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The "great nation" of Ishmael and its definition in the Bible:

The sections of this article are:

1-  The "great nation" of Ishmael and its definition in the Bible.
2-  The Arabs, whom Islam came from, are the descendents of Ishmael, and they are the "great nation" along with all Muslims.
3-  GOD's Covenant was taken from the Jews and given to the Muslims in the Bible.


The Biblical verses of Genesis 17:20 and Deuteronomy 4:7-8 were sent to me by brother albustami@usa.net; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.

Let us look at the verses from the NIV Bible:

"And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation(From the NIV Bible, Genesis 17:20)"

"What other nation is so great as to have their gods near them the way the LORD our God is near us whenever we pray to him? And what other nation is so great as to have such righteous decrees and laws as this body of laws I am setting before you today?  (From the NIV Bible, Deuteronomy 4:7-8)"

In the above verses, we first see a clear promise from GOD Almighty that He will make a "great nation" from Ishmael's descendents.  We then see the definition of "great nation" as being a nation that directly receives a Law from GOD Almighty.

This is all great and agreeing with Islam.  Let us look at what Allah Almighty said about the Jewish Law in the Noble Quran:

"It was We who revealed the law (to Moses): therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who bowed (as in Islam) to God's will, by the rabbis and the doctors of law: for to them was entrusted the protection of God's book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear me, and sell not my signs for a miserable price.  If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what God hath revealed, they are (no better than) Unbelievers.  (The Noble Quran, 5:44)"


The Law of the Muslims is the Noble Quran:

"Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than God; that which hath been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by being gored to death; that which hath been (partly) eaten by a wild animal; unless ye are able to slaughter it (in due form); that which is sacrificed on stone (altars); (forbidden) also is the division (of meat) by raffling with arrows: that is impiety. This day have those who reject faith given up all hope of your religion: yet fear them not but fear Me. This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. But if any is forced by hunger, with no inclination to transgression, God is indeed Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.  (The Noble Quran, 5:3)"

 

The Arabs, whom Islam came from, are the descendents of Ishmael, and they are the "great nation" along with all Muslims:

No knowledgeable Muslim would deny Judaism.  Judaism was the "light" of the Jews according to the Noble Quran as I showed above.  The verses of Deuteronomy 4:7-8, while they are talking about the Jews, clearly say that if the people have the "law of the LORD", then they are a "great nation".

Since GOD Almighty promised that He was going to make the Arabs a "great nation", since they are from Ishmael, then this means that the Noble Quran is indeed GOD Almighty's Law to the Arabs, and to ALL Muslims as well that embraced Islam.  The people of Ishmael are clearly the Arabs (through biological descent), and all Muslims through theological descent.  No knowledgeable non-Muslim would dispute that.

Therefore, since "great nation" proves that the people have the Law of GOD Almighty, and since the Arabs were promised to become a "great nation" in the Old Testament, then this clearly and irrefutably makes the Noble Quran as the Law of the LORD in the Old Testament since it came from the Arabs, the "great nation".

 

GOD's Covenant was taken from the Jews and given to the Muslims in the Bible:

All of the Biblical verses from both the Old and New Testaments, and Jesus' own words in the Bible that clearly prove this are discussed in great details at:

Jesus told the Jews that GOD Almighty will take His Kingdom from the Jews and give it to the Muslims.

 

 

 

 

 

Are Muslims the "Chosen People" of GOD?  If not, then who are?

Isaac and Ishmael in Islam and Christianity.

Moses, Jesus and several other Prophets in the Bible never liked the Jews.  How can the Jews be considered GOD's "Chosen People" then?

Jesus told the Jews that GOD Almighty will take His Kingdom from the Jews and give it to the Muslims.

  

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Who was the sacrificed son?

And in Islam there is no "El" in names as in Ishmael?  Is the GOD of Islam different?

Allah Almighty allowed for His Holy Name to be shortened (as "El" in Ishmael, and Lillah for Li-Allah in the Quran, as in Alhamdulillah) in both Islam and Judaism:

  

1-  Did you know that Elohim is Allah? [1, *] [2] [3]

The "im" in Hebrew is a majestic plural for GOD Almighty.  The root Word is "Eloh".  And the more original Jews such as Yemenites and others say Alohim or Alah-im.  And when you yourself pronounce it, you do naturally pronounce it with a double "l": Allah.  Jews do call Him: Allah-im.  Aramaic-speaking people also call GOD Almighty Allah.  See the following videos for Biblical references and proofs.  Also, pre-Islamic Biblical archeological findings have GOD Almighty as "Allah".  So the Original Holy Name for GOD Almighty is not Eloh.  It is Allah!  Eloh is a Hebrew dialect, which not all Hebrew speakers use anyway.  Allah had always been the Original and Universal GOD Almighty even before birth of Judaism, and the existence Hebrew.  And Hebrew is a developed language from Phoenician.  See the following links:

           
       (Click to play videos)

       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_alphabet
       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Hebrew

  

2-  What about “EL”?
 
"El" was a shortened name for Allah (ALIF, LAMED, LAMED, HEY) In Hebrew.  Watch above vidoes.  Allah is also spelled out with ALIF, LAMED, LAMED, HEY in Hebrew to be GOD.  Allah Almighty allowed for shortening of His Holy Name and Titles for the Jews.  This is where you get Ishmael, Garbriel, Ezekiel (short for Allah).  This is also where you get Hallelujah, Netanyahu (short for Yahuwah, or Yahweh) Islam also has shortened Name for Allah Almighty.  Alhamdulillah is short for Alhamdu li Allah Visit:
  • What is the Wisdom of Islam?  Allah Almighty allowed for customized Laws and Creeds for different groups of people.
    There is only one Religion with GOD, and that is Islam.  But Islam was allowed to be customized for different groups of people, and in different times, languages, dialects, ages:
      
    Noble Verse(s) 5:48
    Yusuf Ali:

    [005:048]  To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety: so judge between them by what God hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee. To each among you have we prescribed a law and an open way. If God had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His plan is) to test you in what He hath given you: so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to God; it is He that will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute;

    Arabic (Read from right to left.  Also, all png image files: [1] [2]):

    ‏‏5:48 وانزلنا اليك الكتاب بالحق مصدقا لما بين يديه من الكتاب ومهيمنا عليه فاحكم بينهم بما انزل الله ولاتتبع اهواءهم عما جاءك من الحق لكل جعلنا منكم شرعة ومنهاجا ولو شاء الله لجعلكم امة واحدة ولكن ليبلوكم فيما اتاكم فاستبقوا الخيرات الى الله مرجعكم جميعا فينبئكم بما كنتم فيه تختلفون
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    3-  Who was the sacrificed son?

  • Noble Verses 37:100-111 speak about Ishmael being the sacrifice Ishmael in these Noble Verses promised his father to be obedient to Allah Almighty’s Command for him to get slaughtered.
      
  • Noble Verse 19:54 confirms this Promise:
      
    19:54
     واذكر في الكتاب اسماعيل انه كان صادق الوعد وكان رسولا نبيا
      
    [019:054]  Also mention in the Book (the story of) Isma'il: He was (strictly) true to what he promised, and he was an apostle (and) a prophet.
      
      
      
    Here is Ishmael's Promise:
      
    37:102 فلما بلغ معه السعي قال يابني اني ارى في المنام اني اذبحك فانظر ماذا ترى قال ياابت افعل ماتؤمر ستجدني ان شاء الله من الصابرين
      
    [037:102]  Then, when (the son) reached (the age of) (serious) work with him, he said: "O my son! I see in vision that I offer thee in sacrifice: Now see what is thy view!" (The son) said: "O my father! Do as thou art commanded: thou will find me, if God so wills one practising Patience and Constancy!"  
      
      
  • Noble Verse 37:112 talks about Allah Almighty gave Abraham the glad tidings of the coming of Isaac, who will be a Prophet.  But in the earlier Noble Verse 37:101, a glad tiding was already given for the other son, Ishmael.
      
      
  • Ishmael was put on PAUSE until the covenant of the Israelites comes to an end:



    Like In Jeremiah and Isaiah verses, below, about Arabia's Promise to come later, Ishmael's name and Honor were reserved for Praise for the later generations.  Let us look at Noble Verse 37:108:
     
    37:108  وتركنا عليه في الاخرين

    Here are several of the English translations:
     
    [037:108] And We perpetuated (praise) to him among the later generations.
    [037:108] And We left for him among the later folk (the salutation).
    [037:108] And We left the following salutation to be bestowed on him by the latest posterity,
    [037:108] And We left for him (a goodly remembrance) among generations (to come) in later times.
    [037:108] and left for him among the later folk
     
    A PAUSE WAS PUT ON ISHMAEL UNTIL THE LATER GENERATIONS (after the Jewish Covenant comes to an end).
      
  • Now let’s see what the Bible says about Arabia and Ishmael…
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    4-  The Bible’s Support for Ishmael:

    Even in the altered Bible, there is strong evidence that support that Ishmael was the son to be sacrificed.  Ishmael's name means "GOD Heard", which implies:

  • GOD finally heard my Prayers, or
  • GOD finally answered my Prayers.
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    Ishmael was 13 years older than Isaac, and Noble Verse 37:102 supports that Ishmael was a teenage boy:

  • 37:102 فلما بلغ معه السعي قال يابني اني ارى في المنام اني اذبحك فانظر ماذا ترى قال ياابت افعل ماتؤمر ستجدني ان شاء الله من الصابرين

    [037:102]  Then, when (the son) reached (the age of) (serious) work with him, he said: "O my son! I see in vision that I offer thee in sacrifice: Now see what is thy view!" (The son) said: "O my father! Do as thou art commanded: thou will find me, if God so wills one practising Patience and Constancy!"
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    Ishmael was put on PAUSE until the Covenant of the Israelites comes to an end:

  • Once again, we read in Noble Verse 37:108:
      
    [037:108]
    And We perpetuated (praise) to him among the later generations.
    37:108  وتركنا عليه في الاخرين
      

  • The Bible says:

    Jeremiah 51:33 Arabia has not yet met its threshold, and the time of her harvest shall come.
    Jeremiah 31:31 “The days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah.
      
    Isaiah 41:8-13 GOD Almighty assures the House of Jacob that they are still loved and chosen by GOD Almighty.  Do not be afraid (of this Servant).”  Never was this said to an Israelite Prophet.  THE ENTIRE HOUSE OF JACOB were commanded to not be afraid of him, because he will be a NON-ISRAELITE Prophet.
      
    Isaiah 41 and 42:6, 42:10-13  The Arabian Prophet will come from the people of Kedar with The New Covenant Read more...
  • For ample more passages, visit:

  • www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm
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    5-  Abraham had no child for almost 100 years. He was completely barren:

    Abraham was very desperate for a son.  Ishmael was the greatest gift from GOD Almighty to Abraham.  This is why Abraham named him GOD finally Answered my Prayer.  GOD Almighty put Abraham to the ultimate test by Commanding him to slaughter this precious son.  Abraham obeyed GOD Almighty by attempting to slaughter his son, Ishmael.  Ishmael too was true to his promise.  He never resisted, nor disobeyed.  He was willing to get slaughtered for the Will of Allah Almighty.  GOD Almighty saved Ishmael at the last minute, and Commanded Abraham to slaughter a ram instead.

      

    6-  The corrupt Jewish books say it was Isaac:

    But the name "ISHMAEL" really exposes their lies and gives it all away!  The name clearly suggests that Abraham was MOST DESPERATE with Ishmael, and hence, Ishmael's test would‘ve been FAR GREATER than Isaac's.  Isaac was the second son, and 13 years younger.  The Jewish Law gives double the inheritance to the OLDEST SON when the father dies (Deuteronomy 21:17). 

    This is not a war between Ishmael and Isaac.  In Islam, we honor all of the people of Israel's Prophets and Messengers of GOD Almighty.  Peace be upon Abraham, Ishmael and Isaac. And peace be upon Hagar and Sara.

      


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