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Tanveer:

--- Quote from: Mujahid Saifullah on February 21, 2013, 05:05:30 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tanveer ---Why a caliphate?
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The division of the Muslim lands is how they defeated us. They did the same thing to the Soviets.
Divide and conquer ideology. They murdered Khaddafi because he wanted unity in Africa.
Now they're sponsoring terrorism and insurrection in the Muslim lands, putting constraints on national economies; forcing Muslim nations to succumb to Zionist usury to secure national debt.
There is a strong need for unity, if we are to defeat the jāhil, the dajjāl, the kuffār, the fire-worshipers and those whom pray at the Altar of Evil in the Church of Murder, and the Synagogue of Satan.

Innama jazao allatheenayuhariboona Allāha warasoolahu wayas3awna feeal-ardi fasadan an yuqattaloo aw yusallabooaw tuqatta3a aydeehim waarjuluhum min khilafin awyunfaw mina al-ardi thalika lahum khizyun fee addunyawalahum fee al-akhirati 3athabun 3atheem.

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The caliphate wont bring back unity or improve the situation simply because the caliphate style of governance is now extinct. Saladin united the whole of the warring states and defeated the crusaders without the caliphate. The Prophet PBUH didnt rule as a Caliph. No where in Islam does it say you must use a caliphate to be successful, all it says it live and rule according to Islam. You can live according to Islam using countries and democracy. Its time muslims got their act together. Its because of unrealistic and unhelpful hopes like the caliphate that we are still in such a mess.

Mujahid Saifullah:
Marxism began as an ideal, and then became reality. French secularism was an ideal, which then got implemented all over the world.

Regardless, I'm in favor of autonomous democracies, but there also needs to be a single banner to unite us all as statesmen.

Tanveer:

--- Quote from: Mujahid Saifullah on February 21, 2013, 06:27:32 PM ---Marxism began as an ideal, and then became reality. French secularism was an ideal, which then got implemented all over the world.

Regardless, I'm in favor of antonymous democracies, but there also needs to be a single banner to unite us all as statesmen.

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What is a antonymous democracy? According to google antonymous means opposite. That single banner can be islam

Mujahid Saifullah:

--- Quote from: Tanveer ---What is a antonymous democracy?
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My spellchecker must have changed it, it's supposed to be autonomous.

Autonomous Democracy, or Democratic Autonomy. Basically, a self-governing, self-determinate state run by the people for the people. Smaller government on a local level is what I would be advocating. But also with strong cross-border cooperation and unity; socialism with the absence of nationalism. An egalitarian state promoting both individualism and collectivism. The ideal would be world unity through secular humanism, but the practical would be, as I see it, a socialist form of Pan-Islamism.

My conceptual nation could be labeled something akin to "The Democratic Federal Socialist Republic of the United Autonomous Provinces of the Islamic Commonwealth', the opposite of practically all governments in the world today, essentially. It's a seemingly novel idea, but it can become actualized, insha'Allāh.

Tanveer:

--- Quote from: Mujahid Saifullah on February 22, 2013, 07:26:45 AM ---
--- Quote from: Tanveer ---What is a antonymous democracy?
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My spellchecker must have changed it, it's supposed to be autonomous.

Autonomous Democracy, or Democratic Autonomy. Basically, a self-governing, self-determinate state run by the people for the people. Smaller government on a local level is what I would be advocating. But also with strong cross-border cooperation and unity; socialism with the absence of nationalism. An egalitarian state promoting both individualism and collectivism. The ideal would be world unity through secular humanism, but the practical would be, as I see it, a socialist form of Pan-Islamism.

My conceptual nation could be labeled something akin to "The Democratic Federal Socialist Republic of the United Autonomous Provinces of the Islamic Commonwealth', the opposite of practically all governments in the world today, essentially. It's a seemingly novel idea, but it can become actualized, insha'Allāh.

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Inshallah

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