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Do they found Dajjal's Island ?
« on: October 26, 2016, 04:39:50 PM »
As-Salam aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh,

An interesting video in Arabic talking about Dajjal. There is an image in this video (turn from 1:20 min) which shows some Island. Is this a real Dajjal Island ? What do you think ?

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sCzOOYvEbs

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Re: Do they found Dajjal's Island ?
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2016, 12:08:10 AM »
Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother,

Very interesting.  The dajjal will come from the east and go to Kufa (in Iraq).  The Shias are definitely plagued with dajjals leading them.  Their whole religion is very ridiculous.  The way they beat themselves with swords and knives and chains, and the way they glorify creations made from dust all give clear indications that they are corrupt, and they are ripe for a dajjal to come from them:

www.answering-christianity.com/ac11.htm#links

Also visit this link:

www.harunyahya.com/en/Articles/4326/the-messiah-dajjal-has-secretly

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Do they found Dajjal's Island ?
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2016, 05:31:53 AM »
Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother,

Very interesting.  The dajjal will come from the east and go to Kufa (in Iraq).  The Shias are definitely plagued with dajjals leading them.  Their whole religion is very ridiculous.  The way they beat themselves with swords and knives and chains, and the way they glorify creations made from dust all give clear indications that they are corrupt, and they are ripe for a dajjal to come from them:

www.answering-christianity.com/ac11.htm#links

Also visit this link:

www.harunyahya.com/en/Articles/4326/the-messiah-dajjal-has-secretly

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

A lot of sunnis are also corrupt. Some of their leading authorities think the death sentence for apostacy is divine law (it's entirely extra-Quranic) and they worship Muhammad when they're in a mode of prayer (in the tashahhud). Their reasoning for justifying this is hilarious: https://islamqa.info/en/34535.

At the end of the day the safest bet is to turn to God alone and trust him that he made his quran complete, just like he constantly expounds in the book he personally authored for you (the Quran).

Peace.

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Re: Do they found Dajjal's Island ?
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2016, 07:46:31 AM »

A lot of sunnis are also corrupt. Some of their leading authorities think the death sentence for apostacy is divine law (it's entirely extra-Quranic) and they worship Muhammad when they're in a mode of prayer (in the tashahhud). Their reasoning for justifying this is hilarious: https://islamqa.info/en/34535.


shouldnt the statement be they worship Muhammad and themselves.
with that being said, there are 3 class of groups being worshiped (Allah/Muhammad/Those who prays)

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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2016, 08:39:22 AM »

A lot of sunnis are also corrupt. Some of their leading authorities think the death sentence for apostacy is divine law (it's entirely extra-Quranic) and they worship Muhammad when they're in a mode of prayer (in the tashahhud). Their reasoning for justifying this is hilarious: https://islamqa.info/en/34535.


shouldnt the statement be they worship Muhammad and themselves.
with that being said, there are 3 class of groups being worshiped (Allah/Muhammad/Those who prays)

Maybe. Maybe not. But "asalumu alayka ayyahan nabiyyu" is worse because Muhammad is dead, and thus you're having a direct conversation with Muhammad in a mode of prayer, like he is some spirit present in the room.

I omit tashahhud from my prayers entirely.

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Re: Do they found Dajjal's Island ?
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2016, 10:04:08 AM »

A lot of sunnis are also corrupt. Some of their leading authorities think the death sentence for apostacy is divine law (it's entirely extra-Quranic) and they worship Muhammad when they're in a mode of prayer (in the tashahhud). Their reasoning for justifying this is hilarious: https://islamqa.info/en/34535.


shouldnt the statement be they worship Muhammad and themselves.
with that being said, there are 3 class of groups being worshiped (Allah/Muhammad/Those who prays)

Maybe. Maybe not. But "asalumu alayka ayyahan nabiyyu" is worse because Muhammad is dead, and thus you're having a direct conversation with Muhammad in a mode of prayer, like he is some spirit present in the room.

I omit tashahhud from my prayers entirely.

Repent to Allah you heretic! First Mirza Ghulam Ahmed and then Quranism (which had been refuted many times before and is kufr accoridng to more than one scholar) and now THIS!? The tashahud is obligatory in prayer whether you like it or not. If you leave it then your prayer is most likely invalid. Repent to Allah. And are you saying that Ibn Masud (may Allah be pleased with him) is corrupt?

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Re: Do they found Dajjal's Island ?
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2016, 01:12:29 PM »

A lot of sunnis are also corrupt. Some of their leading authorities think the death sentence for apostacy is divine law (it's entirely extra-Quranic) and they worship Muhammad when they're in a mode of prayer (in the tashahhud). Their reasoning for justifying this is hilarious: https://islamqa.info/en/34535.


shouldnt the statement be they worship Muhammad and themselves.
with that being said, there are 3 class of groups being worshiped (Allah/Muhammad/Those who prays)

Maybe. Maybe not. But "asalumu alayka ayyahan nabiyyu" is worse because Muhammad is dead, and thus you're having a direct conversation with Muhammad in a mode of prayer, like he is some spirit present in the room.

I omit tashahhud from my prayers entirely.

Repent to Allah you heretic! First Mirza Ghulam Ahmed and then Quranism (which had been refuted many times before and is kufr accoridng to more than one scholar) and now THIS!? The tashahud is obligatory in prayer whether you like it or not. If you leave it then your prayer is most likely invalid. Repent to Allah. And are you saying that Ibn Masud (may Allah be pleased with him) is corrupt?

I never was an ahmadi and quranist. Stop assuming things.

Stop being emotional. Argue with logic and reason. You have been brainwashed. I dont trust scholars. Please produce an actual argument.

If you want to refute quranism then post it in my previous thread, as an intellectually curious individual who doesnt let his emotions get the better of him i'd like to see it.

Peace.

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Re: Do they found Dajjal's Island ?
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2016, 05:36:48 AM »
When one is in a mode of seeking blessings. The recitation of prayers are solely seeked upon to the merciful Creator.

When you say Assalamu 'ala...  Allahumma barek 'ala Allahumma salli 'ala . You are voicing prayers to the merciful Creator so that He will send down onto prophets and onto Muslims; the salams, baraks, salats.

The hadith is just talking about the recitation of seeking salam from the Creator to be sent down onto Muhammad (saw) with version onto you or onto the prophet.
Which is not a big issue as in the end,  God will always sent down His salams onto His servants.
 

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Re: Do they found Dajjal's Island ?
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2016, 08:12:15 AM »
Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother,

Very interesting.  The dajjal will come from the east and go to Kufa (in Iraq).  The Shias are definitely plagued with dajjals leading them.  Their whole religion is very ridiculous.  The way they beat themselves with swords and knives and chains, and the way they glorify creations made from dust all give clear indications that they are corrupt, and they are ripe for a dajjal to come from them:

www.answering-christianity.com/ac11.htm#links

Also visit this link:

www.harunyahya.com/en/Articles/4326/the-messiah-dajjal-has-secretly

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

As-Salam aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh,

Thank you dear brother Osama for providing me the links. I will check them insha'Allah.

Take care, and salam,
Ahmed (Poland, Warsaw)

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Re: Do they found Dajjal's Island ?
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2016, 05:06:27 AM »
Regarding the tashahud issue:

There are very few religious issues that Muslim scholars pretty much don't differ about at all. As far as I have read, the obligatory parts of prayers (like the tashahud) are among those issues. The reason being that such practices were being performed by thousands of Muslims in Makkah, Medina and other areas, therefore there was little doubt about how these religious practices were supposed to be performed.

If the evidence or proof regarding the obligatory parts of salat is not enough for a Muslim, then if I'm not mistaken, the evidence or proof for the reliability of the Qur'an (from a purely historical point-of-view) should also not be enough for that Muslim.