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Christian Missionary : Allah created christianity ?
« on: July 21, 2020, 01:32:18 PM »
Assalamualaikum brother, how to respond to Christians missionary that said Allah that responsible for created Christianity by letting and misled the people to believe that the person being crucified as a substitute to Jesus appears to them like actually him until they confused and started to follow Christianity ?

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Re: Christian Missionary : Allah created christianity ?
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2020, 08:14:56 PM »
Assalamualaikum brother, how to respond to Christians missionary that said Allah that responsible for created Christianity by letting and misled the people to believe that the person being crucified as a substitute to Jesus appears to them like actually him until they confused and started to follow Christianity ?

The fact that the real problem is that enemies of Jesus tried to kill him. God protected his servant from their evil.

Christ-worshippers on the other hand applied pagan theories of atonement to this good prophet who used to ask them to worship his God alone.

The undeniable truth is that all previous prophets preached absolute monotheism.

Whether a prophet was killed or not is irrelevant.

People are expected to follow the footsteps of their prophets not to apply pagan theories of atonement to them.

It must. Muslims believe that Prophet Jesus is blessed not cursed as Christians claim.

There are many pre-Islamic references that shows how people used to believe that Prophet Jesus was saved by God:

"But in doing these things, they condemn themselves. Yes, they saw me; they punished me. It was another, their father, who drank the gall and the vinegar; it was not I. They struck me with the reed; it was another, Simon, who bore the cross on his shoulder. I was another upon Whom they placed the crown of thorns. But I was rejoicing in the height over all the wealth of the archons and the offspring of their error, of their empty glory. And I was laughing at their ignorance.

And I subjected all their powers. For as I came downward, no one saw me. For I was altering my shapes, changing from form to form. And therefore, when I was at their gates, I assumed their likeness
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http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/pseudepigrapha/2seth.html

In this work, Jesus is described as a prophet and not the son of God, while Paul is called "the deceived." Furthermore, the Gospel of Barnabas states that Jesus escaped crucifixion by being raised alive to heaven, while Judas Iscariot the traitor was crucified in his place.
(N.B: Some people doubt the authenticity of this gospel.)

https://www.truthorfiction.com/gospel-of-barnabas/
https://www.barnabas.net/



The Cerinthians and later the Basilidians, for example, who were among the first of the early Christian communities, denied that Jesus was crucified...The Carpocratians, another early Christian sect, believed that it was not Jesus who was crucified, but another in his place

The first century scholar Basilides بازيليد and his followers, the Basilidians. They believed that Prophet Jesus was saved from the crucifixion. The beliefs of Basilides matter because he was living very close to the time of the disciples, and there are even traditions that he got these teachings from disciples of Jesus such as Peter.

https://www.manyprophetsonemessage.com/2017/06/30/the-early-christians-who-believed-jesus-was-saved-from-crucifixion/
https://www.answering-christianity.com/abdullah_smith/the_crucifixion_hoax_2.htm

Christian historians about the era of "Justinian I" 527 to 565 AD:


It's a book by a Christian historian for his fellow Christ-worshippers. Muslims have no business here.

The Christian historian educates his fellow Christ-worshippers that the doctrine of the whole Egypt was that Jesus was saved from crucifixion.
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Re: Christian Missionary : Allah created christianity ?
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2020, 11:56:08 PM »
As'salamu Alaikum Everyone,

Jazaka Allah Khayr for the good answer dear brother Sama.  I would like to add the following two points:


1-  Christian and Christianity are titles that were forged in Antioch.  Basically, it's calling the believers Messians.  It's like calling Muslims Muhammadans, and Jews Mosians or Davidians.  The believers in Palestine were never called Messians.

2-  Muslim was the title of the believers during Jesus' times in Palestine:

www.answering-christianity.com/being_like_the_teacher.pdf
www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm#capsule

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Christian Missionary : Allah created christianity ?
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2023, 03:59:21 PM »
Paulicians,also believed Christ Jesus have been spared

 

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