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John 1:1 refuted in the Glorious Quran:

   

What does the Quran say about John 1:1?  How was Jesus created and how did he come to existence?

  

From http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2884.msg13680.html#msg13680:
  

As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

Jazaka Allah Khayr for the detailed analysis, dear brother Sama.  Here is my very simple Islamic perspective about the Holy Spirit and the Word:

1-  They belong to the world of Command.  Unlike our flesh and blood, dust and water bodies belong to the world of Creation.

2-  The WORD is used to create Beings, just like the HOLY SPIRIT is used to create our spirits that get blown into us while we're inside our mothers' wombs.  And of course similarly in the world of Creation, our mothers' eggs and fathers' sperms created our flesh and blood, dust and water bodies.

Angels are created from LIGHT, and JINNS CREATED FROM SMOKELESS FIRE.  These are probably different from the light and fire that we know here on earth.  We are also create from the SELF.  The human is made of:

(a)-  SELF.
(b)-  SPIRIT that turns this Self alive.
(c)-  Here on earth, they both are inside flesh and blood, dust and water.


The inhabitants of Hell will not have the SPIRIT in them.  They shall be neither alive nor dead:

[020:074]  Anyone who comes to his Lord guilty will incur Hell, wherein he never dies, nor stays alive.

[003:169] And reckon not those who are killed in Allah's way as dead; nay, they are alive (and) are provided sustenance from their Lord;

Please visit:
www.answering-christianity.com/quran_creator_or_created.htm 
http://www.answering-christianity.com/word_of_god.htm 
www.answering-christianity.com/shooting_stars_miracle.htm 

  

3-  So when John 1:14 says:

John 1
14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

This is Jesus, who was made/created from the WORD, coming to earth in a flesh and blood, dust and water.  Like we are created from THE SPIRIT and the SELF, he was created from WORD, SPIRIT, SELF, and flesh and blood, dust and water.  Every SELF shall go through death:

[029:057] Every SELF (nafs) shall taste death: Afterwards shall ye return unto Us;

  
As to the "Son of God", it's been proven to mean Servant and Creation of GOD:

www.answering-christianity.com/1john2_22.htm 
www.answering-christianity.com/definition_son_of_god.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm

  
Jesus was called ABD (SLAVE) of GOD:

www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm

  

  
  
When you engage the polytheists:

When you engage the polytheists, don't try to get into the analysis of their corrupt texts.  The John gossip wasn't even written by John, and the Bible's theologians admit that it's been altered and corrupted:

www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm

Instead, talk to them from the Islamic perspective similar to what I explained above.  Force the analysis to be Islamic.  You'll win, insha'Allah.

I hope this helps, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
  


As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers Shaad, Sama and Everyone,

I am not sure this argument about "sound" would convince Christians.  I also don't think that saying the John 1:1 quote existed before Christianity also is believable by everyone.  I think we should approach it as follows:

1-  Prove that John's book is the gossip of "John", and not the Gospel of John.  The book had been altered and written by mysterious people.

2-  Prove that Jesus, WITH ALL HIS GLORY, remains a helpless SLAVE to GOD Almighty as all of us.

3-  Explain John 1:1 from the Islamic context as I demonstrated above.

No need to beat around the bush.  The verse is worthless and so is the entire argument of trinity.  Jesus was created from the Word like Adam, peace be upon both of them.  This is why both of them were Miraculous.  One of Adam's Miracles was that he was given the knowledge to know all of the names of the Beings in the World of Command:

[002:031] And He taught Adam the names of all the things. Then, presented them before the angels and said, “Tell Me the names of all these (things) if you are right.”

  
Jesus also was given the BOOK that enabled him to do limited Miracles, including limited creation:

www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_creating.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links
www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm

  

A Numerical Miracle:

By the way, there is a Numerical Miracle in the Glorious Quran regarding Adam and Jesus, peace be upon them both:

www.answering-christianity.com/adam_jesus_miracle.htm  (Adam and Jesus have the same occurrences in the Noble Quran)
www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links
www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#numerical_miracles

  

Quran's STUNNING Divine Miracles: [1]

Here are some of my favorite Stunning Scientific Miracles in the Glorious Quran from among the tens (10s) that are listed in the main sections, below:

1-  Here is one stunning Numerical Miracle, from the 10s below, for you:

The Glorious Quran has 114 Chapters. The sum of those Chapters is 6555 (1+2+...+114 = 6555). There are also 6236 Noble Verses in the Glorious Quran. Now, IF YOU ADD EACH CHAPTER # with the number of its Verses, then you get a list of numbers. So 1 (first Chapter) + 7 (# of its Verses) = 8. Do this for all Chapters.

1-  The sum of the odd numbers from the list = 6555.
2-  The sum of the even numbers from the list = 6236.

See the XLS file for 100% confirmation.
  

2-  The Great Miracle.  Allah Almighty in the Holy Quran called the Number 19 Miracle "One of the Mighty Ones (Miracles)" (74:30-37) [1] [2].  See the 100s of Noble Verses that clearly testify to this Great Miracle.  Also, did you know that Allah Almighty Said in Surat Nuh (that's Noble Chapter Nuh (Noah)) that Prophet Noah lived for 950 years among his people. 

Yet, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone, the entire Noble Surah is exactly written in 950 Letters [1] [2]!  You can thoroughly see this in the scanned images that thoroughly verify every single Noble Letter, in the links.  Click on the links to see the many other Numerical Miracles in the Holy Quran.  Also, see the Numerical Miracles section along with all of the other great sections.  Also, 1,000s of examples in zip & PDF (fonts) files all demonstrated in this article!

  
3-  19 X 115 = 2185 Number 19 and BASMALA Miracle.  The total numerical value of Noble Verses 74:30-37 themselves, which are the heart of the Number 19 Miracle, has a stunning Miracle in it.  The value of these Noble Verses matches the multiplication of the BASMALA's number of letters (19 Letters) and their total numerical values (115): 19 X 115 = 2185.  The Basmala, which full text in Arabic means "In the Name of Allah The Most Beneficent, The Most Merciful" is the Key to the Glorious Quran.  It is recited first before reading the Holy Quran, and it is also obligatory upon every Muslim to start with the Basmala before starting any task.  Again, 1,000s of examples in zip & PDF (fonts) files all demonstrated in this article!

  
4-  Please also checkout the many hundreds (100s) of Great Numerical Miracles, and the many tens (10s) of other Great Scientific Miracles:

  

Quran's STUNNING-Miracles Section: [1]

Click on the following numbers:

1-    Geology, Earth's spherical expansion, formation, Mountains and Oceanology.
2-    The Universe, Time, Astronomy, UFOs and Space Shuttles.
3-    Embryology, Human Anatomy, Formation, and Creation.

4-    STUNNING Numerical Miracles in the Glorious Quran.  With 1,000s of examples! [4]

5-    Medicine, Humans, Insects and Animals.
6-    Life, Origins of life from water and dust in the Noble Quran, Plants and their origins.
7-    Psychology.
8-    Archeology and History.
9-    Great Web Sites and Online Books.

10-   Rebuttals.
11-   General articles.

12-   STUNNING Prophecies, and Allah's Divine Promises to reveal the Quran's Miracles.
13-   Audios and Videos.
14-   Other.

  
For example:

1-  The explosion of the Universe, Galaxies and Stars bring about Smoke.
  
"When the sky disintegrates, and turns rose colored like paint (
وردة كالدهان)." (The Noble Quran, 55:37) [2] [3]
  

  

The Glorious Quran declares that the earth is spherical: [1]
  
Allah Almighty in the Glorious Quran said that earth is:

       -  Spherical: "egg-shaped" [1].
       -  Is rotating around itself.
       -  Is moving in space in curvy orbits [2].
       -  Is in constant motion.
       -  Is suspended in space.
       -  Is swimming in space.
       -  Is traveling through the constantly expanding universe [3].
       -  The sunsetless North Pole miracle in the Glorious Quran [4]. 

  • At the top of the North Pole, the sun never sets, and I showed the video for that, and also quoted the scientific sources for that. Also in the lands near by, it almost never sets either, and I quoted sources for that as well, and also showed pictures of the "polar night" skies on these lands.
  •        -  The Glorious Quran also speaks about many earths [5] and not just earth.
           -  The Glorious Quran predicts
    11 planets in our solar system [6].

      
    This is also all demonstrated in good details in the following
    video file and articles:

    www.answering-christianity.com/egg-shaped_earth.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links
    www.answering-christianity.com/detailed_meanings_of_scientific_words_in_verses.htm.  I used seven encyclopedic dictionaries:


    This is a picture of the seven encyclopedic dictionaries that I
    used that thoroughly demonstrate the Noble Words that contain
    the Scientific Miracles in them, and how they were used by the
    Arabs of old before and after Islam.  Ample quotations, sayings,
    proverbs and examples quoted from these dictionaries at:
    www.answering-christianity.com/detailed_meanings_of_scientific_words_in_verses.htm

      

    5-  The Glorious Quran's Perfect Preservation despite all of the odds and the many challenges to corrupt It.

  • Hafs vs Warsh, and Ahruf vs Qiraat thoroughly compared here.
      
  • Also, the produce Surah like it Quran challenge to all.  Click here.
  • Take care,
    Osama Abdallah

      

      

    The Word encompasses Jesus:
      

    From http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,868.msg3373.html#msg3373:

      

    Does the Bible say that Yahweh created Jesus?

    Yes it does.  GOD Almighty created the flesh and blood Jesus, and GOD Almighty MADE Jesus from the Word.  I have also covered this topic in one of my debates in great details:

     

    Is Jesus the GOD-Man?


    Dr. Edward Dalcour

    VS


    Osama Abdallah


    Jesus Christ belongs to the World of Command.  He is a BEING.  We belong to the world of Creations.  We are CREATURES.  Our SPIRITS belong to the World of Command.  And so does also the Word, the Holy Spirit, Melchizedek (the Jews' Highest Priest who had no father and no mother, and no beginning and no end, whom Christ had to be created "in his order", and had to be Miraculous like Melchizedek in order to be a match to him, and be made "in the order of Melchizedek".  See Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 6:20, Hebrews 7:1-20), and perhaps many of the Angels and many of the invisible Beings out there.  Yet, everything is under the Power and Command and Control of Allah Almighyty:

    "In blasphemy indeed are those that say that God is Christ the son of Mary. Say: "Who then hath the least power against God, if His will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all every - one that is on the earth? For to God belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what He pleaseth. For God hath power over all things."  (The Noble Quran, 5:17)"

    Jesus was declared to be the "first and the last" and the "beginning and the end".  So what is Jesus' first or beginning?  It's when he WAS or WAS MADE according to John 1:1.  Jesus came from the "REALM OF COMMAND" according to the Glorious Quran.  The Bible also agrees with this:

    John 1
    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God with authority.

    Why did I cross "God" and replace it with "with authority"?  The following gives the clear answer:

      

    The Word encompasses Jesus:

      

    From http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2884.msg13839.html#msg13839:

    From brother Shaad:

    The Logos and Jesus are differentiated in Revelation....

    Revelation 20:4 King James Version (KJV)

    4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God...

       
    Revelation 1:2

    2 who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ


    Jazaka Allah Khayr, dear brother Shaad.  I took the liberty to add the emphasis to your text, akhi.  Indeed, the Word of GOD Almighty ENCOMPASSES Jesus, because he was made/created from it; exactly as Islam declares.

    Trinity is false.  I have added your addition to:

    www.answering-christianity.com/word_of_god.htm

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah



     
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    One might ask: Why was "God" crossed out and replaced with "with authority"?

    Answer: Because the same word (THEOS or the compound one HOTHEOS) was also used for satan to describe him the "God of this world" in 2 Corinthians 4:4:

    "The GOD of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.  (From the NIV Bible, 2 Corinthians 4:4)"

    SATAN WAS CALLED GOD in 2 Corinthians 4:4.  Yet, satan, like the idols, fails the challenge of GOD Almighty to prove that they are GOD: 
       
    Isaiah 41
    21 Come then, says the Lord, your pleadings! Let the King of Jacob hear your contentions;
    22 let them come forward, these other gods, and tell us the future. So read the past for us, that the study of it may disclose what needs must follow; coming events make known.
    23 Foretell you what is yet to be, we shall know you are gods indeed. Then, if you have the power, grant good or ill fortune to mankind; confer we, and pass judgment on it! 
    24 Why, you are all empty air, a nothing that nothing can effect; he courts his own shame, that makes choice of you.


    Satan can not do any of these.  So THEOS ("God", the same Greek word used for The Word in John 1:1)  means having rule and authority, and not being actually GOD Almighty Himself.

    The cursed satan obviously was no one's Creator.  So the use of the word "GOD" for him is a mistranslation, because GOD here means one with authority or rule, and not actually Allah Almighty Himself.  The same thing about Jesus Christ, who was created from the Word of Allah Almighty.  Jesus was given a limited authority by Allah Almighty here on earth ONLY:

    John 5
    25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
    26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
    27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.


    John 17:21-22
    21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
    22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:


    Matthew 28:18
    18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

    The Bible declares that Jesus is the one who will inherit EARTH after he crushes satan.  This is where he is called the HEIR OF GOD.  The Bible limits Jesus inheritence to earth only, and also limits Jesus' power and authority to earth only as well.  Please visit: 

    http://www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_heir_of_god_lie.htm

    This is also where Jesus was called called:

    1-  Mighty God.
    2-  Wonderful Counsler.
    3-  Everlasting Father (Rabbi).
    4-  Prince of Peace.

    This is all discussed in great details at: http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,868.msg3122.html#msg3122.

    All Jewish Rabbis were called "Father".  This is also where Roman Catholics get the "Father" title from.  And Jesus being "Everlasting Father" means he is the highest Jewish Rabbi and Messiah, because he is the Messiah and the King of the Jews.  See the previous posts above for a lot more details.

    Also, Son of GOD in the Bible means a Righteous Chosen Servant of GOD Almighty.  Also, GOD Almighty called "THE FATHER" means He is the Al-Knowing and Al-Mighty GOD Almighty.  Also, all believers are called GOD in the Bible: 

    Psalm 82:6  "I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' "

    For ample more proofs, please visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm.

    And again, please visit the link that I gave above for ample more Biblical verses and proofs and discussions:  http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,868.msg3122.html#msg3122.

    Also visit this important discussion about Jesus' Will, and how GOD Almighty makes him live ("I live because of GOD"):  http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1617.msg6417.html#msg6417

    Also, the following are my thorough answers to many of the Questions that were asked regarding trintiy on this board: http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1635.msg6491.html#msg6491

    Also on the main website, you can visit the Answering Trinity main section, which has tons of articles and refutations to the falsehood of trinity.

    Also visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_had_no_will.htm.
     
     


     
    Son of GOD definition:

    In the Bible, "the Son" refers to the Messiah, - the Ultimate Messenger to the Jews.  Son in their time meant Servant of GOD.  Allah Almighty also explained it precisely like this in the Glorious Quran: "....servants raised to honour.  (The Noble Quran, 21:26)".  Please visit:

    www.answering-christianity.com/definition_son_of_god.htm

    This is what we will be called in Heaven, and Allah Almighty also does recognize "Son of GOD" title in the Glorious Quran, but Says that they are no more than pious "....servants raised to honour.  (The Noble Quran, 21:26)".  Nothing Divine about them except that they exist with Allah Almighty Eternally in Heaven.  But as far as Divine Authority and Power, all Divine Authority and Power belong to Allah Almighty Alone and none else.  You can visit:
      
    www.answering-christianity.com/definition_son_of_god.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god_in_bible_and_quran_debate.ppt
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_translation.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/debate_templates.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm

    Trinity Crucified!  100s of verses thoroughly destroy the trinity lie.

    And other great figures in the Old Testament were also called:

    1-  GOD (El) of other people.
    2-  Son of GOD.
    3-  Begotten Son of GOD.
    4-  GOD's First Born.
    5-  GOD's Heir and Heirs (for believers).
    6-  GODly name with Yahweh and El attached to the name.
    7-  King of Kings (called by Yahweh Himself in the OT).
    8-  All believers are GODs (Elohim) and Sons of GOD (Beni Elohim).
      

    Is Jesus "God's Son" or "God's Servant (SLAVE)?" [1]

    King James Version
    Acts 3:25 - Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

    Acts 3:26 - Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

    New King James Version
    Acts 3:25 - You are the sons of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, 'And in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed.

    Acts 3:26 - To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning every one of you away from his iniquities.

    "Servant" here is slave.  Jesus was called ABD (SLAVE) in the OT [2], the
    same word used for the Jews' slaves, and all slaves in general, throughout
    the Bible [
    2].  Jesus, the abd of GOD, is also the slave of GOD in the NT.

    In Arabic also it's the same.  My name Osama Abdallah, which means
    Osama slave of Allah (GOD).  Slave is a subject of GOD.  A servant is
    independent and has a free will.  He/she can quit serving.  But a
    slave (ABD) is OWNED.
       

    I elaborated on this point in details at:

    www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/questions.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm#king_of_kings_lie
    www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm

    The Servants are the Prophets of Israel.  But Jesus is "the Son" because he is the Messiah, the highest Jew and highest Jewish Prophet.

      

    Jesus was called ABD (SLAVE) of GOD:

    www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm

      

    John 1:1:

    John 1:1 answered from the Glorious Quran Includes a Scientific Miracle in the Glorious Quran.

    John 1:1
    "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God
    was with authority (same Greek word for satan's rule [1] [2] [3])
    ."

      

    The Word encompasses Jesus:

    From http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2884.msg13839.html#msg13839:

    From brother Shaad:

    The Logos and Jesus are differentiated in Revelation....

    Revelation 20:4 King James Version (KJV)

    4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God...

    Revelation 1:2

    2 who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ


    Jazaka Allah Khayr, dear brother Shaad.  I took the liberty to add the emphasis to your text, akhi.  Indeed, the Word of GOD Almighty ENCOMPASSES Jesus, because he was made/created from it; exactly as Islam declares.

    Trinity is false.  I have added your addition to:

    www.answering-christianity.com/word_of_god.htm

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah

      

    Messiah definition:

    www.answering-christianity.com/definition_of_maseeh_in_quran.htm


    2 The same was in the beginning with God (YAHWEH ALMIGHTY).
    All things were made by him (that's YAHWEH ALMIGHTY); and without him was not any thing made that was made.
    4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
    5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

    6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
    7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
    8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
    9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
    10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
    11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
    12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
    13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
    14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
    15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
    16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
    17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.



    The World of GOD's Command:

    In Islam there are:

    1-  GOD Almighty, the Supreme and Soverign LORD and Creator of Everything.

    2-  Then under GOD Almighty, there is what is known in Islam as عالم الأمر or the World of Command.  This is where the Word of GOD Almighty, the Spirit (includes the Holy Spirit), and perhaps many of the special Angels were all WERE MADE IN.  Allah Almighty Made a reference regarding this World in many Noble Verses such as the following:

    ‏2:117 بديع السماوات والارض واذا قضى امرا فانما يقول له كن فيكون 

    [002:117]  To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: When He decreeth a matter, He saith to it: "Be," and it is.

    ‏3:47 قالت رب انى يكون لي ولد ولم يمسسني بشر قال كذلك الله يخلق مايشاء اذا قضى امرا فانما يقول له كن فيكون 

    [003:047]  She said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?" He said: "Even so: God createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, 'Be,' and it is!

    ‏3:59 ان مثل عيسى عند الله كمثل ادم خلقه من تراب ثم قال له كن فيكون 

    [003:059]  The similitude of Jesus before God is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was.

    ‏6:73 وهو الذي خلق السماوات والارض بالحق ويوم يقول كن فيكون قوله الحق وله الملك يوم ينفخ في الصور عالم الغيب والشهادة وهو الحكيم الخبير 

    [006:073]  It is He who created the heavens and the earth in true (proportions): the day He saith, "Be," behold! it is. His word is the truth. His will be the dominion the day the trumpet will be blown. He knoweth the unseen as well as that which is open. For He is the Wise, well acquainted (with all things).

    ‏16:40 انما قولنا لشئ اذا اردناه ان نقول له كن فيكون

    [016:040]  For to anything which We have willed, We but say the word, "Be", and it is.

    ‏19:35 ماكان لله ان يتخذ من ولد سبحانه اذا قضى امرا فانما يقول له كن فيكون 

    [019:035]  It is not befitting to (the majesty of) God that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, "Be", and it is.

    "They ask thee concerning the Spirit (of inspiration). Say: 'The Spirit (cometh) by command of my Lord: of knowledge it is only a little that is communicated to you, (O men!)' (The Noble Quran, 17:85)"

    [097:004]  Therein come down the angels and the Spirit by God's Command, on every errand:

    This World we call in Islam "Aalam Al-Amr" (عالم الأمر) or the World of the Command of GOD Almighty, where everything in it was Created by a Simple Command from GOD Almighty of BE and THEY WERE.

    The Bible too speaks about Spirits, and interestingly, the Spirit of FEARING GOD will rest upon Jesus, the Servant of GOD Almighty:

    Isaiah 11:1-3 
    "1. A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.
    2. The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him (Jesus)-- the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of
    counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD (Jesus fearing his GOD)-- 
    3. and he will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or
    decide by what he hears with his ears;"


    For ample more details and proofs, please visit: 

    http://www.answering-christianity.com/spirit.htm
    http://www.answering-christianity.com/holy_spirit.htm


    3-  And there is Alam Al-Khalq (عالم الخلق) or the World of Creation.  This is where the water and dust, and the flesh and blood creations are.  And this is also where the SELF (nafs) and the SPIRIT (rouh), two seperate beings, enter into our fleshes to make us Humans.  This is also where we carry the Attributes of GOD Almighty in Islam, or as the Bible puts it, this is where we have become the Image of GOD Almighty, or were created in the Image of GOD Almighty.  

    I talked about SELF (nafs) and SPIRIT (rouh) in great details in the past on this blog.  For ample more details, please visit: 

    http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,650.msg1523.html#msg1523

    http://www.answering-christianity.com/let_us.htm

      

    And what is Jesus' End or Last?

    According to the Bible, Jesus Christ must inherit the earth from GOD Almighty by crushing all evil on it, forever.  Jesus is the HEIR OF GOD ALMIGHTY only on earth and nothing more.  The Bible makes this abdundantly clear.  Please visit: 

    www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_heir_of_god_lie.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links

    The Bible also calls all believers as the HEIRS OF GOD ALMIGHTY.  So Jesus' Last or End is when the Lord Jesus Christ defeats the army of the anti-Christ, and establishes the Kingdom of GOD Almighty here on Earth while the earth and the Universe lasts, and before DEATH comes upon all creations:

    [003:185]  Every soul shall have a taste of death: And only on the Day of Judgment shall you be paid your full recompense. Only he who is saved far from the Fire and admitted to the Garden will have attained the object (of Life): For the life of this world is but goods and chattels of deception. 

    According to Islam, everything that was ever created and made by Allah Almighty will and must taste death.  They must go through death.  Only Allah Almighty doesn't die and never dies, and will never die.

    I ask Allah Almighty that this helps to clarify the blasphemous trinity confusions.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah

      

    Other Islamic Links:

    1-  Prophet Jesus (Isa), peace be upon him, like Adam, peace be upon him, was created from the Word of GOD Almighty

    2-  Jesus was not the entire Word of GOD Almighty.  He rather was a Word from the Word; meaning that he was created from the Word of GOD Almighty.

    Please visit:

    1. GOD Almighty is Greater than Jesus.
       
    2. No one is "Good", including Jesus. Only GOD Almighty is Good.
       
    3. Jesus said he doesn't know when the Hour will come.  Only GOD Almighty Knows.
       
    4. Jesus said that OUR God is One GOD.
       
    5. Jesus also said "My GOD and your GOD".
       
    6. Jesus bowed his face down to the ground to GOD Almighty.
       
    7. Jesus was tempted by satan for 40 days and 40 nights, while GOD Almighty "can not be tempted!".
         
    8. Jesus is only the heir of GOD Almighty on planet earth; not on the entire Universe.
         
    9. Answering Trinity section with detailed articles.
        
    10. Word of GOD in the Glorious Quran.  Jesus was created from the Word of Allah Almighty.
        
    11. Do animals go to heaven after judgment day?  Is there a difference between the animals' SELF and the humans' SELF?
         
    12. And on and on and on from quotes of Jesus that prove that he is only a Creation and a Servant of GOD Almighty.

      

    Also Visit:

    The Sahih Muslim Hadiths say that Jesus is GOD Almighty's Word and Spirit - Does this mean that Jesus is Allah Almighty?

    Word of GOD in the Glorious Quran.  Jesus was created from the Word of Allah Almighty.

    Do animals go to heaven after judgment day?  Is there a difference between the animals' SELF and the humans' SELF?

      

    The Almighty Dollar: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]

    The Almighty Dollar & Power were the Ultimate Reason:

    "Everyone who owned land or houses would sell them and bring the money to the apostles"  (The Bible, Acts 4:34-35)

  • Paul could lift mountains, and Jesus' disciples raising people from the dead.
      
  • The Bible's metaphoric resurrections.
  •   

    The infestation of the Pauls:

      
    Paul was a rodent
    from an infestation of rodents. 
    The plague of tens (10s) of false messiahs and prophets at the time is thoroughly proven [1] [2] [3] [4] [5].  Like the saying goes:

  • "You are a product of your environment"
  •   

    Paul was certainly a product of the plenty of false liars that were roaming around:

  • Shortly after Jesus, 10s of false messiahs and prophets emerged.
      
  • Paul thoroughly exposed as a liar and charlatan.  Exposed from his own books.
      
  • Paul's perfect, sinless and infallible pedophiles and thieves (1 Corinthians 2:15).
      
  • Visit: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5].
      
  • Paul could lift mountains, and Jesus' disciples raising people from the dead.
      
  • The Bible's metaphoric resurrections.
  •   

      

      

      

    Back to Answering Trinity section.

    The Sahih Muslim Hadiths say that Jesus is GOD Almighty's Word and Spirit - Does this mean that Jesus is Allah Almighty?

    Do animals go to heaven after judgment day?  Is there a difference between the animals' SELF and the humans' SELF?

    Dhul Qarnayn's story.  Sunrise and sunset.  Also Why حمئة and not حاميةٍ.  Dhil Qarnayn's journey is detailed with scientific and geographical maps that are more 1000 years old.

  • The sunsetless North Pole Miracle in the Glorious Quran [1].
  • Sunrise and sunset in the Hadiths.
  • The iron gates of Dhul Qarnayn were found.
  • The overwhelming Scientific and Numerical Miracles in the Glorious Quran.
  • The North and South Poles, and Prayer and Fasting Times.
  •   

    Also Visit:

    John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God was with authority (same Greek word for satan's rule [2] [3])."

    Is Jesus the GOD-Man?


    Dr. Edward Dalcour

    VS


    Osama Abdallah

    Also visit:

    Is Jesus Allah Almighty for creating things in the Noble Quran?  And is he better than Prophet Muhammad for being a creator?  And is there a contradiction in the Noble Quran regarding idol gods not being able to create and Jesus Christ?  See the Books that Allah Almighty gave to certain powerful Beings to enable them to possess certain Powers and to do certain Miracles, including limited Creations.

      

    Other important links: [1] [2] [3]

    Also:
    Jesus had no Divine Will according to the New Testament. How could he be our Creator?
    Jesus said he had no Divine Will.  Jesus had to seek permission from GOD before performing any Miracle.

      

    Does Muhammad exist in the Bible?


    Anthony Rogers

    VS


    Osama Abdallah

    Also visit: Prophet Muhammad was mentioned in the previous Scriptures.  Also, his Prophetic Name, AHMED or AHMAD, was both mentioned in the Glorious Quran and the DEAD SEA SCROLLS.  Yes, his name was recently found in the DEAD SEA SCROLLS as the coming Servant.  See the image for yourself.

      

    Is the Bible the True Word of GOD Almighty?


    Louis Lionheart

    VS


    Osama Abdallah

    What parts of the Bible and Hadiths do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, and Why? [1] [2]

    Note to Muslims:

    As Muslims, we must be very careful when we comment on the previous Scriptures, because there is always a possibility that there might be Divine Revelations parts in the verses that we might be objecting to.  I know that the many of the disbelievers constantly insult and mock Islam all the time, and even lie on their own Scriptures with their "End of Times Prophecies" lies, -where they hijacked even the Bible with their bigotry, hate and lies, - but still dear brothers and sisters in Islam, we must always be very careful when we deal with previous Scriptures, because as Muslims we do believe that they do contain remnants of Divine Revelations in them.  May Allah Almighty forgive me, and forgive all sincere Muslims, for any and all mistakes and errors that we may have fell into.  Ameen.

    The Gospel Christ:

    So, what was the Gospel of Jesus Christ then, i.e., the Injil of Jesus Christ?  Even among Christians, this remains a mystery.  But the Didache; a Gospel which existed even before the current Bible-Gospels (or canonized Gospels), contains a great deal of teachings of Jesus Christ.  The following points are important to always keep in mind: (1)- No single Scripture, the Didache or any other Scripture, is 100% pure and accurate.  There are always forgeries and alterations.  This is the same with every single book and gospel. (2)- The Original Teachings of Christ exist in Scriptures that are in the Bible and outside the Bible.

    For ample proofs, watch the debate-video above.

    Prophet Muhammad thoroughly prophesied in the Bible & Old Scriptures.

    See also:  The Islamic Prophecies section.

      

      

    Zionist Israel will rule the earth with Mighty Evil!  (Islamic Prophecy)

    The Glorious Quran declared 1,400 years ago that the Israeli Zionist machine will rule the entire earth with mighty evil and power.  They will reach "Mighty Heights" علوا كبيرا  of evil power and might on earth.  See Noble Verses 17:4-8:

  • http://www.answering-christianity.com/nuclear_doom_prophecy.htm

  • Also, Israel will be annihilated by people of non-Muslims and Muslims according to the Glorious Quran's Prophecy.
      

  • What does the Glorious Quran say about the Jews' mighty success and dominance in wealth, science, media and politics?  "a rope from Allah and a rope from people" extended to them to enable the reaching of the Mighty Heights.
      

  • The Jews' financial domination and the Stock Market  (control of the earth's wealth) are STUNNINGLY prophesied in the Glorious Quran!

  • http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1515.msg5943.html#msg5943     (backup)

  • http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1515.msg5950.html#msg5950     (backup)

  • http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac3.htm#prophecies

  • http://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm

  •   

    Also, Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, made a stunning prophecy about the one-eyed anti-Christ who will rule the infidels and the world:

    Narrated Ibn Umar: "Once Allah's Apostle stood amongst the people, glorified and praised Allah as He deserved and then mentioned the Dajjal (anti-Christ) saying, "l warn you against him (i.e. the Dajjal) and there was no prophet but warned his nation against him. No doubt, Noah warned his nation against him but I tell you about him something of which no prophet told his nation before me. You should know that he is one-eyed, and Allah is not one-eyed."  (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 553)"

    Prophet Muhammad had many visions about the dajjal, and gave many signs about him.  Some of the things the Prophet said about the dajjal were literal, and some were vision-metaphors.  The most prominent one is that he will be one-eyed.  This is both literal and metaphoric.  It is literal today because the zionist anti-Christ system is indeed represented by the ONE-EYE symbol as seen in the following images.  The metaphors here are Allah Almighty not being ONE-EYED, because nothing can describe Allah Almighty.  There is "none like unto Him" (Quran, 112:4).  In other words also, the Prophet warned that this ONE-EYED SATANIC system will be a worshiped deity.  And that false deity is not Allah Almighty.  For ample more details and proofs, please visit link below.

    Was the Islamic ONE-EYE Prophecy foretold before Islam in the Bible's Zechariah 11:17?  I demonstrated using ample Biblical verses that the ONE-EYED DAJJAL (anti-Christ) was never prophesied in the Bible to be ONE-EYED, nor was this Sign ever given in the Bible to any being.

  • I also showed how Jesus Christ, from among many other verses, used this "right eye" expression.  So it was never a Sign about the dajjal before Islam.  It was no more than a general language of the Bible.
      
  • The Bible in many verses uses "right hand" and "right eye" expressions for people and for GOD Almighty.
      
  • None of these are Signs to anything.
  • For ample Noble Verses and Hadiths (Sayings of the Prophet), and proofs, please visit:

  • The ONE-EYED Dajjal's Signs and Powers according to Islam.
      

  • Also visit: 9/11 was 100% an Israeli Mossad Operation!

  • Many references of this Hadith (Saying) exist throughout our Islamic Texts.  This is one of the most popular Hadiths and Prophecies of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.  And indeed, we are seeing it come to pass before our very eyes.  Please also visit:

  • The hijacked Bible.
      

  • Listen also to Jeremiah 18:1-10!
      

  • The 666 symbol is actually referring to today's neo-con Christianity and Zionism!  See the clear-cut proofs and images here.
      

  • Also see the sub-section: The Israeli 666 symbol.
      

  • Does the Bible predict the dividing of Israel?  Who are the nations that divided Israel?  And what will be their punishment?
      

  • The ONE-EYED Dajjal's Signs and Powers according to Islam.
      

  • Was the Islamic ONE-EYE Prophecy foretold before Islam in the Bible's Zechariah 11:17?
      

  • Sheikh Hamza Yusuf (Muslim convert Mark Hanson) on some of Islam's STUNNING End of Times Prophecies [1] [2] including ISIS:


      
      

  • The following debate thoroughly demonstrates that ISIS is not Islamic, and that it was made by the zionists to pave the way for the "Another 9/11":



    IS ISIS ISLAMIC?
    Osama Abdallah vs David Wood Debate
    Saturday 12/06/2014

    The Debate PowerPoints contain the written material for my presentation and rebuttals.

      

  • Also visit this website's Youtube Channel at: www.youtube.com/QuranSearchCom.

  • The Gospel Christ:

    So, what was the Gospel of Jesus Christ then, i.e., the Injil of Jesus Christ?  Even among Christians, this remains a mystery.  But the Didache; a Gospel which existed even before the current Bible-Gospels (or canonized Gospels), contains a great deal of teachings of Jesus Christ.  The following points are important to always keep in mind: (1)- No single Scripture, the Didache or any other Scripture, is 100% pure and accurate.  There are always forgeries and alterations.  This is the same with every single book and gospel. (2)- The Original Teachings of Christ exist in Scriptures that are in the Bible and outside the Bible.

    For ample proofs, watch the debate-video above.

      

    See Also:

    The "Son of God" Title in the 1 John 2:22

    Jesus is Yahweh the Son?  See how Christians got this very wrong in the NT, using Jesus' words himself!
    Also, is Islam the anti-Christ system according to 1 John 2:22?

    Anti-Christ | 1john 2:22-23 | 911 was 100% an Israeli Lie | Boston | 666| Dividing Israel

    Also visit: Trinity Crucified!  100s of verses thoroughly destroy the trinity lie.

    Note:  The (*) links below are html backups of the website's blog topic threads, in case the blog and its database are down.

      

    From: www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm:

      

    1 John 2:22-23 are discussed further down in details in this table.

  • God in the OT addresses people as "my son" and describes them as his begotten son.  Why does God use these terms with others in the time of Moses and Jesus and Abraham and other prophets, and now condemns these tittles in the Quran?  Why would God give room to misuse these terms like the Greek and Romans did?

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    Son of GOD definition:

    In the Bible, "the Son" refers to the Messiah, - the Ultimate Messenger to the Jews.  Son in their time meant Servant of GOD.  Allah Almighty also explained it precisely like this in the Glorious Quran: "....servants raised to honour.  (The Noble Quran, 21:26)".  Please visit:

    www.answering-christianity.com/definition_son_of_god.htm

    This is what we will be called in Heaven, and Allah Almighty also does recognize "Son of GOD" title in the Glorious Quran, but Says that they are no more than pious "....servants raised to honour.  (The Noble Quran, 21:26)".  Nothing Divine about them except that they exist with Allah Almighty Eternally in Heaven.  But as far as Divine Authority and Power, all Divine Authority and Power belong to Allah Almighty Alone and none else.  You can visit:
      
    www.answering-christianity.com/definition_son_of_god.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god_in_bible_and_quran_debate.ppt
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_translation.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/debate_templates.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm

    Trinity Crucified!  100s of verses thoroughly destroy the trinity lie.

    And other great figures in the Old Testament were also called:

    1-  GOD (El) of other people.
    2-  Son of GOD.
    3-  Begotten Son of GOD.
    4-  GOD's First Born.
    5-  GOD's Heir and Heirs (for believers).
    6-  GODly name with Yahweh and El attached to the name.
    7-  King of Kings (called by Yahweh Himself in the OT).
    8-  All believers are GODs (Elohim) and Sons of GOD (Beni Elohim).
      

    Is Jesus "God's Son" or "God's Servant (SLAVE)?" [1]

    King James Version
    Acts 3:25 - Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

    Acts 3:26 - Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

    New King James Version
    Acts 3:25 - You are the sons of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, 'And in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed.

    Acts 3:26 - To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning every one of you away from his iniquities.

    "Servant" here is slave.  Jesus was called ABD (SLAVE) in the OT [2], the
    same word used for the Jews' slaves, and all slaves in general, throughout
    the Bible [
    2].  Jesus, the abd of GOD, is also the slave of GOD in the NT.

    In Arabic also it's the same.  My name Osama Abdallah, which means
    Osama slave of Allah (GOD).  Slave is a subject of GOD.  A servant is
    independent and has a free will.  He/she can quit serving.  But a
    slave (ABD) is OWNED.
       

    I elaborated on this point in details at:

    www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/questions.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm#king_of_kings_lie
    www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm

    The Servants are the Prophets of Israel.  But Jesus is "the Son" because he is the Messiah, the highest Jew and highest Jewish Prophet.

      

    Jesus was called ABD (SLAVE) of GOD:

    www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm

      

    John 1:1:

    John 1:1 answered from the Glorious Quran Includes a Scientific Miracle in the Glorious Quran.

    John 1:1
    "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God
    was with authority (same Greek word for satan's rule [1] [2] [3])
    ."

      

    The Word encompasses Jesus:

    From http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2884.msg13839.html#msg13839:

    From brother Shaad:

    The Logos and Jesus are differentiated in Revelation....

    Revelation 20:4 King James Version (KJV)

    4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God...

    Revelation 1:2

    2 who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ


    Jazaka Allah Khayr, dear brother Shaad.  I took the liberty to add the emphasis to your text, akhi.  Indeed, the Word of GOD Almighty ENCOMPASSES Jesus, because he was made/created from it; exactly as Islam declares.

    Trinity is false.  I have added your addition to:

    www.answering-christianity.com/word_of_god.htm

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah

      

    Messiah definition:

    www.answering-christianity.com/definition_of_maseeh_in_quran.htm

      

    The Doubting Thomas:
      
    Doubting Thomas said
    "My Lord and my God" to Jesus.  Yet, all believers were called "God", and Moses was the "God" of the Believers, Aaron and Pharaoh:

  • Moses was called "The God" (Exodus 7:1) of the Believers, Aaron and Pharaoh.  Jesus said he was greater than Moses.  Thomas, the Disciple, called Jesus "My Lord and my God" (John 20:28).  Jesus denied to be GOD Almighty.  All Believers were called "GODS and Sons of GOD" (Psalm 82:6) in the Bible.  "GOD" in the Bible also means master, leader, priest.  Therefore, the doubting Thomas' statement didn't suggest that Jesus was his Creator.  And Jesus being a "God" doesn't mean that he is GOD Almighty.  He is just another mere "God" like the rest of the believing creations and nothing more.
      

  • The Bible also says that Jesus had to be "in according to Melchizedek".  And who is Melchizedek?  According to the Bible, he was the Jews' highest priest who had "no father and no mother", and "no beginning and no end" (Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20).  Jesus had to be similar and inline with him; another proof that Jesus being "God" doesn't mean he is the Creator of the Universe.
      
  • The Bible called Jesus a slave (abd) of GOD throughout the Old Testament!
      
  • Jesus denied knowing when Judgment Day will come, and said I DON'T KNOW, ONLY GOD ALONE KNOWS!
  • For ample more details, visit:

    www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm

  • Also, the Family of Allah أهل الله in Islam, and the Majestic "We" [1] [2] [3]
  • www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=1904.msg7673#msg7673
    www.answering-christianity.com/john20_28.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_had_no_will.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_miracles.htm (non of Jesus' Miracles were unique)
    www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links
    www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm

    Trinity Crucified!  100s of verses thoroughly destroy the trinity lie.

      

    Jesus' Original Name:

    Prophet Jesus' original name was Eesa, as this is also his Islamic name.  Even in Latin, it is Iesu, and in Greek it is Iesus.  There is also a great deal of evidence that Jesus spoke and preached in Arabic.  Not only that, but Greek wasn't even that popular in Palestine.  Islam's claims are very strongly supported.  See proofs below.

      

    Did early Christians preach Prophet Muhammad in Rome?

    Did the early believers preach Prophet Muhammad in Corinth, Antioch, Rome and all other places?  Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him, was the Jews' Messiah and final Prophet.  In both the Glorious Quran and the Dead Sea Scrolls, Ahmed was prophesied to come.  Ahmed in the Quran is Prophet Muhammad's prophetic name.  Also, see below the Dead Sea Scroll image.  The New Testament too predicts the coming of three:

    1.  Elijah.
    2.  The Messiah.
    3.  The Prophet.

    John 1:19-21 and John 7:40-44.  Click on the images to expand:
      
        

  • John the Baptist calls Jesus a liar! (Matthew 11:1-6).

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    So did the early believers preach the coming of Prophet Ahmed or Muhammad?  The answer is quite possible, but Muhammad would've been phase 2 for them and not phase 1.  Jesus was the early believers' immediate Prophet, not Muhammad.  And all of the details that they had were about Jesus, not Muhammad.  It is also important to know that the following seven Roman Emperors have thoroughly burned all of the early believers' writings:

    1.  Nero (54-68)
    2.  Domitian (81-96)
    3.  Marcus Aurelius (161-180)
    4.  Septimius Severus (193-211; up to a point)
    5.  Maximinius I Thrax (235-8; up to a point)
    6.  Trajanus Decius (249-251)
    7.  Valerian (253-260)

    Read all the details with references here.

    What we have today from "gospels" and "New Testament" were written 80 years to 300 years after Jesus' departure from this earth.  So, the current writings that we have are not original writings.  Also, to appease the Roman Empire's 3-headed pagan religion and practices, the pagan 3-headed trinity was invented [1] [2] [3] [4] [5].  Many lies had been fabricated after the original writings were all lost.  The Jews and Christians of Arabia, however, did have writings that predicted the coming of Prophet Muhammad.  These were some of the original texts that survived:


    (Video & text are in this linked section)

      

    Jesus also preached in Arabic:

    See the clear proofs in the following:

  • Proofs that early Christian believers' title was MUSLIMS from the Jews' and Christians sources themselves.  Also, Greek wasn't even the first language in Palestine, nor was it even hardly spoken by the natives there.
      

  • Also, ample proofs that Jesus also spoke and preached in Arabic, and there were many early manuscripts written in Arabic that spoke about the coming of Prophet Muhammad in details.  Arabic is estimated to date back 8000 to 20000 years by non-Muslim researchers, and had always been the first language in the entire lands of the Middle East, North and Central Africa.
      

  • Prophet Muhammad in the Early Christians' writings.
      

  • Prophet Muhammad foretold, by the name, in the previous Scriptures.  We still have texts today and from the Bible itself and outside the Bible that tell about the coming of Prophet Muhammad and Islam as the Servant of GOD Almighty and the New Religion and Covenant of GOD Almighty, respectively.
      

  • Important:
      
    What is the definition of Messiah in the Quran?
    Jesus was created from the Word of GOD and filled with the Holy Spirit, according to Islam.
      

  • In the Bible, Muslims, Salamays, Mushlams, Mushlems, Mushlimana are the Believers' original title [1].  Islam came to restore the original Faith [1].
      

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    Prophet "AHMAD" is found in the Dead Sea Scrolls:
      
      

    (Film in this article)

      
    Prophet Muhammad in the previous Scriptures.  Prophet Muhammad was thoroughly foretold in the Bible, and his prophetic Name, "Ahmed", was also found in the Dead Sea Scrolls, and it was mentioned precisely in the Glorious Quran for the Prophet to be foretold by this very Name, Ahmed [1] [2].

      

    Father and Son Definitions:

    Definition of Key Terms (*) (a discussion between me and a Christian):

    1-  What does "The Father" really mean in the Bible?  How is it defined in Islam? (see point #5 below)  How does the Bible really define it?

    2-  What does "Son of GOD" really mean in the Bible? 

    3-  Jesus had to match Melchizedek in Miracles and Power, according to the New Testament.  See this text-debate (*) between me and a Christian.  Jesus' Miracles and Miraculous Birth and Nature were given to him because he needed to be in according to Melchizedek.  He had to be “in according to Melchizedek” as the Bible specifically says.  See Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20 [2].

      

    Who is Melchizedek?

    According to the Bible, he was the Jews' highest priest who had "no father and no mother", and "no beginning and no end" (Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20) [2].  The Bible literally says that.  Jesus had to be similar and inline with him; another proof that Jesus being "God" doesn't mean he is the Creator of the Universe.

  • Is Jesus Allah Almighty for creating things in the Noble Quran?  And is he better than Prophet Muhammad for being a creator?  And is there a contradiction in the Noble Quran regarding idol gods not being able to create and Jesus Christ?  See the Books that Allah Almighty gave to certain powerful Beings to enable them to possess certain Powers and to do certain Miracles, including limited Creations.
      

  • Also again, see this text-debate (*) between me and a Christian.
      

  • 4-  Does the Bible say that Yahweh created Jesus Yes it does (*)

  • John 1:1
    "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God was with authority
    (same Greek word for satan's rule (*) [2] [3])."
      

  • Detailed discussion about Jesus' Will (*) with ample verses.
      

  • In Islam, there are three "Worlds" or Realms:

  • (a)-  GOD Almighty, who is not seen by anyone or anything, nor is like unto anyone or anything.

    (b)-  The World of Command, which is the invisible world of the Beings that were made by the Word and the Spirit.

    (c)-  The World of Creation, the flush and blood, dust and water physical world and Universes (plural).

    Also visit: Is the Noble Quran a Creator or Creation?

      
      
    "Father" and "Son" in Islam and the Bible:

    Christians often quote the following verses to prove that Islam is the Anti-Christ:

    1 John 2
    22  Who is a liar but he that denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
    23  No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

      

    5-  What does the Glorious Quran say about the “Father” and “Son” titles:

  • The Quran is against the exaggerated and inflated meanings of the words, which ultimately the polytheistic religion of trinity was born out of.
      

  • Allah Almighty Said: "And they say: "(God) Most Gracious has begotten offspring." Glory to Him! they are (but) servants raised to honour (The Noble Quran, 21:26)"
      

    From http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=2141.msg9505#msg9505:

      

    The Family of Allah أهل الله in Islam, and the Majestic "We":
      

    .......

    In regards to your question, there are two legitimate answers for it:
      
    1-  GOD Almighty can and does refer to Himself as WE and I.  So the plural We can and does refer to Allah Almighty Alone.
      
    2-  In Allah Almighty's Realm, there are the People of Allah.  Even our Hadiths call them AHLU ALLAH أهل الله (Family of Allah).

  • Go to www.google.com, and search for إن لله - تعالى - أهلين من الناس، قالوا: يا رسول الله من هم؟ قال: هم أهل القران، أهل الله وخاصته
      
  • The Hadith in Arabic translates as:
      
    "Allah Almighty has AHLEEN (families) أهلين from mankind.  They asked: "O Messenger of Allah, who are they?"  He said: They are the People of the Quran; the Family/People of GOD أهل الله , and they are His Special Ones خاصته."
      
    Note: Every Spoken Word from GOD Almighty is Quran, even before Islam.
      
  • This is what we will be called in Heaven, and Allah Almighty also does recognize "Son of GOD" title in the Glorious Quran, but Says that they are no more than pious "....servants raised to honour.  (The Noble Quran, 21:26)".  Nothing Divine about them except that they exist with Allah Almighty Eternally in Heaven.  But as far as Divine Authority and Power, all Divine Authority and Power belong to Allah Almighty Alone and none else.  You can visit:
      
    www.answering-christianity.com/definition_son_of_god.htm (The definition of "Son of God" in Islam)
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god_in_bible_and_quran_debate.ppt
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_translation.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/debate_templates.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm

    Trinity Crucified!  100s of verses thoroughly destroy the trinity lie.
      
      
    Iblis, who later became satan, used to be from AHLU ALLAH
    أهل الله (Family of Allah) when he was a pious Servant.  But because he and his followers disobeyed GOD Almighty, they were cursed and kicked out of the COMMUNITY OF GOD Almighty:
      
    www.answering-christianity.com/adam.htm
      
    So it is quite possible that Allah Almighty uses the WE to refer to Him and His Servants that HE spoke with directly and Commanded directly.  But even in that case, the WE still also means Allah Almighty Alone (the Majestic We), because Allah Almighty is the
     One and Only Decision Maker, and there is none other besides Him.
      
    I hope this helps, insha'Allah.
      
    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah

      
      

  • So people did call each others “Son” and “Daughter” of “GOD”. But in all reality, they are no more than Servants of GOD raised to honor.
      

  • Here are some Bible facts regarding "FATHER" and "SON": 

  • Allah Almighty is the Believers' only Guardian (المولى): See Noble Verses 8:40, 22:13, 22:78.
      
  • In Arabic we say ولي الأمر , which means "The Legal Guardian".  المولى is derived from the root word ولي  .ولي also means a chosen friend to Allah Almighty.
      
  • FRIENDS = SONS in the Bible and Quran (ولي , وليهما and خليلا).  We further read the following in the Bible:

    Isaiah 41:8 "But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, you descendants of Abraham my friend,

    Chronicles 20:7 Our God, did you not drive out the inhabitants of this land before your people Israel and give it forever to the descendants of Abraham your friend?

    James 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness," and he was called God's friend.
      
  • So being GOD Almighty's "SON" in the Bible is equal to being GOD Almighty's "FRIEND".  Now compare this to the following from the Holy Quran:
      
    [002:257] Allah is the friend (ولي) and patron of those who believe. He brings them out of the depths of darkness into light. While those who do not believe, have the forces of evil as their friends; they lead them out of light, into the very depths of darkness. Such ones shall be the inmates of the fire. They will stay there forever.
      
    [003:122] (And remember) when the two groups among you lost heart (and almost fell out), even though Allah was their Friend and Protector (وليهما)? In Allah (alone), should the believers place their trust!
      
    [004:125] Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith? For God did take Abraham for a friend (خليلا).
      
  • So the Bible's "FATHER" & "SON" for GOD Almighty and the Believers is clearly metaphoric, and it only means that GOD Almighty:
    1-  Is the Protector.
    2-  Is the Friend.
    3-  Is the Guardian.
      
  • Also, BEGET = CHOSE.
      
  • King James Bible Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
      
  • Allah Almighty used اصطفاك اصطفيتك يصطفي اصطفى اصطفينا to mean to Choose a Servant in Noble Verses 27:59, 3:33, 3:42, 7:144, 22:75, 35:32, 38:47, 39:4 in the Glorious Quran.
      
  • So clearly Islam is in harmony with GOD Almighty being our:

    -  Guardian
    -  Friend
    -  Protector
    -  And the One who Chose us.
      
  • And we definitely believe that Jesus is the Messiah.
      
  • One last important point:  Nowhere in the Bible is Jesus ever called "from the Seed of GOD" or "the Seed of GOD".  We do have "Jesus is from the seed of David" (Psalm 132:10-11, Romans 1:3)But never from GOD!
      
  • GOD has no seed according to both the Bible and the Quran.
      
  • Therefore, the claim that Islam is the Anti-Christ is false.
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    So, is Islam the anti-Christ system according to 1john 2:22 No it isn't.  Here are some Quran and Bible facts regarding "FATHER" and "SON" in more details:

    (a)-  Allah Almighty is the Believers' only Guardian (المولى):

  • See Noble Verses 8:40, 22:13, 22:78.  In Arabic we say ولي الأمر , which means "The Legal Guardian".  المولى is derived from the root word ولي  .ولي also means a chosen friend to Allah Almighty, as in the following point.   

  • (b)-  FRIENDS = SONS in the Bible and Quran (ولي , وليهما and خليلا):

    We further read the following in the Bible:

    Isaiah 41:8
    "But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, you descendants of Abraham my friend,

    Chronicles 20:7
    Our God, did you not drive out the inhabitants of this land before your people Israel and give it forever to the descendants of Abraham your friend?

    James 2:23
    And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness," and he was called God's friend.

    So being GOD Almighty's "SON" in the Bible is equal to being GOD Almighty's "FRIEND".  Now compare this to the following from the Holy Quran:

    [002:257] Allah is the friend (ولي) and patron of those who believe. He brings them out of the depths of darkness into light. While those who do not believe, have the forces of evil as their friends; they lead them out of light, into the very depths of darkness. Such ones shall be the inmates of the fire. They will stay there forever.

    [003:122] (And remember) when the two groups among you lost heart (and almost fell out), even though Allah was their Friend and Protector (وليهما)? In Allah (alone), should the believers place their trust!

    [004:125] Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith? For God did take Abraham for a friend (خليلا).

    So the Bible's "FATHER" & "SON" for GOD Almighty and the Believers is clearly metaphoric, and it only means that GOD Almighty:

    1-  Is the Protector.
    2-  Is the Friend.
    3-  Is the Guardian.

    Please visit the following link to further see what Words the Glorious Quran uses for these words and definitions:

    http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1368.msg5203.html#msg5203     (backup)

      
    (c)-  BEGET = CHOSE:

    Regarding the following verse, and many others like it:

    King James Bible Psalm 2:7
    I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

    Let us look at Noble Verses 27:59, 3:33, 3:42, 7:144, 22:75, 35:32, 38:47, 39:4 from the Glorious Quran:

    [027:059] Say: Praise be to God, and Peace on his servants whom He has chosen اصطفى (for his Message). (Who) is better?- God or the false gods they associate (with Him)?

    ‏27:59 قل الحمد لله وسلام على عباده الذين اصطفى ءالله خير اما يشركون

    [003:033] God did choose اصطفى Adam and Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of 'Imran above all people,-

    ‏3:33 ان الله اصطفى ادم ونوحا وال ابراهيم وال عمران على العالمين

    [003:042] Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! God hath chosen thee اصطفاك and purified thee- chosen thee above the women of all nations.

    ‏3:42 واذ قالت الملائكة يامريم ان الله اصطفاك وطهرك واصطفاك على نساء العالمين

    [007:144] (God) said: "O Moses! I have chosen thee اصطفيتك above (other) men, by the mission I (have given thee) and the words I (have spoken to thee): take then the (revelation) which I give thee, and be of those who give thanks."

    ‏7:144 قال ياموسى اني اصطفيتك على الناس برسالاتي وبكلامي فخذ ما اتيتك وكن من الشاكرين

    [022:075] God chooses يصطفي messengers from angels and from men for God is He Who hears and sees (all things).

    ‏22:75 الله يصطفي من الملائكة رسلا ومن الناس ان الله سميع بصير

    [035:032] Then We have given the Book for inheritance to such of Our Servants as We have chosen اصطفينا: but there are among them some who wrong their own souls; some who follow a middle course; and some who are, by God's leave, foremost in good deeds; that is the highest Grace.

    ‏35:32 ثم اورثنا الكتاب الذين اصطفينا من عبادنا فمنهم ظالم لنفسه ومنهم مقتصد ومنهم سابق بالخيرات باذن الله ذلك هو الفضل الكبير

    [038:047] They were, in Our sight, truly, of the company of the Elect المصطفين and the Good.

    ‏38:47 وانهم عندنا لمن المصطفين الاخيار

    [039:004] Had God wished to take to Himself an (actual) son, He could have chosen لاصطفى whom He pleased out of those whom He doth create: but Glory be to Him! (He is above such things.) He is God, the One, the Irresistible.

    ‏39:4 لو اراد الله ان يتخذ ولدا لاصطفى مما يخلق مايشاء سبحانه هو الله الواحد القهار

    Furthermore, when Jesus was asked about when the Hour will come, he replied by saying that only GOD Almighty Knows, and that no one knows, and that Jesus himself also didn't know.  Please visit:

    http://www.answering-christianity.com/questions.htm
    http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links

    Trinity Crucified!  100s of verses thoroughly destroy the trinity lie.

      

    Jesus spelled it out clearly that he knew NOT.  And as to calling GOD Almighty "Father", and that Islam denies that GOD Almighty is an ACTUAL FATHER to anyone, in Islam GOD Almighty is called:

    1-  Rab - Lord, Father (you are the Rab of your home for being the husband and the father).

    2-  Wali - Guardian.

    In the old Aramaic and Hebrew, GOD Almighty was called what-is-equivalent-to-Islam our Rab and Wali.  But that doesn't make GOD Almighty our actual Father.  This is exactly as Judaism metaphors such as idolatry is equivalent to spiritual adultery.  No Jew is actually married to GOD Almighty to actually commit a personal marriage-adultery against GOD Almighty!  Yet, the Jews use metaphors like these.  Islam came to straighten all of this out and to set the record straight that GOD Almighty has no son and no daughter.  Otherwise, why would GOD Almighty torture us to Hell if we were His perfect sons and daughters??  No imperfect being could be an actual son of GOD Almighty (and no being is the son or daughter of GOD Almighty, period!):

    [005:018] (Both) the Jews and the Christians say: "We are sons of God, and his beloved." Say: "Why then doth He punish you for your sins? Nay, ye are but men,- of the men he hath created: He forgiveth whom He pleaseth, and He punisheth whom He pleaseth: and to God belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between: and unto Him is the final goal (of all)"

    Again, please visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1368.msg5203.html#msg5203     (backup).

      

    The Logical Fallacy and Corruption of 1 John 2:22:

    (d)-  Let's thoroughly look at the logical fallacy of this verse and its corruption:

    1-  " Who is the liar"??  Or should the text say who is the one who disbelieves?

  • The text clearly suggests that the book was written by a mere individual, whose emotions caused him to make a logical fallacy in the text, hence he is not a genuine Messenger of GOD.
     

  • Furthermore, we don't see this statement anywhere else throughout the Bible!  For such a serious statement to be truly from GOD Almighty, we would expect it to at the very least exist in any or all of the four gospels.  But it exists in none, and not even in Paul's writings either.  It only exists once in this late epistle.
     

  • Furthermore, the Bible’s commentary regarding 1 John book say:

    "1 John does not tell us who its author is.  The earliest identification of him comes from the church fathers..."  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1904)

    "The letter is difficult to date with precision...."  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1905)

    For book bibliography, visit: www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm

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    2-  Also keep in mind that the 1 John book contains forgeries.  For example:

  • 1 John 5:7  "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."  This verse was proven to be a forgery, and was removed from all of the modern Bible translations.

    Please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/1john5_7.htm

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    6-  Did you know that Elohim is Allah [1, *] [2] [3].  The "im" in Hebrew is a majestic plural for GOD Almighty.  The root Word is "Eloh".  And the more original Jews such as Yemenites and others say Alohim or Alah-im.  And when you yourself pronounce it, you do naturally pronounce it with a double "l": Allah.  Jews do call Him: Allah-im.  Aramaic-speaking people also call GOD Almighty Allah.  See the following videos for Biblical references and proofs.  Also, pre-Islamic Biblical archeological findings have GOD Almighty as "Allah".  So the Original Holy Name for GOD Almighty is not Eloh.  It is Allah!  Eloh is a Hebrew dialect, which not all Hebrew speakers use anyway.  Allah had always been the Original and Universal GOD Almighty even before birth of Judaism, and the existence Hebrew.  And Hebrew is a developed language from Phoenician.  See the following links:

               
           (Click to play videos)

           http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_alphabet
           http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Hebrew

      

    The Almighty Dollar: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]

    The Almighty Dollar & Power were the Ultimate Reason:

    "Everyone who owned land or houses would sell them and bring the money to the apostles"  (The Bible, Acts 4:34-35)

  • Paul could lift mountains, and Jesus' disciples raising people from the dead.
      
  • The Bible's metaphoric resurrections.
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    The infestation of the Pauls:

      
    Paul was a rodent
    from an infestation of rodents. 
    The plague of tens (10s) of false messiahs and prophets at the time is thoroughly proven [1] [2] [3] [4] [5].  Like the saying goes:

  • "You are a product of your environment"
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    Paul was certainly a product of the plenty of false liars that were roaming around:

  • Shortly after Jesus, 10s of false messiahs and prophets emerged.
      
  • Paul thoroughly exposed as a liar and charlatan.  Exposed from his own books.
      
  • Paul's perfect, sinless and infallible pedophiles and thieves (1 Corinthians 2:15).
      
  • Visit: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5].
      
  • Paul could lift mountains, and Jesus' disciples raising people from the dead.
      
  • The Bible's metaphoric resurrections.
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