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A Conversation I had with a Muslim convert regarding the crucifixion lie:

This is a conversation that I had with a Muslim convert brother on Paltalk.  I changed the brother's alias to "Muslim", because he has Christians in his family.  Mine is "www HeTube Com" (www.HeTube.com).  Please pay close attention to the highlighted parts below.  Also, this conversation is further expanded on this website's blog [2, 1, html].  Also see this post inside the thread:

  

Muslim: what is your opinion on the phrase "wa lakin shibiha lahum" and why do you think the quran left it ambigious?

Muslim: shubiha*

www HeTube Com: it's not ambigious. It is crystal clear. He was neither killed nor crucified.

Muslim: but it appeared that way

Muslim: what does that mean?

www HeTube Com: because Jesus was a spirit

www HeTube Com: Spirit not a flesh and blood like you and me.

Muslim: i would believe that myself but Allah says he ate food

www HeTube Com: but he was not a normal flesh and blood.

www HeTube Com: he ate food means here he is a creation.

www HeTube Com: not GOD Almighty.

Muslim: can angels eat food?

www HeTube Com: In other words, you could stab Isa, peace be upon him, with a sword and have it come out of his back, and he would heal it instantaneously [2, 1, html].

www HeTube Com: brother, he was flesh and blood, but of a different kind.

www HeTube Com: not like you and me.

Muslim: i see

www HeTube Com: so even if they placed him on the cross, he was not crucified nor killed.

www HeTube Com: and the christians' bible supports this.

www HeTube Com: Jesus grabbed a maimed ear and placed it back on the soldier's head.

www HeTube Com: Jesus touched blind men's eyes and made them see again.

www HeTube Com: how could a man this mighty and powerful be killed on some stupid cross [2, 1, html]

Muslim: great point

www HeTube Com: great questions by you, dear brother :)

Muslim: well the christians would argue he gave his life voluntarily

Muslim: thanks lol .. i have christians in my family so .. i have to deal with these things

www HeTube Com: Read Psalm 91, Psalm 116-118 and Isaiah 53

www HeTube Com: These chapters all declare he will not die.

www HeTube Com: www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_53.htm

www HeTube Com: see it yourself akhi

www HeTube Com: remember brother. Jesus was a Mighty Being. Not some mere human.

www HeTube Com: It's funny that Catholics have saints flying

www HeTube Com: yet, Jesus could be killed on the cross??

www HeTube Com: mere saints could fly and eye witnesses supposedly saw them.

www HeTube Com: but yet, JEsus couldn't stay on the cross for a few hours??

Muslim: how would you respond to the verse in the gospels ttht says he came to give his life as a ransom to many

www HeTube Com: the gospels were written 50 to 300 years after Jesus

www HeTube Com: so they are not original writings. and most of them are opinions of men. conjecture.

Muslim: yeah i agree

www HeTube Com: Jesus' final parable was...

www HeTube Com: the sign of Jonah.

www HeTube Com: and Jonah was alive before the whale, inside the whale and outside the whale.

Muslim: yeah he was miraculously protected from death

www HeTube Com: yes

www HeTube Com: and Jesus was protected from death also

Muslim: because naturally one would assume the stomach would have devoured jonah

www HeTube Com: and the books i mentioned SPELL IT OUT.

www HeTube Com: visit the link akhi.

Muslim: in sha Allah

Muslim: jzk

www HeTube Com: indeed, the acids would've dissolved him.

www HeTube Com: and lack of oxygen

Muslim: but what would jesus have meant by "in the heart of the earth"?

Muslim: christians say it means hell

www HeTube Com: lol, did he even go in the heart of the earth?? he was placed on the surface in a tomb (cave). No coffin, no burial.

www HeTube Com: christians made up lies brother

Muslim: yeah the hell thing is blasphemous imo

www HeTube Com: and their story supports the Quran.

www HeTube Com: did not JEsus show the holes of his body to the disciples?

www HeTube Com: this again means that he could not be killed.

www HeTube Com: again, you could drive a sword through him and he would not even be in pain.

Muslim: yeah i believe in the gospel of peter it says he felt no pain if im not mistaken

Muslim: the apocryphal

www HeTube Com: apocolype of peter, yes.

Muslim: jzk akhi youve done a great work

www HeTube Com: thank you dear brother. Jazaka Allah Khayr as well. Best of luck in debating your relatives

  

Again, this conversation is further expanded on this website's blog [2, 1, html].

  

  

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Isaiah 53, Psalm 91, 116 disprove Crucifixion:

Bible's OT and NT declare Jesus was never crucified:
  
  • Psalm 116:16 Jesus and his mother, Mary, both thanked GOD Almighty for saving Jesus from harm and death.
      
  • Isaiah 53:10 and Psalm 91:16 indisputably confirm that Jesus never got crucified.  Both Jesus and satan even referenced them in the NT during their conversation.
      
  • Questions about Jesus prove he is not GOD.
      
  • Which Jesus was released and which was crucified?  There were two Jesuses with Pontus Pilot.  Not just one.
      
  • Matthew 24:25-27: Jesus will return as an Arab from Syria.  Mentioned in the Bible and Islam.
      
  • What is the best way to convert a non-Muslim to Islam?
      
  • A Conversation I had with a Muslim convert regarding the crucifixion lie.
      
  • Trinity Crucified!  100s of verses thoroughly destroy the trinity lie [2]
      
  • Matthew 24:25-27: Jesus will return as an Arab from Syria.
      
  • Matthew 27:16-17:  There were two Jesuses!  Not one.
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    The two double-Jesus men & Pontus Pilate in Matthew 27:16-17:

    According to the Gospel of Matthew, Pontus Pilate was standing between two double-Jesus men:

    1-  Jesus Barabbas.
    2-  Jesus Barabbas.
      

    Yes, both were called "Jesus Barabbas" (Matthew 27:16-17).  Barabbas (/bəˈrębəs/; Aramaic: ישוע בר אבא‎ Bar ʾAbbaʾ, literally "son of the father").  The first Jesus Barabba was a Jewish revolutionist who killed Roman soldiers to free his people.  The second one is our Jesus Christ.  Both had no known biological fathers. 

    In the Middle East, if a person's father is unknown, they call him "son of his/your father".  This title is also used for great warriors and great achievers.  Such heroes would be called by the people: "You are indeed the son of your father!", since the hero is his father's seed.  Bastards are also called that (son of your/his father), and not "bastard", to not immediately sound insulting to them.

       

    A Divine set up for Conjecture: [2, 1, html]

    It is no coincidence that Pilate was standing between two almost "identical twins" in names and most probably in looks too, on the same day and hour and minute.  You could not have planned it!  Two strangers who were exact in names and most possibly in looks, were to get crucified on the same day and same hour.  Not that the first one is in February and the other in September.  No:

    1. Same year.
    2. Same month.
    3. Same day.
    4. Same hour.
    5. Same exact name.
    6.  Same looks. 

       

    Clear Divine Purpose played:

    There is clearly a Divine Purpose in the event of the double-Jesus men.  This was not a coincident!  Ample passages and proofs are provided in the following links:
      

  • The Bible declares:  Everyone was set up for conjecture [2].  See Matthew 27:16-17 and many other verses. 
      
  • Roman's Law:  Survive the cross = YOU LIVE! [2].
      
  • This conversation is further expanded on this website's blog [1, html backup].
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    Jesus' life will be extended:

    Psalm 91, Isaiah 53, Psalms 116, 117, 118 all declare that Jesus will not be crucified. 

  • Psalm 116:16:  Jesus and his mother both thanked GOD for saving Jesus.
      
  • The cursed satan quoted Psalm 91 to Jesus challenging Jesus to jump off.  Jesus simply told him that yes, while the promise of GOD Almighty to protect me from all harm and death is there, but the scripture also says: "Do not tempt GOD."  The Bible is very clear about the crucifixion being a man-made lie: Psalm 91.
      
  • Isaiah 53:  Jesus' life will be prolonged (extended).  And he will be saved from all harm.  His life will overpower death (Isaiah 53:12)Isaiah 53:10-11, GOD Almighty will prolong (extend) Jesus' life.  Isaiah 53:8, the Hebrew says that Jesus will be thrown in jail, imprisoned.
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    Trinity is a Joke!

  • Satan Christ?  Jesus called Peter satan for telling Jesus that GOD would not allow Jesus to get hurt.  Yet, Jesus begged GOD to save him from crucifixion and all hurt.  And the Psalms all prophesy about Jesus will be saved from death and all hurt: Psalm 91, Isaiah 53, Psalms 116, 117, 118.
      

  • King Kong Christ? [2]  Satan made Jesus climb the fortress-like temple.

  • Is Jesus greater than Adam?  NT says no.

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    Some Details:

    The cursed satan QUOTED Psalm 91 to Jesus challenging Jesus to jump.  Jesus simply told him that yes, while the promise of GOD Almighty to protect me from all harm and death is there, but the scripture also says:

    "Do not tempt GOD."

    The Bible is very clear about the crucifixion being a man-made lie:

    www.answering-christianity.com/psalm_91.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_53.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/psalm_116_117_118.htm
    (Jesus and his mother
    both thanked GOD for saving Jesus)
    www.answering-christianity.com/questions.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm

      

    Psalm 118 & Jesus the "stone":

    Furthermore, we read in Psalm 118:

    Psalm 117
    17 I will not die but live, and will proclaim what the LORD has done.
    18 The LORD has chastened me severely, 
    but he has not given me over to death.
    19 Open for me the gates of righteousness; I will enter and give thanks to the LORD.
    20 This is the gate of the LORD through which the righteous may enter.
    21 I will give you thanks,
    for you answered me; you have become my salvation.
    22 The
    stone the builders rejected has become the capstone;
      (See Matthew 21:42-43)

    Yes, they beat the day lights out of Jesus (he never felt a thing), but he never died.  He was never crucified.  He was never given over to death.  GOD Almighty saved him.  I quoted Psalm 118:22 above for you to show you that the Psalm chapters and verses that I referenced are all talking about Jesus, and not anyone else.

      

    Never felt a thing:

    Again, Jesus never felt a thing.  Clear proofs from the Bible and the Glorious Quran are given at:

    www.answering-christianity.com/conversation_i_had_on_crucifixion_lie.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2428.msg11210.html#msg11210
    www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2428.msg10971.html#msg10971
    www.answering-christianity.com/topic_2428.htm

      

    Satan Christ?

    Matthew 26:39
    Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, "My Father,
    if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will."

    If it is possible??  Why are you backing down now???  I thought you were the brave King Kong that satan made out of you:

    www.answering-christianity.com/king_kong.htm  (Jesus: King of Kings or King Kong?)
    www.answering-christianity.com/satanic_verses.htm  It is quite probable that satan even made Jesus
    masturbate!  I am not joking around here.

      

    So let me get this straight:

    1-  Jesus calls Peter a satan for telling Jesus that GOD Almighty would not allow Jesus to suffer.

    2-  Jesus himself begs GOD to save him from the crucifixion and all suffering?

    www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_hypocrite.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/ac6.htm#links

    Is Jesus greater than Adam?  NT says no.

      

    Our Creator?

    And Jesus is supposed to be our Creator?  Infidels bray too much, and their whole religion of conjecture, "Christianity", is all empty nonsense and lies.

    The doomed-to-Hell infidels have nothing but garbage NT scriptures and lies.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah

      

    For more, please visit: Satan Christ?

       


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