God in the OT addresses people as my son and describes them as his begotten son. Why does God use these terms with others in the time of Moses and Jesus And Abraham and other prophets, and now condemns these tittles in the Quran? Why would God give room to misuse these terms like the Greek and Romans did?
The above question was asked on my blog at: http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=1741.msg6898#msg6898. The following is my answer:
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Son of GOD
definition: In the Bible, "the Son" refers to the Messiah, - the Ultimate Messenger to the Jews. Son in their time meant Servant of GOD. Allah Almighty also explained it precisely like this in the Glorious Quran: "....servants raised to honour. (The Noble Quran, 21:26)". Please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/definition_son_of_god.htm
This is what we will be called in
Heaven, and Allah Almighty also does recognize
"Son of GOD" title in the Glorious Quran, but
Says that they are no more than pious "....servants
raised to honour.
(The Noble Quran, 21:26)".
Nothing Divine about them except that they exist
with Allah Almighty Eternally in Heaven. But as
far as Divine Authority and Power, all Divine
Authority and Power belong to Allah Almighty
Alone and none else. You can visit: Trinity Crucified! 100s of verses thoroughly destroy the trinity lie. And other great figures in the Old Testament were also called: 1-
GOD (El) of other people. Is Jesus "God's Son" or "God's Servant (SLAVE)?" [1]
"Servant" here is slave. Jesus was called
ABD (SLAVE) in the OT [2],
the
In Arabic also it's the
same. My name Osama
Abdallah,
which means I elaborated on this point in details at:
www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm The Servants are the Prophets of Israel. But Jesus is "the Son" because he is the Messiah, the highest Jew and highest Jewish Prophet.
Jesus was called ABD (SLAVE) of GOD: www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm
John 1:1: John 1:1 answered from the Glorious Quran. Includes a Scientific Miracle in the Glorious Quran.
John 1:1
The Word encompasses Jesus:
Messiah definition: www.answering-christianity.com/definition_of_maseeh_in_quran.htm |
See Also:
The "Son of God" Title in the 1 John 2:22
Jesus is Yahweh the Son? See how Christians got this very wrong in the NT,
using Jesus' words himself!
Also, is Islam the anti-Christ system according to 1 John 2:22?
Anti-Christ | 1john 2:22-23 | 911 was 100% an Israeli Lie | Boston | 666| Dividing Israel
Also visit: Trinity Crucified! 100s of verses thoroughly destroy the trinity lie. Note: The (*) links below are html backups of the website's blog topic threads, in case the blog and its database are down.
From: www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm:
1 John 2:22-23 are discussed further down in details in this table.
The Doubting Thomas: For ample more details, visit:
www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=1904.msg7673#msg7673 Trinity Crucified! 100s of verses thoroughly destroy the trinity lie.
Father and Son Definitions: Definition of Key Terms (*) (a discussion between me and a Christian): 1- What does "The Father" really mean in the Bible? How is it defined in Islam? (see point #5 below) How does the Bible really define it? 2- What does "Son of GOD" really mean in the Bible? 3- Jesus had to match Melchizedek in Miracles and Power, according to the New Testament. See this text-debate (*) between me and a Christian. Jesus' Miracles and Miraculous Birth and Nature were given to him because he needed to be in according to Melchizedek. He had to be “in according to Melchizedek” as the Bible specifically says. See Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20 [2].
Who is Melchizedek? According to the Bible, he was the Jews' highest priest who had "no father and no mother", and "no beginning and no end" (Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20) [2]. The Bible literally says that. Jesus had to be similar and inline with him; another proof that Jesus being "God" doesn't mean he is the Creator of the Universe.
Is Jesus Allah Almighty for creating
things in the Noble Quran?
And is he better than Prophet
Muhammad for being a creator?
And is there a contradiction in the
Noble Quran regarding idol gods not
being able to create and Jesus
Christ?
See the Books that Allah Almighty
gave to certain powerful Beings to
enable them to possess certain
Powers and to do certain Miracles,
including limited Creations. Also again,
see this
text-debate (*)
between me and a Christian. 4- Does the Bible say that Yahweh created Jesus? Yes it does (*).
John 1:1
Detailed discussion
about Jesus' Will
(*)
with ample verses. In Islam, there are three "Worlds" or Realms: (a)- GOD Almighty, who is not seen by anyone or anything, nor is like unto anyone or anything. (b)- The World of Command, which is the invisible world of the Beings that were made by the Word and the Spirit. (c)- The World of Creation, the flush and blood, dust and water physical world and Universes (plural). Also visit: Is the Noble Quran a Creator or Creation?
Christians often quote the
following verses to prove that Islam is the Anti-Christ:
1 John 2
5- What does the Glorious Quran say about the “Father” and “Son” titles: The Quran is
against the exaggerated and inflated meanings of the words,
which ultimately the polytheistic religion of trinity was born
out of. Allah
Almighty Said: "And they say: "(God) Most
Gracious has begotten offspring." Glory to Him! they are (but)
servants raised
to honour.
(The Noble Quran, 21:26)"
So people did
call each others “Son” and “Daughter” of “GOD”. But in all
reality, they are no more than Servants of GOD raised to honor. Here are some Bible facts regarding "FATHER" and "SON": Isaiah 41:8 "But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, you descendants of Abraham my friend, Chronicles 20:7 Our God, did you not drive out the inhabitants of this land before your people Israel and give it forever to the descendants of Abraham your friend? James 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness," and he was called God's friend. [002:257] Allah is the friend (ولي) and patron of those who believe. He brings them out of the depths of darkness into light. While those who do not believe, have the forces of evil as their friends; they lead them out of light, into the very depths of darkness. Such ones shall be the inmates of the fire. They will stay there forever. [003:122] (And remember) when the two groups among you lost heart (and almost fell out), even though Allah was their Friend and Protector (وليهما)? In Allah (alone), should the believers place their trust! [004:125] Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith? For God did take Abraham for a friend (خليلا). 1- Is the Protector. 2- Is the Friend. 3- Is the Guardian. - Guardian - Friend - Protector - And the One who Chose us.
So, is Islam the anti-Christ system according to 1john 2:22? No it isn't. Here are some Quran and Bible facts regarding "FATHER" and "SON" in more details: (a)- Allah Almighty is the Believers' only Guardian (المولى): See Noble Verses 8:40, 22:13, 22:78. In Arabic we say ولي الأمر , which means "The Legal Guardian". المولى is derived from the root word ولي .ولي also means a chosen friend to Allah Almighty, as in the following point. (b)- FRIENDS = SONS in the Bible and Quran (ولي , وليهما and خليلا): We further read the following in the Bible:
Isaiah 41:8
Chronicles 20:7
James 2:23 So being GOD Almighty's "SON" in the Bible is equal to being GOD Almighty's "FRIEND". Now compare this to the following from the Holy Quran: [002:257] Allah is the friend (ولي) and patron of those who believe. He brings them out of the depths of darkness into light. While those who do not believe, have the forces of evil as their friends; they lead them out of light, into the very depths of darkness. Such ones shall be the inmates of the fire. They will stay there forever. [003:122] (And remember) when the two groups among you lost heart (and almost fell out), even though Allah was their Friend and Protector (وليهما)? In Allah (alone), should the believers place their trust! [004:125] Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith? For God did take Abraham for a friend (خليلا). So the Bible's "FATHER" & "SON" for GOD Almighty and the Believers is clearly metaphoric, and it only means that GOD Almighty: 1-
Is the Protector. Please visit the following link to further see what Words the Glorious Quran uses for these words and definitions: http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1368.msg5203.html#msg5203 (backup)
Regarding the following verse, and many others like it:
Let us look at Noble Verses 27:59, 3:33, 3:42, 7:144, 22:75, 35:32, 38:47, 39:4 from the Glorious Quran: [027:059] Say: Praise be to God, and Peace on his servants whom He has chosen اصطفى (for his Message). (Who) is better?- God or the false gods they associate (with Him)? 27:59 قل الحمد لله وسلام على عباده الذين اصطفى ءالله خير اما يشركون [003:033] God did choose اصطفى Adam and Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of 'Imran above all people,- 3:33 ان الله اصطفى ادم ونوحا وال ابراهيم وال عمران على العالمين [003:042] Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! God hath chosen thee اصطفاك and purified thee- chosen thee above the women of all nations. 3:42 واذ قالت الملائكة يامريم ان الله اصطفاك وطهرك واصطفاك على نساء العالمين
[007:144] (God)
said: "O
Moses! I have chosen thee
اصطفيتك above (other) men, by the mission I
(have given thee) and the words I (have spoken to thee): take then
the (revelation) which I give thee, and be of those who give
thanks." [022:075] God chooses يصطفي messengers from angels and from men for God is He Who hears and sees (all things). 22:75 الله يصطفي من الملائكة رسلا ومن الناس ان الله سميع بصير [035:032] Then We have given the Book for inheritance to such of Our Servants as We have chosen اصطفينا: but there are among them some who wrong their own souls; some who follow a middle course; and some who are, by God's leave, foremost in good deeds; that is the highest Grace. 35:32 ثم اورثنا الكتاب الذين اصطفينا من عبادنا فمنهم ظالم لنفسه ومنهم مقتصد ومنهم سابق بالخيرات باذن الله ذلك هو الفضل الكبير [038:047] They were, in Our sight, truly, of the company of the Elect المصطفين and the Good. 38:47 وانهم عندنا لمن المصطفين الاخيار [039:004] Had God wished to take to Himself an (actual) son, He could have chosen لاصطفى whom He pleased out of those whom He doth create: but Glory be to Him! (He is above such things.) He is God, the One, the Irresistible. 39:4 لو اراد الله ان يتخذ ولدا لاصطفى مما يخلق مايشاء سبحانه هو الله الواحد القهار Furthermore, when Jesus was asked about when the Hour will come, he replied by saying that only GOD Almighty Knows, and that no one knows, and that Jesus himself also didn't know. Please visit:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/questions.htm Trinity Crucified! 100s of verses thoroughly destroy the trinity lie.
Jesus spelled it out clearly that he knew NOT. And as to calling GOD Almighty "Father", and that Islam denies that GOD Almighty is an ACTUAL FATHER to anyone, in Islam GOD Almighty is called: 1- Rab - Lord, Father (you are the Rab of your home for being the husband and the father). 2- Wali - Guardian. In the old Aramaic and Hebrew, GOD Almighty was called what-is-equivalent-to-Islam our Rab and Wali. But that doesn't make GOD Almighty our actual Father. This is exactly as Judaism metaphors such as idolatry is equivalent to spiritual adultery. No Jew is actually married to GOD Almighty to actually commit a personal marriage-adultery against GOD Almighty! Yet, the Jews use metaphors like these. Islam came to straighten all of this out and to set the record straight that GOD Almighty has no son and no daughter. Otherwise, why would GOD Almighty torture us to Hell if we were His perfect sons and daughters?? No imperfect being could be an actual son of GOD Almighty (and no being is the son or daughter of GOD Almighty, period!): [005:018] (Both) the Jews and the Christians say: "We are sons of God, and his beloved." Say: "Why then doth He punish you for your sins? Nay, ye are but men,- of the men he hath created: He forgiveth whom He pleaseth, and He punisheth whom He pleaseth: and to God belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between: and unto Him is the final goal (of all)" Again, please visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1368.msg5203.html#msg5203 (backup).
The Logical Fallacy and Corruption of 1 John 2:22: (d)- Let's thoroughly look at the logical fallacy of this verse and its corruption: 1- " Who is the liar"?? Or should the text say who is the one who disbelieves?
The text clearly suggests that the book was written by a mere
individual, whose emotions caused him to make a logical fallacy
in the text, hence he is not a genuine Messenger of GOD.
Furthermore, we don't see this
statement anywhere else throughout the Bible!
For such a serious statement to be truly from GOD Almighty, we
would expect it to at the very least exist
in any or all of the
four gospels. But it exists in none, and not
even in Paul's writings either. It only exists once in
this late epistle.
Furthermore, the Bible’s commentary regarding
1 John book say:
1 John 5:7
"For there are three that bear record in
heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these
three are one."
This
verse was proven to be a forgery, and was removed from
all of the modern Bible translations.
6- Did you know that Elohim is Allah [1, *] [2] [3]. The "im" in Hebrew is a majestic plural for GOD Almighty. The root Word is "Eloh". And the more original Jews such as Yemenites and others say Alohim or Alah-im. And when you yourself pronounce it, you do naturally pronounce it with a double "l": Allah. Jews do call Him: Allah-im. Aramaic-speaking people also call GOD Almighty Allah. See the following videos for Biblical references and proofs. Also, pre-Islamic Biblical archeological findings have GOD Almighty as "Allah". So the Original Holy Name for GOD Almighty is not Eloh. It is Allah! Eloh is a Hebrew dialect, which not all Hebrew speakers use anyway. Allah had always been the Original and Universal GOD Almighty even before birth of Judaism, and the existence Hebrew. And Hebrew is a developed language from Phoenician. See the following links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_alphabet
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