghanistan:
"We now come to the Iron Gate which corresponds exactly to the Quranic description, and has the best claim to be connected with Alexander's story. It is near another Derbend in Central Asia, Hissar District, about 150 miles southeast of Bukhara......." (www.answering-christianity.com/iron_gates.htm)
For anyone who knows the Islamic history, this means that the Muslims spread Islam to the pagan Arabs, established the Islamic State in Arabia, then fought the Persians (Iranians) and the Romans; invaded the Persians and crushed the Romans, then fought the Hindus in Hindustan, invaded much of their lands such as "Pakistan", "Afghanistan", and much of the Indian territories, convert people there to Islam, and then Brother Bukhari appeared from his home town, Bukhara and decided to compile the Hadiths of "Sahih Bukhari".
Are these narrations all 100% perfect and reliable? Any person with the least atom of a brain would say no. I am not saying that all of the Hadiths must be rejected. But for us to day to have close to 2,000,000 of them is quite ridiculous, because they can't all have been written down during our Prophet's times in Arabia. Most of the Hadiths' chains of narrations today have 10s of narrators in them. In the Hadith books, you would see something like the following:
"About such and such, that he heard his father say that such and such said, that he heard such and such say, that he heard such and such say, etc...." Most of the narrations' links have tons of narrators in them, many times more than 10, and these people would be generations after each others! In other words, they're not people at the same age or the same group. And the worst dilemma of all, is that many of these chain of narrations have broken links in them, meaning, that two or three generations are missing in the chain!
Most of the hadiths are corrupt and are not recognized as authentic. Most certainly the books of Al-Tabari and Ishaq are among the weakest and most doubtful sources, because they are more like history books that were written 300 years after the Prophet's death. Their narrations were orally transmitted by others. Many people took hadiths out of context, and many others added or took from them, and many others even fabricated lies, as Allah Almighty Warned us in the Noble Quran:
"A section of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) say: Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers (Muslims), but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back (from Islam). (The Noble Quran, 3:72)"
Also, it is almost impossible to narrate a narration/saying accurately after 300 years in Arabic, because the language is very complex, poetical and artistic:
From www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm:
Problems with the proper Arabic language and the large quantity of narrations:
In Arabic, only original Arabs and those who speak proper (not slang) Arabic fluently, understand and appreciate the fact that the words are very minimum and their meanings are very maximum. It is true and not a deception or innovation by translators to English that a single Arabic word can and would be translated to 3-5 English words! The reason for this is because in Arabic (and this is part of the complexity in grammar, art and poetry of the Arabic language) meanings and not necessarily actual words can be all put together in one word. In Arabic, a word is not original. There are of course "root" words, but in most proper Arabic words, the actual word is not original; meaning that depending on the grammar, letters (of meaning) can be added to or taken from it to add or take from its meaning and intention. This can change the entire meaning of the whole word and sentence.
That is why Arabic poetry is historically known to be a very complex and advanced one.
Having said all of this, in the case of the hadiths, given the fact that there exists "weak/doubtful ones", and what is considered as "strong and reliable ones", it is difficult to know for sure if a single hadith was told as is 100% unchanged (intentionally or not intentionally) by the Prophet peace be upon him. One word taken off from the hadith and the whole meaning can and would be changed to something else.
For those "reliable or strong" hadiths, their sources are doubtful. I have no doubt that the companions of the Prophet may Allah Almighty bless their souls did not intentionally commit forgery or lies. But for one such as Abu Huraira to narrate thousands upon thousands of hadiths is preposterous! Given the complexity and sensitivity of the Arabic language, it is extremely vital that every word be included in the narration. I find it impossible to believe that Abu Huraira and many others like him were able to narrate everything perfectly in its original text.
That is why I accept the hadiths that are linked to the Noble Quran as the
Truth and reject the others.
Also, there is no proof what so ever that all of the accepted hadiths of today were all
written during the Prophet's time. Some or even many of them were probably written
down from individuals for personal use, but the thousands of hadiths (I
was told close to 2 million hadiths!!) that exist today were not possibly
all written during the Prophet's time.
I only accept the hadiths that have a direct relationship to the Noble Quran, such as explaining how to Pray, fast, etc....
Example about my own name to simplify things:
Take "Osama" for example. First of all, Osama in Arabic is written as "Osamat" with the "t" silent. The "t" however is not always silent, and it can be used to give meanings and intentions to the name "Osama". Osama can be written as "Osamatun", "Osamatan", "Osamatin", "Osamata", "Osamati", "Osamato". The punctuations added to the "t" cause for any of these names to be pronounced.
When writing positively about "Osama", such as "Osama bin Zaid", the leader who defeated the Romans in one of the battles, these punctuations are added to his name for praising. Unfortunately, I am not an expert in Arabic, nor can I explain in deep details about proper Arabic, but I know that use of punctuations IMPROPERLY can result in insulting the individual. I can write negatively about a name using punctuations in their proper places.
THE REASON WHY THE NOBLE QURAN IS SO PERFECT IS BECAUSE its grammar was constructed in a very complex way, and the Arabic words were not only original words, but were put together uniquely in an excellent artistic fashion that no Arabic poet could match up to back then when Allah Almighty challenged the Arabs to come up with a "SURAH LIKE IT".
To the reader, please visit: What parts of the Bible and Hadiths do Muslims believe
are closest to the Truth, and Why?
Having said all of that, here is my response to the above points:
1- "Muslim" is an Arabic word that is derived from the root word "Salam", which means peace. Muslim simply means one who submitted himself in peace and embraced the belief in the Absolute One and Living GOD Almighty, and associated no partners (god, humans or idols) with Him. Allah Almighty Said:
"Say: He is God, the One and Only; God, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him. (The Noble Quran, 112:1-4)"
"Then Praise be to Allah, Lord of the heavens and Lord of the earth- Lord and Cherisher of all the worlds! To Him be Glory throughout the heavens and the earth: and He is Exalted in Power, Full of Wisdom!. (The Noble Quran, 45:36-37)"
"Say: 'O People of the Book (i.e., Jews and Christians)! Come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah.' If then they turn back, say ye: 'Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will).' (The Noble Quran, 3:64)"
"And behold! I inspired the Disciples to have faith in Me [Allah] and Mine Messenger [Jesus]; they said, ''We have faith, and do thou bear witness that we bow to Allah as Muslims.' (The Noble Quran, 5:111)"
"God forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with God is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed. (The Noble Quran, 4:48)"
"Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith? For God did take Abraham for a friend. (The Noble Quran, 4:125)"
Abraham, peace be upon him, was not the only "Muslim" before Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. Islam started from Adam, peace be upon him, and continued all the way until Prophet Muhammad. All of the Prophets without any exceptions believed in the Absolute One and True Living GOD Almighty and Worshiped only Him. Abraham was a true Muslim and the father of Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
Prophet Muhammad was not desperate to prove anything about Abraham. Islam is True by itself. It is very simple by nature and is the natural human religion by birth; meaning humans from their very early days naturally believe in the One GOD Almighty. Abraham was a Muslim because he submitted "his whole self to God" Almighty and did Righteousness.
2- As to Prophet Muhammad being a racist and an enslaver, these are all lies against the Prophet. The book of Al-Tabari was written literally 100s of years after the natural death of our beloved Prophet. Many had injected lies and corruptions and fabricated stories to poison Islam. The Hadiths are corrupt and filled with man's alterations and lies. They can't all be trusted, especially the ones that clearly CONTRADICT THE NOBLE QURAN! Racism is not part of the Noble Quran. Allah Almighty Said:
"O mankind! [this includes all races and all nations] We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other. Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well-acquainted. (The Noble Quran, 49:13)"
This Noble Verse clearly refutes the bogus narration that exists in the Al-Tabari about our Prophet saying that the Arabs are the "best" race.
Now as to slavery and enslaving people, again, this is another lie! IT IS THE BIBLE that promotes slavery and enslaving of people! I have written a detailed section with tons of quotes from both the Noble Quran and the bible to back up this claim:
From www.answering-christianity.com/human.htm:
"O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other. Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well-acquainted. (The Noble Quran, 49:13)"
Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari: "The Prophet said, "Give food to the hungry, pay a visit to the sick and release (set free) the one in captivity (by paying his ransom)." (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Food, Meals, Volume 7, Book 65, Number 286)"
Human equality in Islam V.S. Christianity:
See how Islam came to liberate slaves and end the Judeo-Christian and Pagan slavery, and how the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments promotes slavery.
In Islam:
Are Muslims the "Chosen People" of GOD? If not, then who are? No race, color or gender is better than the other.
The liberation of slaves in Islam. The ending of the Judeo-Christian and pagan slavery.
Why did slavery exist during Islam? And how did Islam deal with it?
"Your Slaves are your brothers" in Islam
The Prophet divided the food between the slaves and the free.
Treatment of Slaves in Islam. If you beat your slave, then you will go to hell.
Can a slave request his freedom from his Muslim Master and be granted his freedom in Islam? Yes. The Muslim Master must pay him/her money too to get a nice jump start in life too according to the Noble Quran.
YES, freedom of Religion is allowed in Islam! Islam totally disagree with Afghanistan's Taliban or any Muslim State that execute any Muslim for deserting Islam! Islam also totally disagrees with killing any non-Muslim Missionaries trying to spread their religion in Muslim States. See the proof for yourself from the Noble Quran.
The woman can not be forced into marriage in Islam.
Is there equality between men and women in Islam?
What does Allah Almighty say about Justice for all in an Islamic State?
Does Islam really allow the killing of innocent unbelievers?
Women have the right and are commanded by Allah Almighty to seek education in Islam.
Prophet Muhammad taking revenges for himself and committing murders is a lie! Does Islam really encourage Muslims to take revenge? Absolutely Not!
Forgiveness and revenge in Islam. There is a difference between being a peaceful person, and a coward hypocrite in Islam.
Why did Muhammad take up arms and Christ didn't? Why did Islam spread by the sword if it were indeed a Religion of Truth, and Christianity didn't? See my response to this misunderstanding. Did you know that even Jesus killed his enemies in the Bible?
Is Ethnic cleansing allowed in Islam?
Human equality in Christianity?
Introduction: When it comes to human affairs and relations, slavery is one of the back bones of the spine of Christianity and its principles: "All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God's name and our teaching may not be slandered. (From the NIV Bible, 1 Timothy 6:1)"
"Let all who are under the yoke of slavery regard their masters as worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and the teaching may not be defamed. (From the RSV Bible, 1 Timothy 6:1)"
In either translation, we clearly see that the Bible is not a book for freeing slaves. Slavery was practiced very badly during the times of Judaism and Christianity, and was fought against and ended during the times of Islam. It is part of the Bible's "teaching" to practice and promote slavery! And fighting it would "slander" or "defame" the teachings of the Bible.
My Challenge: I invite any Jew or Christian to bring me one Bible verse that orders its followers to free slaves!
Slavery and racism in the Bible. (Some of my rebuttals are included).
Instant death to those who desert Christianity in the Bible.
The sinless and perfect men in the Bible who are above all.
Being passive in the Bible- The New Testament according to (Romans 13:1-5) orders us to follow the laws of dictators and murderers and not the laws of GOD. Being Coward, Passive and Pathetic in the Bible.
Bad things said about Jesus peace be upon him in the New Testament.
The Bible literally allows for the strong to eat the weak. See how injustice is done in the Bible. When the influential individual sleeps with his neighbor's wife, then no harm is done to them. But when the the ordinary individual does it, then they get put to death according to the Bible's teachings and commands.
Can a slave request his freedom from his Jewish or Christian Master and be granted his freedom in the Bible? No. Slaves are to be inherited forever in the Bible.
Why did Muhammad take up arms and Christ didn't? Why did Islam spread by the sword if it were indeed a Religion of Truth, and Christianity didn't? See my response to this misunderstanding. Did you know that even Jesus killed his enemies in the Bible?
3- In regards to the mistakes in the historical accounts regarding Abraham, there are two main points that need to be mentioned:
(a) The book of Al-Tabari is a history book filled with narrations from all kinds of different sources. Much of it was most probably copied straight from the Bible. It is as I explained and proved above a DOUBTFUL AND UNRELIABLE BOOK! This is not my opinion. This is a fact.
(b) The Bible itself contains OVERWHELMING contradictions and errors in its historical accounts and authenticity as well. Consider the following few examples that consist of historical contradictions in the Bible:
II Samuel 10:18 talks about David slew the men of 700
chariots of the Syrians and 40,000 horsemen and Shobach the commander.
I Chronicles 1:18 says that David slew the men of 7000 chariots and 40,000 footmen
I Chronicles 9:25 says that Solomon had 4000 stalls for
horses and chariots.
I Kings 4:26 says that he had 40,000 stalls for horses
Ezra 2:5 talks about an exile Arah having 775 sons.
Nehemiah 7:10 talks about the same exile Arah having 652 sons.
II Samuel 24:13 So God came to David, and told him, and said unto
him, shall SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE come unto thee in thy land? or will thou flee three
months before thine enemies, while they pursue. thee?
I Chronicles 21:11 SO God came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose
thee. Either THREE YEARS OF FAMINE or three months to be destryed before thy foes, while
that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee;
How did Judas die?
"And he cast down the pieces of silver into the temple and departed, and went out and
hanged himself." (Matthew 27:5)
"And falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all of his bowels gushed
out." (Acts 1:18)
2 Samuel 6:23 Therefore MICHAL the daughter of Saul had no child
unto the day of her death.
2 Samuel 21:8 But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare
unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of MICHAL the daughter of Saul, whom
she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite.
2 Kings 24:8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to
reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the
daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.
2 Chronicles 36:9 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned
three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the
LORD.
26th year of the reign of Asa I Kings 16:6-8
36th year of the reign of Asa I 2 Chronicles 16:1
How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign?
22 in 2 Kings 8:26
42 in 2 Chronicle 22:2
Who was Josiah's successor?
Jehoahaz - 2 Chronicle 36:1
Shallum - Jeremiah 22:11
Also, your original scriptures are all doubtful according to the Bible's own theologians and historians. It's quite hilarious that even the Bible itself admits that it has been tampered with and corrupted by man's garbage:
"`How can you say, "We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"
The Revised Standard Version makes it even clearer: "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'?
But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie.
(From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"
And regarding who wrote the books and gospels of the Bible, well here is a sample of what the NIV Bible's theologians and historians wrote:
"Serious doubts exists as to whether these verses belong to the Gospel of Mark. They are absent from important early manuscripts and display certain peculiarities of vocabulary, style and theological content that are unlike the rest of Mark. His Gospel probably ended at 16:8, or its original ending has been lost. (From the NIV Bible Foot Notes, page 1528)"
"Although the author does not name himself, evidence outside the Scriptures and inferences from the book itself lead to the conclusion that the author was Luke. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1643)"
"The writer of this letter does not identify himself, but he was obviously well known to the original recipients. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1856)"
"The letter is difficult to date with precision....(From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1905)"
"It seems safe to conclude that the book, at least in its early form, dates from the beginning of the monarchy. Some think that Samuel may have had a hand in shaping or compiling the materials of the book, but in fact we are unsure who the final author or editor was. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 286)"
"Although, according to tradition, Samuel wrote the book, authorship is actually uncertain. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 322)"
"The date of the composition is also unknown, but it was undoubtedly during the monarchy. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 322)"
"The author is unknown. Jewish tradition points to Samuel, but it is unlikely that he is the author because the mention of David (4:17,22) implies a later date. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 360)"
"Who the author was cannot be known with certainty since the book itself gives no indication of his identity. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 368)"
"There is little conclusive evidence as to the identity of the author of 1,2 Kings. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 459)"
"Whoever the author was, it is clear that he was familiar with the book of Deuteronomy. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 459)"
"According to ancient Jewish tradition, Ezra wrote Chronicles, Ezra and Nehemiah (see Introduction to Ezra: Literary Form and Authorship), but this cannot be established with certainty. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 569)"
"Although we do not know who wrote the book of Esther, from internal evidence it is possible to make some inferences about the author and the date of composition. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 707)"
"The unknown author probably had access to oral and/or written sources....(From the NIV Bible commentary, page 722)"
"Regarding authorship, opinions are even more divided....(From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 773)"
etc...
How do you respond to this?
Please visit: Just who were the original authors of the Bible?
to see the book's bibliography to the above quotes.
Also, why don't you visit: Contradictions and proofs of Historical Corruptions in the Bible, and see exactly what I mean, instead of acting like a total fool and saying things that even the Bible refutes in it!
It is quite obvious that Christians today believe in third party authors' words as the words of GOD. This is a very serious corruption in the Bible that must be taken into deep consideration by the Bible's followers. Please visit "Is the Bible the true word of GOD?" to see a full and complete paper about the logical corruptions in the Bible, along with many Christian famous priests and ministers opinions that agree with the Bible's corruption. I have their personal quotes in that site.
Also, as to the parts of the Bible that Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, please
visit: www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm
After that, please visit: Prophet Muhammad was foretold in many places in the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments.
4- In regards to the nonsense about astronomy such as a star lighting above Abraham that its light covered the sun's, again, the book of Al-Tabari is doubtful and unreliable. We can't tell for sure if Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him did indeed say these words, especially when they contradict the Noble Quran:
"It is He Who made the sun to be a shining glory and the moon to be a light (of beauty), and measured out stages for her; that ye might know the number of years and the count (of time). Nowise did God create this but in truth and righteousness. (Thus) doth He explain His Signs in detail, for those who understand. (The Noble Quran, 10:5)"
Allah Almighty never talked about stars shinning more than the sun upon earth in the Noble Quran.
I'd like Craig Winn to answer the following wrong statements about astronomy in his Bible:
Contradictions with Science:
Earth is flat, has edges, standing on pillars and never moves:
"He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 104:5)"
"The LORD reigns, he is robed in majesty; the LORD is robed in majesty and is armed with strength. The world [The deceiving translators should've said "earth", not "world"] is firmly established; it cannot be moved. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 93:1)"
"Say among the nations, "The LORD reigns." The world [Again, the deceiving translators should've said "earth", not "world"] is firmly established, it cannot be moved; he will judge the peoples with equity. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 96:10)"
"The sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises. (From the NIV Bible, Ecclesiastes 1:5)"
"He shakes the earth from its place and makes its pillars tremble. (From the NIV Bible, Job 9:6)"
"Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand. (From the NIV Bible, Job 38:4)"
"that it might take the earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it? (From the NIV Bible, Job 38:13)"
"He unleashes his lightning beneath the whole heaven and sends it to the ends of the earth. (From the NIV Bible, Job 37:3)"
"for he views the ends of the earth and sees everything under the heavens. (From the NIV Bible, Job 28:24)"
"Their measure is longer than the earth and wider than the sea. (From the NIV Bible, Job 11:9)"
How do you respond to this?
To the reader, please visit: Contradictions and
proofs of Historical Corruptions in the Bible.
5- As to Allah Almighty making the fire being "cool" on Abraham, this is true and is confirmed in the Noble Quran:
"We said, "O Fire! be thou cool, and (a means of) safety for Abraham!" (The Noble Quran, 21:69)"
It doesn't matter if the Noble Quran's account does not exist in the Bible. The Bible as I proved in responses #3 & #4 does contain contradictions and errors in its historical accounts, as well as, wrong scientific statements.
Also, Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him did not copy anything from the Bible. It is true that Allah Almighty talked about some stories regarding the People of Israel and some events that happened in the past which exist in the Bible, but Allah Almighty's account in the Noble Quran came to correct the errors, contradictions and corruptions in the Bible and to demonstrate that the Bible is corrupt.
Also, just because the Bible contains history in it and was written by many authors, it doesn't make it an entirely Divine and Perfect Holy Book. Like I proved above, there exists OVERWHELMING contradictions and errors in historical accounts and claims in the Bible, as well as the validity and authenticity of the books and gospels that make up the Bible of today, because they were written by MYSTERIOUS people; people who are not known to us today, and who were not even Prophets and Messengers from GOD Almighty!
Please visit: Just who were the original authors of the Bible? to the quotes from the Bible's theologians and historians admitting to this problem.
6- As to some of the Noble Quran's accounts on Abraham and others don't exist in the Bible, I have answered this thoroughly in response #5.
He wrote:
Returning to
the Sira, Ishaq replays Muhammads fantasy in front of Nimrod rather than in the
great hall of idols. After daring the gods to talk, Abraham is questioned by a king who
died 700 years earlier. Tabari II:57 Have you seen this Allah whom you worship and whose
worship you call others? Who is he? Abraham replied, My Lord, Who gives life
and causes death. [The question was too tough so he did the old political side
step.] Nimrod said, I give life and cause death. They chatted about this for a while and then Abraham said, Allah causes the sun to rise in the East, so can you
make it rise in the West? [Good thing he didnt mention the chariot thing, the
angelic handholds, or the garment of luminosity.] Knowing that it was as Abraham said,
Nimrod was ashamed. He gave no answer; he knew that he was not able to do that. Allah
said, Thus was the unbeliever abashedthat is to say, the proof was
against him. Now that Muslims know that the sun does not
follow Allahs commands, shouldnt they be ashamed? Isnt the proof clearly
against them?
Tabari II:58 They pushed Abraham into the furnace. Then the heavens and
earth and all creatures therein except humans and jinn shouted to Allah, Our Lord!
Abraham, the only one on your earth who worships you, is being burned in fire for your
sake. Permit us to help him. Everybody talks to Allah except
humans and demons. Who might they be? Allah answered,
I am his friend. I will protect him. O fire! Be coolness and peace for
Abraham. So following this fireside chat, we read: Imprison him in a building and cast him into Hell.
Abraham raised his head [and contradicted most all of what we have read thus far],
You are alone in heaven and I am alone on earth.
Had Allah not followed
the command for coolness with peace, Abraham would have frozen to death.
Tabari II:62 Abraham and Lot set out for Syria. On the way Abraham met
Sarah, who was the daughter of the king of Harran. Actually, Abram left Ur for Haran traveling along the banks of the
Euphrates River. He was accompanied by his father, Terah, his wife and half sister, Sarai,
and his nephew, Lot. She had criticized her
people about their religion, so he married her, since he would be able to have a believing
wife without having to convert her. This verse implies one becomes a
Muslim by criticizing a religion. Then Abraham went
forth, a fugitive for the sake of his Lord
to practice his religion and worship
safely. Why would Abe fear for his safety after being saved from the
fire? And why, if he was Gods messenger, did he leave town? Shouldnt he have
stayed and tried to save the Babylonians?
No. Recasting Abraham was more important. Muhammad fled Mecca as a
fugitive. He ran to Yathrib, todays Medina because some pagans promised to protect
him. The revisionist Abraham makes the cowardly Muhammad appear more godly. He settled in Harran. Then he left as a fugitive and
traveled to Egypt which was under the rule of one of the earliest Pharaohs. Well,
not exactly. The first Egyptian ruler was probably the Scorpion King. He ruled more than
five hundred years before Abrahams arrival.
Sarah was one of the best humans
ever. She would not disobey Abraham in any way. That was
Muhammads idea of a perfect woman. From Bukharis Book of Belief: Bukhari:V1B22N28 The Prophet said: I was shown the Hell Fire and the
majority of its dwellers were women who are disbelievers or ungrateful. When asked
what they were ungrateful for, the Prophet answered, All the favors done for them by
their husbands.
Next we find that Muhammad Islamicized Abrams
encounter with Pharaoh. The only germane insight into this affair is Pharaohs gift
of Hagar, a Coptic slave-girl. Flunking history, the Allah/Muhammad duo
didnt know that the Coptics were centuries away from arriving on the international
scene. Leaving Pharaoh, Abraham tells Sarah, You are
my sister in Allah, for in all this land there are no Muslims except ourselves.
So what happened to all those scrolls and to the nations who were worshiping around
Allahs House?
Some of what follows includes: Hagar
was of good appearance and Sarah gave her to Abraham, saying, Take her. You may take
pleasure in Hagar, for I have permitted it. The Messenger said,
When you conquer Egypt treat its people well. Theyre kin and deserve
protection. Abraham left Egypt for Syria, for he was afraid of the
Egyptian king and anxious about his evil ways. He settled in Beersheba in the land of
Palestine, which is the desert of Syria. While most of this comes
out of the Bible, it is flavored with the standard Muslim embellishments. One such
addition is revealing. There was no Palestine during Abrahams life. The word was
first composed by the Romans 2,100 years after Abraham died. The patriarch actually
returned to Canaan, named after his great, great uncle. (Folks with King James Bibles may
think Isaiah invented the name, but its an errant translation. Isaiah 14:29 uses
pelesheth, which means: rolling in dust.
Tabari II:66 Abraham dug a well in Beersheba and said, Drink from
it and do not let a menstruating woman dip water from it. Muhammad,
a sexual libertine if there ever was one, hated menstruation with a passion. As you know,
he said that the reason Allahs Stone turned from white to black was it was fingered by menstruating women. And
as sick as that sounds, this next Hadith is used by Muslims to justify brutalizing their
daughters. Tabari II:72
Sarah swore to cut something off of Hagar. I shall cut off her nose, I shall
cut off her earbut no, that would deform her. I will circumcise her instead.
So she did that, and Hagar took a piece of cloth to wipe the blood away. For that reason
women have been circumcised and have taken pieces of cloth down to today.
A menstruating woman came and dipped
water from the well. Whereupon the water dried up. While I do not
know the connection, the next paragraph begins: When
Allah wished to destroy Lots people, he sent his messengers to Abraham, commanding
him to leave their community. [Werent we just told that the only two Muslims were
Abe and Sarah? And Abraham was in Beersheba, not Sodom, so why ask him to leave?] They had
done vile deeds which no one in the two worlds had done before, disbelieving their
prophets and rejecting the good counsel which Lot brought them from their Lord. The
messengers were ordered to visit Abraham and give him and Sarah tidings of the coming of
Isaac and also of Jacob who was to come after him. For Islam to have
any hope of being credible, the good news had to be of Ishmael not Isaac. Jacob
wasnt Sarahs kid, and neither Jacob nor Isaac are of any value to Islam.
At this point, the Muslim mathematicians jumped into the fray: Tabari
II:68 Abraham was sixteen when he
was thrown into the fire, and Isaac was seven when he was sacrificed, while Sarah was
ninety when she bore him. The place of his sacrifice was about two miles from Bayt Iliya
[?]. When Sarah learned what Allah wanted with Isaac, she fell ill for two days and died
on the third. Sarah was 127 when she died. Muslim math is as
confused as Muslim science: 127-90=7. So much for Arabic numerals.
Now we get to the important part. Tabari II:69 After Ishmael and Isaac were born, Allah commanded
Abraham to build a House for Him in which He would be worshipped and His name
mentioned. This must be the House that Allah didnt build in
heaven, that Adam didnt build, that Seth didnt build, that Noah didnt
circumnavigate after Allah didnt raise it above the flood.
Abraham did not know exactly where he was
expected to build it, since Allah had not made this clear [nor anything else], and he felt
uneasy in the matter. Some scholars say that Allah sent the Sakinah to him [a rip-off of
the Hebrew Shekhinahthe presence of Yahweh] to show him where to build the House.
The Sakinah went with Abraham, who was also accompanied by his wife Hagar [Hagar was never
Abrahams wife and Muslims know it.] and his son Ishmael, who was a small boy.
The Tradition continues: A man came
to Ali bin Talib [Muhammads adopted son, his son-in-law, future Caliph, and said,
Will you tell me about the House? He replied, It was the first built
with the blessing of the standing-place of Abraham, and whoever enters it will be safe. If
you wish, I will tell you how it was built. Allah said to Abraham, Build Me a House
on earth! Abraham felt uneasy, so He sent the Sakinah. The Sakinah
is a gale-force wind with two heads, and one head followed the other until they reached
Mecca and coiled up at the site of the House, the way a snake coils.
There are some who suggest that Allah is Satan, the snake who tempted
Adam. Using this metaphor to describe Allahs presence supports that theory. But
whether or not that is true, this passage is troubling. Mecca is nearly a thousand miles
from Beersheba. These places are separated by rugged mountains and virtually impassible
desert. There is no plausible way a hundred-year-old man, a slave girl, and a small child
could have endured such a journey. And this may be why neither Muhammad nor Allah ever
bothered to tell us how they accomplished the improbable voyage.
Tabari II:70 Abraham was commanded to build where the Sakinah had rested.
When he had finished it except for one stone, [guess which one] the boy went away to build
something else. But Abraham said, No, I still need one more stone, as I still order
you. So the boy went looking, and when he found one he brought it to Abraham. But
Abraham had already set the Black Stone in place. He said, Father, who brought you
this Stone? Abraham answered, It was Gabriel who brought it to me from
heaven. Then the two of them finished it. And I could have
sworn that Muhammad told us that the stone was brought to earth by Adam. (Tabari I:298)
Was he lying then, or now?
Version two follows. It is also from Ali:
When he built it he went forth and left Hagar and Ishmael behind. Ishmael became
very thirsty. Hagar climbed Safa to look for water but saw nothing. Then she went to
Marwah, but the same thing happened. Then she returned to Safa and looked around, but
could not find Ishmael. After looking seven times without success she said, Ishmael,
you have died where I cannot see you. You may be wondering why
she would look for water now and yet not have bothered during the three-month desert
crossing. You may be wondering why she would look on the top of barren mountains rather
than in a valley oasis. You may be wondering why she repeated the process seven times,
endangering the life of her child. The answer is Islam. Muhammad needed to make the hajj
rites religious. Even today Muslims are required to run between these mountains seven
times. This explains why they do it.
However, there were problems. Abraham was supposed to be the father of
Islam. In this Hadith, he didnt perform any of the rites. He merely re-re-re-rebuilt
the House and bailed. And the one who performed the Islamic ritual, Hagar, left
Islams most important child alone in the desert (as did Muhammads mother, not
so coincidentally).
The sacred Meccan well of Zamzam needed Biblical credibility too, so... The boy scraped the ground
with his finger and the spring of Zamzam welled up. Hagar began to dam up the water, but
Gabriel said, Leave it.
In the versions that follow, were told,
Abraham and Ishmael set out for Mecca. They took pickaxes without knowing where the
house was. So Allah sent a wind, which had two wings and a head of a snake. It swept the
area around the Kaaba clear for them to build the foundations of the original
House. Not on the foundations, nor to see the foundations, but to
build the foundations of the original House. This was
when Allah said, When We prepared for Abraham the place of the House.
[Quran 22:26]
Since three contradictory versions were not enough: Tabari
II:71 Allah commanded Abraham to
build the House and to call on humanity to perform the pilgrimage. He left Syria with his
son Ishmael and his mother Hagar. Allah sent the Sakinah which had the power of speech.
Abraham followed it to Mecca. When it came to the place of the House, it spun round and
round and said to Abraham, Build on me! Build on me! [Allahs House was
built upon a snake.] Abraham laid the foundations and raised the House, working with
Ishmael until they came to the cornerstone. Abraham said, O my little son, find me a
stone which I can put here as a sign to the people. He brought him a stone, but
Abraham did not like it. When Ishmael came back the cornerstone had already been brought
and put in place. After failing math, science, and history, Islam is
failing architecture. The cornerstone is the first rock laid, not the last. And
cornerstones are big and rectangular. The Allah Stone is small and oval. But again, it
wasnt by accident. The Bible refers prophetically to Christ as the
cornerstone and you-know-who was desperate to be just like him.
How was Abraham supposed to call humanity to this place? The valley was
uninhabited. It was in the middle of a foreboding desert. The first settlement
wouldnt be established for 2,500 years. Furthermore, the Islamic Abraham was piling
un-hewn, un-mortared rocks in a desert ravine. The first heavy rain would have done it in.
Perhaps the fifth version of Abraham in Mecca will be more rational.
After circumcising Hagar, rather than cutting off her nose: Tabari II:72
Sarah said, She will not live in the
same town with me. So Allah told Abraham to go to Mecca, where there was no House at
the time. He took Hagar and her son and put them there.
Allah pointed out to Abraham
the place to build the House [which would make Allah the snake].
. When they reached
Mecca, there was nothing there but acacia trees. If that is true,
Muhammads earlier accounts must have been false. The
House at the time was but a hill of red clay
. When he was done, Abraham headed back
to Syria
. Gabriel dug out Zamzam with his heel for Ishmael.
All I can assume is that neither Muhammad nor Allah had a clue as to how the rock-pile got
there. These wildly divergent explanations are preceded and followed by dozens more. It is
as if Muslims think truth can be found in a pile of lies, if only the pile is big enough.
The Traditions move on to recount a variety of patriarchal Meccan
visits. Never mind that Mecca didnt exist. Muhammad wants us to believe in
fairytales, in talking stones and trees: Tabari II:78 And everything that heard himstones, trees,
hills, and dust said, Here I am, Allah, here I am.
Continuing to give meaningless ritual religious meaning: Tabari
II:81 Abraham took Ishmael with
him on the day of Tarwiyah [the 8th day of the hajj] and stayed at Mina with the Muslims
who were there. He prayed with them the prayers of midday, afternoon, sunset and late
evening. He spent the night and prayed the dawn prayer with them. In the morning he went
out to Arafat, and he spoke to them there until sunset drew near.
This Hadith goes on to detail all of the remaining hajj rituals, all of which are still
performed by Muslims as if they were acting out Abrahams example. He showed them the sacrifice-ground of Mina, then performed
the sacrifice and shaved his head. From Mina he went into the crowd to show them how to
perform the march around the Kaaba. Then he took them back to Mina to show them how
to throw the stones, until he had completed the pilgrimage and proclaimed it to
mankind.
Because the previous account was unbelievable for a myriad of reasons,
not the least of which was that there were no Muslims in Mecca, Muhammad felt compelled to
give it an angelic twist. Tabari II:82 The Prophet said, Gabriel came to Abraham on the day
of Tarwiyah and went with him to Mina, Arafat, back to Mina, threw stones, performed the
sacrifice, shaved his head, and finally hurried to the House. Then Allah ordered Muhammad
to follow the religion of Abraham. [16:123] That must
mean that the religion of Abraham, Islam, can be defined as running between two desolate
mountains, tossing stones at stones, shaving ones head, and walking around a rock
pile. And so it would be. Even today, Islam is known for its rites and rituals rather than
for its righteousness or reason.
As we turn the page, we find ourselves embroiled in the mother of all
disagreements. Even Muhammad and Allah are at odds:
The earliest sages of our Prophets nation disagree about which of
Abrahams two sons it was that he was commanded to sacrifice. Some say it was Isaac,
while other say it was Ishmael. Mind you, these are the very same
people we are reliant upon for remembering the Quran and passing it along orally so
that other sages could jot it down. This might well explain why it is so disjointed,
contradictory, and I dare say silly, (not to mention perverted, demented, and disgusting).
Tabari reports: Both statements are
supported by testimony related on the authority of the Prophet. Both statements are
equally sound since they both came from the Prophet. Thus only the Quran [which also
came from the Prophet] could serve as proof that the account naming Isaac was clearly the
more truthful of the two. But if that is the case, Islam falters,
since it draws its legitimacy from Ishmael. Muhammad claims that he was prophet
quality because he was a direct descendant of Ishmael.
Tabari II:83
We ransomed him with a tremendous victim, [Quran 37:107]
refers to Isaac. But how can that be? In verse 104 Allah says, We called out, Abraham, You have fulfilled your dream,
thus do we reward the good. That was indeed a trying test. So
We gave him the good
news of Isaac. How can Abe have nearly sacrificed Isaac if the
reward for fulfilling that trying test was Isaac?
In version two: Messenger,
repeat the knowledge Allah has given you about the son of the two victims. The
Messenger laughed and they said, Who are the two victims? The Prophet said,
When Abd al-Muttalib was ordered to dig Zamzam [Not Ishmael or Gabriel?], he vowed
that if Allah would make it easy for him, he would sacrifice one of his sons. The choice
fell upon Abdallah, but his uncles prevented it, saying, Ransom your son with one
hundred camels. So he did that, and Ishmael was the other victim.
The first boy spared, Abdallah, Slave-to-Allah, was Muhammads father.
And as we shall soon see, he botched that story as badly as he did the other.
Tabari II:84 When Abraham was told to sacrifice Isaac, Satan said,
By Allah, if I cannot deceive the people with this, I shall never be able to do
it. Satan not only swears by Allah, he says that the bogus
connection between Abraham and Islam is his best way to fool mankind. And he was right!
Its also interesting that the deception would be over sacrifice.
Judaism, Christianity, and all rational civilizations use sacrifice as the means to
promote justice and maintain spiritual or societal order. Commit a crime and you will be
required to sacrifice your money, your freedom, or your life. If crime is without cost,
anarchy reigns. In Judaism, the sacrificial rite for the forgiveness of sin was rich in
symbolism. It was based upon the Mercy Seat of the Arc of the Covenant. And it
was connected prophetically to the blood of an unblemished lamb or dove. Its all
explained in the Torah. In Christianity, Christ became the perfect lamb and sacrificed
himself on our behalf.
But in Quranic Islam, there is no sacrifice. While the Sunnah
perpetuates Qusayys senseless slaughter, its for appeasement, not atonement.
There is no symbolism, no prophetic implication, and no moral reason, as forgiveness is
capricious in Islam. And that is why totalitarian governments use draconian measures to
maintain order. Muhammad was an amoral thief empowered by situational scriptures, so he
failed to appreciate the necessity of sacrifice and he never understood the Biblical
concept of sacrificial atonement. Its why the ransom of great sacrifice
mentioned in the Quran is left unexplained.
Tabari II:87 Caliph Umar said, I asked a former Jew, who was
considered to be a great Jewish scholar before he converted to Islam. He said,
Ishmael, by God, O Prince of Believers. The Jews know that, but they are envious of
you Arabs because it was your father who was named in Allahs command and to whom
Allah ascribed such merit.
Then why do you suppose the prophet said,
When Isaac grew up, Abraham had a dream in which he was told, Fulfill your
promise that if Allah grants you a son by Sarah you will sacrifice him. [In other words:
If you give me a son Ill kill him for you.] Then he drew the knife
across Isaacs throat, but the knife did not scratch him, for Allah had placed a
sheet of copper on Isaacs throat. When Abraham saw it he turned him over and tried
to cut him on the nape of his neck. This confirms Allahs Quran:
When he surrendered, he flung him down upon his face. [37:103]
In the next Hadith its Ishmael:
When Abraham was alone with his son on the trail on Mt. Thabir [a mountain near
Mecca], it is said he said to Ishmael, O my son, I saw in a dream that I was to
sacrifice you. What do you think? Ishmael told him, O my father, Do as you
were ordered
and sharpen your knife-blade so that it will finish me off
quickly.
My response:
You mentioned 2 points:
1- Errors in accounts about Abraham.
2- The House of GOD Almighty that was built by Abraham.
Here is my response to the points:
1- Again, the book of Al-Tabari is like the Bible; it contains so much corruptions and errors in it. THERE IS NO TELLING IF THE NARRATIONS ABOVE ARE TRUE OR FALSE! ONLY ALLAH ALMIGHTY KNOWS. I will repost what I wrote above in case someone decides to copy and paste this section in his/her debate:
Let me first make it clear to the reader: As I explained in my previous rebuttal, it is important for the reader to first know that the narrations above from Al-Tabari came from a book that contains historical accounts that were documented 100s of years after the Prophet's, peace be upon him, death. Not everyth