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Offline Abdullah Tahmeed

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A problem of bible.
« on: April 23, 2015, 06:53:10 AM »
The verses:

Jesus Is Tested in the Wilderness

4 Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, left the Jordan and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, 2 where for forty days he was tempted[a] by the devil. He ate nothing during those days, and at the end of them he was hungry.

3 The devil said to him, “If you are the Son of God, tell this stone to become bread.”

4 Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone.’

5 The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. 6 And he said to him, “I will give you all their authority and splendor; it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. 7 If you worship me, it will all be yours.”

8 Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.’[c]”

9 The devil led him to Jerusalem and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down from here. 10 For it is written:

“‘He will command his angels concerning you
    to guard you carefully;
11 they will lift you up in their hands,
    so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’[d]”

12 Jesus answered, “It is said: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’[e]”

13 When the devil had finished all this tempting, he left him until an opportune time.


GOD WAS BEING TEMPTED BY SATAN???? :O Its impossible. So we conclude jesus isn't God even in the eyes of bible.

5 The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world.

Thats scientifically impossible.

6 And he said to him, “I will give you all their authority and splendor; it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. 7 If you worship me, it will all be yours.”

8 Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.’[c]”

Satan is telling God to worship him????????  And if Jesus was God, doesn't that mean he already has all those things??

33 In the synagogue there was a man possessed by a demon, an impure spirit. He cried out at the top of his voice, 34 “Go away! What do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are—the Holy One of God!”

35 “Be quiet!” Jesus said sternly. “Come out of him!” Then the demon threw the man down before them all and came out without injuring him.

36 All the people were amazed and said to each other, “What words these are! With authority and power he gives orders to impure spirits and they come out!” 37 And the news about him spread throughout the surrounding area.

the Holy One of God!”!!! And the Demon is telling him to go away??

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Re: A problem of bible.
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2015, 10:22:14 AM »
Greek scribes wrote Satan as "ho theos" on earth. In other word , Christians believe that Satan temporarily gets a rank equal to God when residing on earth until certain appointed time.

So its not an issue in those Greek story for equal level beings to have such conversation, in this case the story is about a false God but temporarily equal in rank,  instructing 'true' God to worship the former.

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Re: A problem of bible.
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2015, 03:55:57 PM »
Greek scribes wrote Satan as "ho theos" on earth. In other word , Christians believe that Satan temporarily gets a rank equal to God when residing on earth until certain appointed time.

So its not an issue in those Greek story for equal level beings to have such conversation, in this case the story is about a false God but temporarily equal in rank,  instructing 'true' God to worship the former.

U didn't answer anything, but made it more complicated than it needed to be.

First, do you believe jesus is God? If so, why does jesus say only worship God?
Secondly, satan has been given power, yes. BUT, nowhere in the bible you can find him being equal to God... He has powers, but no where near as powerfull as God. Even satan will die at the end. And who will take his spirit out of his 'body'? AN ANGEL of god! So the angel is more powerful because God works trough him.

And also God is doing his works trough jesus as bible says, right?

So jesus has god's spirit in him... And look what jesus says: i don't speak on my behalf, god does his work trough me. He is in a sense powerless, it's God doing what is need to be done.
Jesus ate and went to the bathroom. Jesus cried, prayed with his face on the ground, got very angry and a bit violent with jews in the synagogue who used it as a 'business'. Just like our prophet who broke every single statue in the kabah...


 

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