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Thomas is misunderstood in verse John 20:28:
From Sheikh Ahmed Deedat's work; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:
It is often claimed that since Thomas referred to Jesus as "My
God, my Lord (John 20:28),"
that Jesus was God. An ignorance of the context of the verse and of Christian doctrine
prompts this claim. The context of the verse talks about an unbelieving Thomas being
surprised when Jesus offers him evidence.
The exclamation, "My God," on his part was just astonishment. We use such exclamations everyday while talking to people. This doesn't mean that the person we are talking to is God. For example, I see John cutting his wrist with a Rambo knife. I say: "My God, John what are you doing?" Do I mean that John is God? Of course not. Similar is the use of the expression by Thomas. If you go into Jewish or Muslim societies even today, you'll hear people exclaim "My God, my Lord," at every situation which surprises them or causes them anguish or is astonishing. In the verse above Thomas says: "My God, my Lord." He was not claiming that Jesus was his (1) God and (2) Lord. If he did then the church and the disciples should have stamped him as a heretic right there and then. Because claiming that Jesus is Lord and God is a violation of Christian doctrine, which asserts that there is One God, the Father and One Lord, Jesus. Jesus can't be God and Lord. "...yet for us there is but one God, the Father...and one Lord, Jesus Christ ...(I Corinthians 8:6)". Believing the above (i.e Jesus is Lord and God) would leave a person with unorthodox doctrine branded by the church as Sabellianism, Patripassianism, Monarchianism.
Further from Muslim-SA:
184.108.40.206 John 20:28
"Then saith he (Jesus) to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands;
and reach hither thy hand, and thrust [it] into my side: and be not faithless, but
believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."
Once again, when I was first quoted this verse, I immediately thought that I had at
long last found my elusive goal. Finally, I had found a verse that explicitly claims that
Jesus "is" God. However, it was not long after that, upon further research into
Christian theological literature, I once again would come to find that the true meaning of
this verse was quite different than what a casual glance might have me believe.
This verse is at best an example of an "implicit" affirmation of a
"Duality." This is because this verse appears to imply that Thomas thought that
Jesus was God Almighty. The words are those of Thomas and not Jesus. However, there are a
number of problems with interpreting this verse to mean that Jesus is God.
Firstly, the phrase "Thomas answered" is somewhat misleading since nowhere
before this verses was Thomas asked a question. Thomas' words could more appropriately be
referred to as an "outburst" or an "exclamation." This is indeed why
most translations of the Bible (excluding the King James Version) follow this exclamation
with an "exclamation mark" as follows: "And Thomas answered and
said unto him, My Lord and my God !"
Christian scholars such as Theodore of Mopsuestia (c.350-428), the Bishop of
Mopsuestia, interpreted this verse to not be directed at Jesus but at God "the
Father." Thus, it is similar in meaning to our modern exclamations of surprise
"My God!" or "My Lord!." In other words, this was an outburst designed
to display surprise and disbelief rather than an affirmation that Jesus was in fact God
Secondly, the word translated in this verse as "God" is indeed the Greek
"Ho theos" (The God), and not "theos" (divine). However, when
studying the history of this verse in the ancient Biblical manuscripts from which our
modern Bibles have been compiled we find an interesting fact, specifically, that the
ancient Biblical manuscripts themselves are not in agreement as to the correct form of
this word. For example, the codex Bezae (or codex D) is a fifth century manuscript
containing Greek and Latin texts of the Gospels and Acts, which was discovered in the 16th
century by Theodore Beza in a monastery in Lyon. The predecessor of the codex Bezae and
other church manuscripts do not contain the article "Ho" ("THE") in
their text (The Orthodox Corruption of Scripture, Bart D. Ehrman, p. 266).
What this means
is that this verse in it's original form, if it is to be understood to be addressing Jesus
(pbuh) himself, only addresses him as "divine" and not as the "Almighty
God." Thus, it is similar in meaning to the meaning conveyed when prophet Moses is
described as being a "god" in Exodus 7:1 (or when all Jews are described as
being "gods" in Psalms 82:6, or when the devil is described as god in 2
Corinthians 4:4), effectively reducing the exclamation of Thomas, if it were indeed
directed to Jesus, to "My lord the divine!," or "my divine lord!"
For a Muslim the matter is simple. The Qur'an very explicitly states that Jesus was not
forsaken by God to the Jews to be crucified, rather "it was made to appear so to
them." So the claim that Jesus came to Thomas and asked him to witness the imprint of
the nail in his hand and the spear in his side is, for a Muslim, clear evidence that this
whole episode was a fabrication and later insertion. However, since a Muslim's claim in
this regard would not be regarded as authoritative unbiased proof in this matter,
therefore, it is necessary to use a little logic to arrive at the truth.
Since we now have on our hands a dispute between the ancient Biblical manuscripts
themselves as to what Thomas actually said, therefore, let me pose this very simple
request. Please get out a pencil and a piece of paper, stop reading this book for the
moment, and in your own words, please write down in about twenty words, very concisely but
as directly as possible, what is the foremost obvious conclusion you are able to draw from
Thomas' outburst. Study your words carefully and write them down as if your very life and
the salvation of thousands of generations depend on what you are about to say. Make it
clear and to the point. Have you finished?. Okay, let us continue.
Let us now compare what you have just written with what the actual author of this
Gospel had written when faced with the same requirements I have just presented you with.
If we were to continue reading from this same Gospel of John, we will find that
immediately following this discourse between Jesus and Thomas depicted by the author of
"John," the same author of "John" goes on to write:
"And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name."
If the author of John had recognized Thomas' words to be a testimony that "Jesus
is God" and if the author interpreted Jesus' silence to be his approval of this
claimed testimony, then John would have written "that ye might believe that Jesus is
the Almighty God" and not "that ye might believe that Jesus is the
Christ..." (For an explanation of the terms "son of God" and
"Christ" please read sections 220.127.116.11, and 18.104.22.168 which are coming up soon).
To make this matter clearer let us first remember that Christian scholars tell us that
the disciples did not fully comprehend who Jesus "was" until after the
resurrection. They admit that the Trinity was not "fully" incorporated into
Christianity until three hundred years after the departure of Jesus (see rest of chapter
one). However, they then point to this verse in order to exhibit to us how in the end the
"true" nature of Jesus was made clear to the apostles. Now, we need to ask, what
is the single most important piece of information we have just learned from Thomas'
outburst? What is the single most glaring, obvious, and outstanding, piece of information
we have learned from this statement? Any random missionary would tell us that it is the
fact that "Jesus is God!" In other words, the disciples have just spent many
years with Jesus learning from him, following him, obeying him, and preaching his message.
Suddenly he is allegedly taken away, crucified, buried, and then he is resurrected. Now
Thomas sees him and according to the testimony of "John," he realizes that Jesus
is "God the Father" who has come down to earth to walk among us. So what would
we logically expect to be the foremost topic of most urgent and critical concern in the
eyes of the author of "John"? Obviously, it should be the instillation within us
of the "fact" that "Jesus is the 'incarnation' of God Almighty!" Does
this not stand to reason? Why then does the author now casually disregard such an earth
shattering observation and choose to simply return to describing Jesus with the benign
terms of "son of God" and "Messiah/Christ"(see sections 22.214.171.124, and
126.96.36.199)? Did the author of this book not make the connection which we have just made? Did
the author of "John" have less understanding of what he was writing than us?
Think about it.
Furthermore, some Christian scholars believe that the whole episode of "doubting Thomas" is a later "insertion." "The Five Gospels" mark this passage as being a complete fabrication and not the word of Jesus (pbuh).
An addition from me, Osama Abdallah:
The Doubting Thomas:
Doubting Thomas said "My Lord and my God" to Jesus. Yet, all believers were called "God", and Moses was the "God" of the Believers, Aaron and Pharaoh:
For ample more details, visit:
www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_miracles.htm (non of Jesus' Miracles were unique)
There are a number of other verses which could be brought up in this comparison,
however, the ones just quoted are the strongest and most often quoted verses. A number of
other verses that are brought up in such discussions shall be dealt with in chapter 1.2.3
since they are more directly applicable to the concept of the divinity of Jesus or the
claim that he is the physical/begotten son of God than they are to the discussion of the
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The "Son of God" Title in the 1 John 2:22
Jesus is Yahweh the Son? See how Christians got this very wrong in the NT,
using Jesus' words himself!
Also, is Islam the anti-Christ system according to 1 John 2:22?
Anti-Christ | 1john 2:22-23 | 911 was 100% an Israeli Lie | Boston | 666| Dividing Israel
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1 John 2:22-23 are discussed further down in details in this table.
The Doubting Thomas:
For ample more details, visit:
Father and Son Definitions:
1- What does "The Father" really mean in the Bible? How is it defined in Islam? (see point #5 below) How does the Bible really define it?
2- What does "Son of GOD" really mean in the Bible?
3- Jesus had to match Melchizedek in Miracles and Power, according to the New Testament. See this text-debate (*) between me and a Christian. Jesus' Miracles and Miraculous Birth and Nature were given to him because he needed to be in according to Melchizedek. He had to be “in according to Melchizedek” as the Bible specifically says. See Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20 .
Who is Melchizedek?
According to the Bible, he was the Jews' highest priest who had "no father and no mother", and "no beginning and no end" (Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20) . The Bible literally says that. Jesus had to be similar and inline with him; another proof that Jesus being "God" doesn't mean he is the Creator of the Universe.
(a)- GOD Almighty, who is not seen by anyone or anything, nor is like unto anyone or anything.
(b)- The World of Command, which is the invisible world of the Beings that were made by the Word and the Spirit.
(c)- The World of Creation, the flush and blood, dust and water physical world and Universes (plural).
Also visit: Is the Noble Quran a Creator or Creation?
Christians often quote the following verses to prove that Islam is the Anti-Christ:
1 John 2
5- What does the Glorious Quran say about the “Father” and “Son” titles:
So, is Islam the anti-Christ system according to 1john 2:22? No it isn't. Here are some Quran and Bible facts regarding "FATHER" and "SON" in more details:
(a)- Allah Almighty is the Believers' only Guardian (المولى):
(b)- FRIENDS = SONS in the Bible and Quran (ولي , وليهما and خليلا):
We further read the following in the Bible:
So being GOD Almighty's "SON" in the Bible is equal to being GOD Almighty's "FRIEND". Now compare this to the following from the Holy Quran:
[002:257] Allah is the friend (ولي) and patron of those who believe. He brings them out of the depths of darkness into light. While those who do not believe, have the forces of evil as their friends; they lead them out of light, into the very depths of darkness. Such ones shall be the inmates of the fire. They will stay there forever.
[003:122] (And remember) when the two groups among you lost heart (and almost fell out), even though Allah was their Friend and Protector (وليهما)? In Allah (alone), should the believers place their trust!
[004:125] Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith? For God did take Abraham for a friend (خليلا).
So the Bible's "FATHER" & "SON" for GOD Almighty and the Believers is clearly metaphoric, and it only means that GOD Almighty:
Is the Protector.
Please visit the following link to further see what Words the Glorious Quran uses for these words and definitions:
Regarding the following verse, and many others like it:
Let us look at Noble Verses 27:59, 3:33, 3:42, 7:144, 22:75, 35:32, 38:47, 39:4 from the Glorious Quran:
[027:059] Say: Praise be to God, and Peace on his servants whom He has chosen اصطفى (for his Message). (Who) is better?- God or the false gods they associate (with Him)?
27:59 قل الحمد لله وسلام على عباده الذين اصطفى ءالله خير اما يشركون
[003:033] God did choose اصطفى Adam and Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of 'Imran above all people,-
3:33 ان الله اصطفى ادم ونوحا وال ابراهيم وال عمران على العالمين
[003:042] Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! God hath chosen thee اصطفاك and purified thee- chosen thee above the women of all nations.
3:42 واذ قالت الملائكة يامريم ان الله اصطفاك وطهرك واصطفاك على نساء العالمين
Moses! I have chosen thee
اصطفيتك above (other) men, by the mission I
(have given thee) and the words I (have spoken to thee): take then
the (revelation) which I give thee, and be of those who give
[022:075] God chooses يصطفي messengers from angels and from men for God is He Who hears and sees (all things).
22:75 الله يصطفي من الملائكة رسلا ومن الناس ان الله سميع بصير
[035:032] Then We have given the Book for inheritance to such of Our Servants as We have chosen اصطفينا: but there are among them some who wrong their own souls; some who follow a middle course; and some who are, by God's leave, foremost in good deeds; that is the highest Grace.
35:32 ثم اورثنا الكتاب الذين اصطفينا من عبادنا فمنهم ظالم لنفسه ومنهم مقتصد ومنهم سابق بالخيرات باذن الله ذلك هو الفضل الكبير
[038:047] They were, in Our sight, truly, of the company of the Elect المصطفين and the Good.
38:47 وانهم عندنا لمن المصطفين الاخيار
[039:004] Had God wished to take to Himself an (actual) son, He could have chosen لاصطفى whom He pleased out of those whom He doth create: but Glory be to Him! (He is above such things.) He is God, the One, the Irresistible.
39:4 لو اراد الله ان يتخذ ولدا لاصطفى مما يخلق مايشاء سبحانه هو الله الواحد القهار
Furthermore, when Jesus was asked about when the Hour will come, he replied by saying that only GOD Almighty Knows, and that no one knows, and that Jesus himself also didn't know. Please visit:
Jesus spelled it out clearly that he knew NOT. And as to calling GOD Almighty "Father", and that Islam denies that GOD Almighty is an ACTUAL FATHER to anyone, in Islam GOD Almighty is called:
1- Rab - Lord, Father (you are the Rab of your home for being the husband and the father).
2- Wali - Guardian.
In the old Aramaic and Hebrew, GOD Almighty was called what-is-equivalent-to-Islam our Rab and Wali. But that doesn't make GOD Almighty our actual Father. This is exactly as Judaism metaphors such as idolatry is equivalent to spiritual adultery. No Jew is actually married to GOD Almighty to actually commit a personal marriage-adultery against GOD Almighty! Yet, the Jews use metaphors like these. Islam came to straighten all of this out and to set the record straight that GOD Almighty has no son and no daughter. Otherwise, why would GOD Almighty torture us to Hell if we were His perfect sons and daughters?? No imperfect being could be an actual son of GOD Almighty (and no being is the son or daughter of GOD Almighty, period!):
[005:018] (Both) the Jews and the Christians say: "We are sons of God, and his beloved." Say: "Why then doth He punish you for your sins? Nay, ye are but men,- of the men he hath created: He forgiveth whom He pleaseth, and He punisheth whom He pleaseth: and to God belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between: and unto Him is the final goal (of all)"
Again, please visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1368.msg5203.html#msg5203 (backup).
The Logical Fallacy and Corruption of 1 John 2:22:
(d)- Let's thoroughly look at the logical fallacy of this verse and its corruption:
1- " Who is the liar"?? Or should the text say who is the one who disbelieves?
6- Did you know that Elohim is Allah [1, *]  . The "im" in Hebrew is a majestic plural for GOD Almighty. The root Word is "Eloh". And the more original Jews such as Yemenites and others say Alohim or Alah-im. And when you yourself pronounce it, you do naturally pronounce it with a double "l": Allah. Jews do call Him: Allah-im. Aramaic-speaking people also call GOD Almighty Allah. See the following videos for Biblical references and proofs. Also, pre-Islamic Biblical archeological findings have GOD Almighty as "Allah". So the Original Holy Name for GOD Almighty is not Eloh. It is Allah! Eloh is a Hebrew dialect, which not all Hebrew speakers use anyway. Allah had always been the Original and Universal GOD Almighty even before birth of Judaism, and the existence Hebrew. And Hebrew is a developed language from Phoenician. See the following links:
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