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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: ISLAM VS ISIS,BOKO HARAM AND AL-QUEDHA
« on: November 16, 2014, 03:11:45 PM »You've done it again . Then don't expect us to shove these aside as mild differences in opinions . It is a matter of fundamental doctrine .
I said you did it yourself . "Is Jinn=Bacteria ?" , reply 21 . It is mine . Look it over again and see why I was agitated . I do know that you care what people think more than what you care about Islam itself .
4:140 And it has already come down to you in the Book that when you hear the verses of Allah [recited], they are denied [by them] and ridiculed; so do not sit with them until they enter into another conversation. Indeed, you would then be like them. Indeed Allah will gather the hypocrites and disbelievers in Hell all together -
Then , I talked about the topic numerous times and am not willing to go over it again . What I saw is that you deny them because either you can't comprehend them , or because you don't like them . And no matter how much I suggest you ask and learn - both of you - , arrogance seems to make you think you are superior to everyone and above learning . You seriously don't have the slightest amount of knowledge of what you despise so much . I might only hold fragments of the basics , but you don't see me acting like I'm above all else . You love to take signs out of context and use them where they don't apply to claim "Hadith contradicts Quran" , yet you always prove you don't read the book you claim to follow :
4:115 And whoever opposes the Messenger after guidance has become clear to him and follows other than the way of the believers - We will give him what he has taken and drive him into Hell, and evil it is as a destination.
22:8 And of the people is he who disputes about Allah without knowledge or guidance or an enlightening book [from Him],
10:39 Rather, they have denied that which they encompass not in knowledge and whose interpretation has not yet come to them. Thus did those before them deny. Then observe how was the end of the wrongdoers.
You're quite paradoxial . You talk about tolerance and call me "brother" in a reply , and in the same reply you bash at the way of the survivng group , Ahl Assunah Waljama'a in such a bawdy manner .
حَدَّثَنَا هِشَامُ بْنُ عَمَّارٍ، حَدَّثَنَا الْوَلِيدُ بْنُ مُسْلِمٍ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو عَمْرٍو، حَدَّثَنَا قَتَادَةُ، عَنْ أَنَسِ بْنِ مَالِكٍ، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ " إِنَّ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ افْتَرَقَتْ عَلَى إِحْدَى وَسَبْعِينَ فِرْقَةً وَإِنَّ أُمَّتِي سَتَفْتَرِقُ عَلَى ثِنْتَيْنِ وَسَبْعِينَ فِرْقَةً كُلُّهَا فِي النَّارِ إِلاَّ وَاحِدَةً وَهِيَ الْجَمَاعَةُ " .
Ibn Majah :
It was narrated from Anas bin Malik that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
‘The Children of Israel split into seventy-one sects, and my nation will split into seventy-two, all of which will be in Hell apart from one, which is the main body.”
Among the reasons I'm not around . I thought things would be better if I return , but it only got worse . You should take some classes in anger management . Because if this one post I made got you this agitated more than you would ever be had it been Islam that is being insulted , then you'll probably get a heart attack if we continue .
I testify to the lord that I am innocent of what you preach and what you describe . I'm already used to all slanders against me and Islam . Yet we endure , for we hope to be of the strangers .
Ibn Majah , Tirmithi , Muslim :
“Islam began as something strange and will go back to being strange, so glad tidings to the strangers.’”
109:6 For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."
Black , out .
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Show me where I allowed for Allah Almighty or Prophet Muhammad or the Glorious Quran or for Islam to be insulted here.
I said you did it yourself . "Is Jinn=Bacteria ?" , reply 21 . It is mine . Look it over again and see why I was agitated . I do know that you care what people think more than what you care about Islam itself .
4:140 And it has already come down to you in the Book that when you hear the verses of Allah [recited], they are denied [by them] and ridiculed; so do not sit with them until they enter into another conversation. Indeed, you would then be like them. Indeed Allah will gather the hypocrites and disbelievers in Hell all together -
Then , I talked about the topic numerous times and am not willing to go over it again . What I saw is that you deny them because either you can't comprehend them , or because you don't like them . And no matter how much I suggest you ask and learn - both of you - , arrogance seems to make you think you are superior to everyone and above learning . You seriously don't have the slightest amount of knowledge of what you despise so much . I might only hold fragments of the basics , but you don't see me acting like I'm above all else . You love to take signs out of context and use them where they don't apply to claim "Hadith contradicts Quran" , yet you always prove you don't read the book you claim to follow :
4:115 And whoever opposes the Messenger after guidance has become clear to him and follows other than the way of the believers - We will give him what he has taken and drive him into Hell, and evil it is as a destination.
22:8 And of the people is he who disputes about Allah without knowledge or guidance or an enlightening book [from Him],
10:39 Rather, they have denied that which they encompass not in knowledge and whose interpretation has not yet come to them. Thus did those before them deny. Then observe how was the end of the wrongdoers.
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as the ones I gave above, ...................
You're quite paradoxial . You talk about tolerance and call me "brother" in a reply , and in the same reply you bash at the way of the survivng group , Ahl Assunah Waljama'a in such a bawdy manner .
حَدَّثَنَا هِشَامُ بْنُ عَمَّارٍ، حَدَّثَنَا الْوَلِيدُ بْنُ مُسْلِمٍ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو عَمْرٍو، حَدَّثَنَا قَتَادَةُ، عَنْ أَنَسِ بْنِ مَالِكٍ، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ " إِنَّ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ افْتَرَقَتْ عَلَى إِحْدَى وَسَبْعِينَ فِرْقَةً وَإِنَّ أُمَّتِي سَتَفْتَرِقُ عَلَى ثِنْتَيْنِ وَسَبْعِينَ فِرْقَةً كُلُّهَا فِي النَّارِ إِلاَّ وَاحِدَةً وَهِيَ الْجَمَاعَةُ " .
Ibn Majah :
It was narrated from Anas bin Malik that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
‘The Children of Israel split into seventy-one sects, and my nation will split into seventy-two, all of which will be in Hell apart from one, which is the main body.”
Among the reasons I'm not around . I thought things would be better if I return , but it only got worse . You should take some classes in anger management . Because if this one post I made got you this agitated more than you would ever be had it been Islam that is being insulted , then you'll probably get a heart attack if we continue .
I testify to the lord that I am innocent of what you preach and what you describe . I'm already used to all slanders against me and Islam . Yet we endure , for we hope to be of the strangers .
Ibn Majah , Tirmithi , Muslim :
“Islam began as something strange and will go back to being strange, so glad tidings to the strangers.’”
109:6 For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."
Black , out .