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Note: The (*)
links below are html backups of the website's blog topic
threads,
in case the blog and
its database are down.
From:
www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm:
1 John 2:22-23
are discussed further down in details in this table.
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Son of
GOD definition:
We read in
the Bible that Prophets are servants and
Jesus is the Son
(Matthew 21:33-46).
Jesus is more than a Rasul
(Prophet). Jesus was
also called Abd (slave) of GOD
throughout the Old Testament, as all sons of GOD were also called slaves of
GOD.
Jesus' rule is only limited to
his Mansion.
Jesus also said that this Mansion is ruled by
twelve Thrones
(also called them 12 Fruits). Jesus being
King of kings
means that he is the King of his Mansion's
twelve thrones.
In the Bible,
"the
Son" refers to the
Messiah, - the
Ultimate Messenger to the Jews. Son in
their time meant Servant of GOD. Allah
Almighty also explained it precisely like this
in the Glorious Quran:
"....servants raised to honour.
(The Noble Quran, 21:26)".
Please visit:
www.answering-christianity.com/definition_son_of_god.htm
This is what we will be called in
Heaven, and Allah Almighty also does recognize
"Son of GOD" title in the Glorious Quran, but
Says that they are no more than pious "....servants
raised to honour.
(The Noble Quran, 21:26)".
Nothing Divine about them except that they exist
with Allah Almighty Eternally in Heaven.
But as far as Divine Authority and Power, all
Divine Authority and Power belong to Allah
Almighty Alone and none else. You can
visit:
www.answering-christianity.com/definition_son_of_god.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/definition_of_maseeh_in_quran.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god_in_bible_and_quran_debate.ppt
www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/son_translation.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/debate_templates.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/islam.htm
And other great figures in the Old Testament
were also called:
1-
GOD (El) of
other people.
2- Son of GOD.
3- Begotten Son of GOD.
4- GOD's First Born.
5- GOD's Heir and Heirs (for believers).
6- GODly name with Yahweh and El attached to the name.
7- King of Kings (called by Yahweh Himself in the OT).
8- All believers are GODs (Elohim) and Sons of GOD (Beni Elohim).
Is Jesus
"God's Son" or "God's Servant (SLAVE)?"
[1]
King James
Version
Acts 3:25 - Ye are the children of the prophets, and
of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in
thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.
Acts 3:26 - Unto you first God, having raised up
his Son Jesus,
sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities. |
New King
James Version
Acts 3:25 - You are the sons of the prophets, and of
the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, 'And in
your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed.
Acts 3:26 - To you first, God, having raised up
His Servant Jesus,
sent Him to bless you, in turning every one of you away from his iniquities. |
"Servant" here is slave. Jesus was called ABD (SLAVE) in the OT [2],
the
same word used for the Jews' slaves, and all slaves in general,
throughout
the Bible [2].
Jesus, the abd of GOD, is also the slave of GOD in the NT.
In Arabic also it's the same. My name
Osama
Abdallah,
which means
Osama slave of Allah (GOD). Slave is a subject of GOD. A
servant is
independent and has a free will. He/she can quit serving.
But a
slave (ABD) is OWNED.
I elaborated on
this point in details at:
www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/questions.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm#king_of_kings_lie
www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/islam.htm
The Servants are the
Prophets of Israel. But Jesus is "the Son" because he is the
Messiah, the highest Jew and highest Jewish Prophet.
Jesus' rule is
only limited to
his Mansion. Jesus also said that
this Mansion is ruled by
twelve Thrones (also called them 12
Fruits).
Prophets are Servants,
Jesus is the Son
(Matthew 21:33-46).
Jesus is only
the Lord of the Jews' Mansion.
Jesus was
called ABD (SLAVE)
of GOD:
www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm
John 1:1:
John 1:1 answered from the
Glorious Quran.
Includes a
Scientific Miracle in the Glorious Quran.
John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was
with God, and the Word was God
was with authority
(same Greek word for
satan's rule
[ [1]
[2]
[3])."
The
Word encompasses Jesus:
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From
www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2884.msg13839.html#msg13839:
From brother Shaad:
The Logos and Jesus are differentiated in
Revelation.....
Revelation 20:4
King James Version (KJV)
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and
judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were
beheaded for the ;witness
of Jesus,
and for
the word of God...
Revelation 1:2
2 who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the
word of God and
the
Jazaka Allah Khayr, dear brother Shaad. I took
the liberty to add the emphasis to your text, akhi. Indeed,
the Word of GOD Almighty
ENCOMPASSES Jesuss,
because he was made/created from it; exactly as Islam declares.
Trinity is false. I have added your addition
to:
www.answering-christianity.com/word_of_god.htm
Osama Abdallah |
Messiah
definition::
www.answering-christianity.com/definition_of_maseeh_in_quran.htm
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The Doubting Thomas:
Doubting Thomas said
"My Lord and my
God"
to Jesus. Yet, all believers were called "God", and Moses was
the "God" of the Believers, Aaron and Pharaoh:
For ample more
details, visit:
www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=1904.msg7673#msg7673
www.answering-christianity.com/john20_28.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_had_no_will.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_miracles.htm (non of Jesus' Miracles
were unique)
www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links
www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm
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Jesus'
Original Name:
Prophet Jesus' original name was
Eesa,
as this is also his Islamic name. Even in
Latin,
it is Iesu, and in
Greek it is Iesus. There is also a
great deal of evidence that Jesus spoke and
preached in Arabic. Not only that, but
Greek wasn't even that popular in Palestine.
Islam's claims are very strongly supported.
See proofs below.
Did early
Christians preach Prophet Muhammad in Rome?
Did the early
believers preach Prophet Muhammad in Corinth,
Antioch, Rome and all other places?
Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him, was the Jews'
Messiah and final Prophet. In both the
Glorious Quran and the Dead Sea Scrolls,
Ahmed was prophesied to come.
Ahmed in the Quran is Prophet Muhammad's
prophetic name. Also, see below the Dead
Sea Scroll image. The New Testament too
predicts the coming of three:
1.
Elijah.
2. The Messiah.
3. The Prophet.
John
1:19-21
and
John
7:40-44.
Click on
the
images
to
expand:
So did the
early believers preach the coming of Prophet
Ahmed or Muhammad? The answer is quite
possible, but Muhammad would've been phase 2 for
them and not phase 1. Jesus was the early
believers' immediate
Prophet, not Muhammad. And all of
the details that they had were about Jesus, not
Muhammad. It is also important to know
that the following
seven Roman Emperors
have thoroughly
burned all of the early believers'
writings:
1. Nero
(54-68)
2. Domitian (81-96)
3. Marcus Aurelius (161-180)
4. Septimius Severus (193-211; up to a
point)
5. Maximinius I Thrax (235-8; up to a
point)
6. Trajanus Decius (249-251)
7. Valerian (253-260)
Read all the
details with references
here.
What we have
today from "gospels" and "New Testament" were
written
80 years to 300 years after Jesus'
departure from this earth. So, the current
writings that we have are not original writings.
Also, to appease the Roman Empire's 3-headed
pagan religion and practices, the pagan 3-headed
trinity was invented [1]
[2]
[3]
[4]
[5].
Many lies had been fabricated after the original
writings were all lost. The Jews and
Christians of Arabia, however, did have writings
that predicted the coming of Prophet Muhammad.
These were some of the original texts that
survived.
From
Why Jews settled in Arabia section:
Video and text are in the
linked section above.
Jesus also
preached in Arabic:
See the clear
proofs in the following:
Prophet "AHMAD" is found in the
Dead Sea Scrolls:
(Film
in this article)
Prophet Muhammad in the previous Scriptures.
Prophet Muhammad was thoroughly foretold in the
Bible, and his prophetic Name,
"Ahmed", was also found in the Dead Sea Scrolls,
and it was mentioned precisely in the Glorious
Quran for the Prophet to be foretold by this
very Name, Ahmed [1]
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Father and Son
Definitions:
Definition of Key Terms (*)
(a discussion between me and a Christian):
1- What does
"The Father"
really mean in the Bible? How is it defined
in Islam? (see
point #5 below) How does the Bible really define it?
2- What does "Son of
GOD"
really mean in the Bible?
3-
Jesus had to match
Melchizedek
in Miracles and Power, according to the New Testament.
See this
text-debate (*)
between me and a Christian. Jesus' Miracles and
Miraculous Birth and Nature were given to him because he
needed to be in according to
Melchizedek. He had to be
“in according to Melchizedek”
as the Bible specifically says. See
Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20
[2].
Who is
Melchizedek?
According
to the Bible, he was the Jews' highest priest who had
"no father and no mother", and
"no
beginning and no end"
(Genesis
14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20)
[2].
The Bible literally says that. Jesus had to be similar
and inline with him; another proof that Jesus being "God"
doesn't mean he is the Creator of the Universe.
4- Does the
Bible say that Yahweh
created Jesus?
Yes it does (*).
(a)- GOD Almighty, who
is not seen by anyone or anything,
nor is like unto anyone or anything.
(b)- The World of Command,
which is the invisible world of the
Beings that were made by the Word
and the Spirit.
(c)- The World of Creation,
the flush and blood, dust and water
physical world and Universes
(plural).
Also visit:
Is the Noble Quran a Creator or
Creation?
"Father" and "Son"
in Islam and the Bible:
Christians often quote the
following verses to prove that Islam is the Anti-Christ:
1 John 2
22 Who is a liar but he that
denies that Jesus is the
Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father
and the Son.
23 No one who
denies the Son has the
Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the
Father also.
5- What
does the Glorious Quran say about the
“Father” and
“Son” titles:
So,
is Islam the anti-Christ
system according to
1john
2:22?
No it isn't. Here are some Quran and Bible facts
regarding "FATHER" and "SON" in more details:
(a)-
Allah Almighty is the
Believers' only Guardian (المولى):
(b)-
FRIENDS = SONS in the Bible and Quran
(ولي
,
وليهما
and
خليلا):
We
further read the following in the Bible:
Isaiah 41:8
"But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, you
descendants of
Abraham my friend,
Chronicles 20:7
Our God, did you not drive out the inhabitants of this land before
your people Israel and give it forever to the descendants of
Abraham your friend?
James 2:23
And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God,
and it was credited to him as righteousness," and
he
was called God's friend.
So
being GOD Almighty's
"SON" in the
Bible is equal to being GOD Almighty's "FRIEND".
Now compare this to the following from the Holy Quran:
[002:257]
Allah is the friend (ولي)
and patron of those who believe. He brings them out
of the depths of darkness into light. While those who do not
believe, have the forces of evil as their friends; they lead them
out of light, into the very depths of darkness. Such ones shall be
the inmates of the fire. They will stay there forever.
[003:122] (And
remember) when the two groups among you lost heart (and almost fell
out), even though
Allah was their Friend and Protector
(وليهما)?
In Allah (alone), should the believers place their trust!
[004:125] Who
can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to
God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith?
For God did take Abraham for a friend
(خليلا).
So
the Bible's "FATHER" & "SON" for GOD Almighty and the Believers is
clearly metaphoric, and it only means that GOD Almighty:
1-
Is the Protector.
2- Is the Friend.
3- Is the Guardian.
Please visit the following link to further see what Words the
Glorious Quran uses for these words and definitions:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1368.msg5203.html#msg5203
(backup)
(c)- BEGET = CHOSE:
Regarding the following verse, and many others like it:
King James Bible Psalm 2:7
I will declare the decree: the LORD hath
said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day
have I begotten
thee.
Let
us look at Noble Verses
27:59, 3:33, 3:42, 7:144, 22:75, 35:32, 38:47, 39:4 from
the Glorious Quran:
[027:059]
Say: Praise be to God,
and Peace on his servants whom
He has chosen
اصطفى (for his Message). (Who) is better?-
God or the false gods they associate (with Him)?
27:59 قل الحمد لله وسلام على عباده الذين اصطفى ءالله خير اما يشركون
[003:033]
God did choose
اصطفى Adam and Noah, the family of Abraham,
and the family of 'Imran above all people,-
3:33 ان الله اصطفى ادم ونوحا وال ابراهيم وال عمران على العالمين
[003:042]
Behold! the angels said: "O
Mary! God hath chosen thee
اصطفاك and purified thee- chosen thee above
the women of all nations.
3:42 واذ قالت الملائكة يامريم ان الله اصطفاك وطهرك واصطفاك على نساء
العالمين
[007:144] (God)
said: "O
Moses! I have chosen thee
اصطفيتك above (other) men, by the mission I
(have given thee) and the words I (have spoken to thee): take then
the (revelation) which I give thee, and be of those who give
thanks."
7:144 قال ياموسى اني اصطفيتك على الناس برسالاتي وبكلامي فخذ ما
اتيتك وكن من الشاكرين
[022:075]
God chooses
يصطفي messengers from angels and from men for
God is He Who hears and sees (all things).
22:75 الله يصطفي من الملائكة رسلا ومن الناس ان الله سميع بصير
[035:032]
Then We have given the
Book for inheritance to such of Our Servants as
We have chosen
اصطفينا: but there are among them some who
wrong their own souls; some who follow a middle course; and some who
are, by God's leave, foremost in good deeds; that is the highest
Grace.
35:32 ثم اورثنا الكتاب الذين اصطفينا من عبادنا فمنهم ظالم لنفسه
ومنهم مقتصد ومنهم سابق بالخيرات باذن الله ذلك هو الفضل الكبير
[038:047]
They were, in Our sight,
truly, of the company
of the
Elect
المصطفين and the Good.
38:47 وانهم عندنا لمن المصطفين الاخيار
[039:004]
Had God wished to take
to Himself an (actual) son,
He could have chosen
لاصطفى
whom He pleased out of those whom He doth create: but Glory be to
Him! (He is above such things.) He is God, the One, the
Irresistible.
39:4 لو اراد الله ان يتخذ ولدا لاصطفى مما يخلق مايشاء سبحانه هو
الله الواحد القهار
Furthermore, when Jesus was asked about when the Hour will come, he
replied by saying that only GOD Almighty Knows, and that no one
knows, and that Jesus himself also didn't know. Please visit:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/questions.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links
Jesus spelled it out clearly
that he knew NOT.
And as to calling GOD Almighty "Father", and that Islam denies that
GOD Almighty is an ACTUAL FATHER to anyone, in Islam GOD Almighty is
called:
1-
Rab - Lord, Father (you are the Rab of your home for being the
husband and the father).
2-
Wali - Guardian.
In
the old Aramaic and Hebrew, GOD Almighty was called
what-is-equivalent-to-Islam our Rab and Wali.
But that doesn't make GOD Almighty our actual Father. This is
exactly as Judaism metaphors such as
idolatry is equivalent to spiritual adultery. No Jew is
actually married to GOD Almighty to actually commit a personal
marriage-adultery against GOD Almighty! Yet, the Jews use
metaphors like these. Islam came to straighten all of this out
and to set the record straight that GOD Almighty has no son and no
daughter. Otherwise, why would GOD Almighty torture us to Hell
if we were His perfect sons and daughters?? No imperfect being
could be an actual son of GOD Almighty (and no being is the son or
daughter of GOD Almighty, period!):
[005:018]
(Both) the Jews and the
Christians say: "We are sons of God, and his beloved." Say: "Why
then doth He punish you for your sins? Nay, ye are
but men,- of the men he hath created: He forgiveth whom He pleaseth,
and He punisheth whom He pleaseth: and to God belongeth the dominion
of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between: and unto Him
is the final goal (of all)"
Again, please visit:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1368.msg5203.html#msg5203
(backup).
The Logical Fallacy and
Corruption of 1 John 2:22:
(d)- Let's
thoroughly look at the logical fallacy of this verse and its
corruption:
1-
" Who is the liar"?? Or should the text say who is the
one who disbelieves?
2- Also keep in mind that the 1 John
book contains forgeries. For example:
6- Did you know that
Elohim is Allah [1,
*] [2]
[3].
The "im" in Hebrew is a majestic plural for GOD Almighty. The
root Word is "Eloh". And the more original Jews such as
Yemenites and others say
Alohim or Alah-im. And when you yourself pronounce
it, you do naturally pronounce it with a
double "l": Allah. Jews do call Him: Allah-im.
Aramaic-speaking people also call GOD Almighty
Allah. See the following videos for Biblical references
and proofs. Also,
pre-Islamic Biblical archeological findings have GOD
Almighty as "Allah". So the Original Holy Name for GOD
Almighty is not Eloh. It is Allah!
Eloh is a Hebrew dialect, which not all Hebrew speakers use anyway.
Allah had always been the Original and Universal GOD Almighty even
before birth of Judaism, and the existence Hebrew. And Hebrew
is a developed language from Phoenician. See the following
links:
(Click to play videos)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_alphabet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Hebrew
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