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##### Quran Morality and Moral Code, Laws & QA / The Glorious Quran's Moral Code's Detail List (195 of them).
« on: September 05, 2012, 12:41:43 PM »
As'salamu Alaikum Everyone,

Please visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/quran_moral_code.htm to see the 195 Moral Commandments that I was able to extract from the Glorious Quran.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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##### Quran Morality and Moral Code, Laws & QA / Re: Are there more "messengers of Allah"?
« on: September 05, 2012, 12:26:24 PM »
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"Imagine that you are on a street with houses marked 1 through n. There is a house in between (x) such that the sum of the house numbers to left of it equals the sum of the house numbers to its right. If n is between 50 and 500, what are n and x?" This is a bivariate problem with multiple solutions. Ramanujan thought about it and gave the answer with a twist: He gave a continued fraction. The unusual part was that it was the solution to the whole class of problems. Mahalanobis was astounded and asked how he did it. "It is simple. The minute I heard the problem, I knew that the answer was a continued fraction. Which continued fraction, I asked myself. Then the answer came to my mind," Ramanujan replied.

This is a quote from the link that you gave.  Mr. Ramanujan might be a mathematical genius, and an expert in Calculus and Differential Equations, and has a great analytical mind, but he is not Messenger of GOD Almighty.

I don't think you really read with care what I wrote to you, Mokko.  The Glorious Quran's Miracles in Science and Mathematics are what NASA and the Computer Age of today have begun to unveil.  And Allah Almighty made it very clear that He put those Miracles in the Holy Quran as a proof to Its Divinity.

So again, why don't you bring your best argument against the Holy Quran's Scientific Miracles and see if our Holy Book is Miraculous or not?

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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##### Quran Morality and Moral Code, Laws & QA / Re: Are there more "messengers of Allah"?
« on: September 05, 2012, 11:41:18 AM »
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My post was fully consistent with your "scientific miracle" project: I just asked if it was possible to re-read Quranic verses in light of scientific discoveries on Geschwind syndrome.

Your post had nothing to do with the Overwhelming Scientific Miracles in the Glorious Quran.  They were about the validity of the Holy Book.  The validity of the Holy Quran, and the proof that It is Divine and the Truth of Allah Almighty is beyond question at this point.  No Geschwind syndrome is applicable to the Divine Revelations of the Holy Quran, and I've given you the proofs that the Holy Quran is not just a book of stories and claims that can not be substantiated.  The Overwhelming Miracles in the Holy Quran testify to Its Divinity.  You rejecting this without any solid proof, and you washing it all aside as under the so-called "Geschwind syndrome" simply has no value in it to any Believing Muslim.  Come and refute the Scientific Miracles of the Holy Quran and then you'll have a point.  If you'd like, we can discuss them one at a time.  So feel free to bring your best one and we'll discuss it.

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An angry and reactive attitude usually does not help in understanding the subtelties of an argument.

No anger here.  Just a simple response.

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However, I will follow your advice, and look for a community that better suits my values and attitude.

Have it your way.  But I was hoping to discuss with you something about Science in the Glorious Quran than empty charges on the Prophet of Islam, peace be upon him.  Your charges about the Geschwind syndrome are nothing but a theory from the anti-Islamics against the Prophet of Islam.  My argument is, however, is giving you irrefutable facts that testify to the Truth of our Glorious Quran from the Glorious Quran.  If you strongly disagree with this, then I'd like to see your best example about this.  Bring them one at a time, and let us discuss them.  Otherwise, you have nothing but an empty theory my friend, at least to the Believing Muslims.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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##### Quran Scientific Miracles & Islam's Prophecies (in Hadiths and Quran) / Re: The Quran, a miracle/sign: in which sense? epilepsy?
« on: September 05, 2012, 10:17:07 AM »
Peace be upon you Mokko,

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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##### Quran Morality and Moral Code, Laws & QA / Re: Are there more "messengers of Allah"?
« on: September 05, 2012, 10:11:31 AM »
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Since the "epilepsy explanation" of Allah's revelation has not been rejected yet (see my older post), here is an interesting question:

do you accept that Ellen G. White (7th day adventist), whose case looks similar, but in the 19th century, also received her revelation from Allah?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspiration_of_Ellen_White

Mr. Mokko,

Ignoring you is not an automatic concede to the validity of your arguments.  It's just that no one here really cares about these old lame and boring arguments that are presented by agnostics and atheists and Islamophobes.  The Glorious Quran is the Divine Miracle of Allah Almighty.  There are ample irrefutable Overwhelming Scientific Notions and Statements in the Holy Quran that I challenge you to refute.  The best you will ever do (because I've debated the likes of you before including the notorious agnostic Denis Giron) is cast doubts about the Noble Verses, or try to say something like "is it possible that it means something else".  The silencer to such lame and superficial arguments is not only in producing ample definitions, quotations from proverbs and sayings that even pre-date Islam, that demonstrate the meaning of the certain Noble Words in the Holy Quran using  encyclopedic Arabic dictionaries such as Lisan Al-Arab and others as I have thoroughly used, but the Numerical Miracles of the Holy Quran further prove the Holy Book's Divine Structure, and how every Word counts and was placed in its specific position for a Divine Reason.  The reader can visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links to begin to study the many Overwhelming Scientific Miracles in the Glorious Quran.  And the list is growing.

To make it abundantly clear to you, Mokko, I certainly believe in the following:

1-  Allah Almighty is the Absolute One and Sovereign LORD and Creator of the Universe.

2-  Prophet Muhammad is Allah Almighty's Messenger and Prophet.

3-  The Glorious Quran is the Divine Book and Word of Allah Almighty.

4-  Islam is the Divine Truth and Faith and Creed and Religion of Allah Almighty that He sent to mankind, and to restore the original Faith, which was called "Islam".

And as always Mokko, please feel free to speak you mind as free as you want, as long as the words are dictionary-approved, and I am sure you're a proper person yourself.  I just want to make it clear that me disagreeing with someone, even strongly, is not a sign or warning for them to be banned.  I don't operate like this.  I go after the arguments, and not the individuals.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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##### Quran Scientific Miracles & Islam's Prophecies (in Hadiths and Quran) / Re: sura 13:3
« on: September 04, 2012, 03:40:06 PM »
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salaam brother Abdallah , i thank for responding to me previously

My question now is does sura 13:3 says fruits have pairs

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Jesus and Everyone,

Your welcome brother.  I thank Allah Almighty that you found your answer in my previous post.  Insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing), you will find all of your answers regarding Islam and become a strong Believer some day.  Ameen.

Now in regards to your question, Allah Almighty Said the following:

1-  Everything was made in pairs (‏51:49 ومن كل شئ خلقنا زوجين لعلكم تذكرون ).

2-  All plants are made in pairs, or made/born/created from pairs (ومن كل الثمرات جعل فيها زوجين اثنين).  See Noble Verses: 13:3, 20:53, 22:5, 26:7, 31:10, 36:36.

It is Scientifically established that fruits are made from fertilization of male and female gametes.  Now the word فيها , which was used in Noble Verse 13:3 means "in".  So, the Noble Verse could be simply referring to the male and female gametes.  It's not saying that the fruit itself is either a male or a female.  It's saying that Allah Almighty made into the fruit a pair, which means that the fruit was formed from a pair (a male and female gametes).

This is like saying that male and female sperms were made into Osama Abdallah.  This is scientifically true, since the male's gushing semen does contain male and female sperms in it, and this is where the sex of the baby is determined by the man, as you know.  The statement doesn't say that Osama Abdallah is both a male and female, or is a female only, or even is a male only.  It's just simply saying that Osama Abdallah has male and female sperms in him.  That's all.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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##### Bible History, Canons, alleged Lost Scriptures, alleged Contradictions & Errors, and general Text QA / Re: My 1st study "Origin of christianity,NT quoutations of the OT is the key"
« on: September 04, 2012, 01:30:10 PM »
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peace bro QuranSearchCom , Muslims never banged their heads, even so for minute ,on whether Christ was placed on the cross or not ,from the beginning of Islam , till the last few decades when the deviant Qadini sect , propagated that the swoon theory (that rare readers to the new testament suggest) ,could also be applied to the Quran...

The Qadiani sect banged the heads of Orthodox Muslims with such theory , the danger of such theory is not questioning a specific Hadith or a tradition ,but pervert the meaning of a noble verse ,that is why it must be exposed and refuted without tolerance.

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

Please pardon my ignorance in this, but do we have Hadiths that clearly spell out what happened to Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him?  I haven't read any Hadith on this.  But I also didn't research it hard enough either.

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I hope my criticism is not offending anyone , but when it comes to the Quran,the matter is so serious.

Nothing offensive dear brother.  Feel free to speak your mind, freely.  This forum is for all brothers and sisters and non-Muslims to speak their minds, freely.  We're here to discuss and to get closer to the Truth, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).

Take care akhi (brother),
Osama Abdallah

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##### Bible History, Canons, alleged Lost Scriptures, alleged Contradictions & Errors, and general Text QA / Re: My 1st study "Origin of christianity,NT quoutations of the OT is the key"
« on: September 04, 2012, 11:44:15 AM »
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I mentioned in previous post ,some examples of the verb used In Arabic doesn't denote automatically a death on a cross , but only hoisting or being hoisted up on a cross or plank or pole for the purpose of defamation and humiliation. so no need here to repeat ...
If the verse 4:157"they neither killed him NOR CRUCIFIED him"

said only "they didn't kill him " then the door is open for speculations (which remain speculations till ether supported by the Qur'an or historical eyewitnesses testimony) ...

but the verse adds to "killed" the verb "crucify" ,to say that not only they didn't kill him but also didn't bound his stretched hands and feet aka crucified him

As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers and sisters,

I just wanted to share my thoughts on Noble Verse 4:157:

1-  It is clear from the Glorious Quran that Jesus Christ was "neither killed nor crucified".

2-  It is also clear from the end of Noble Verse 4:157 that the Jews didn't kill Jesus Christ with clear certainty (wa ma qataloohu yaqeena).  In other words, it could mean that they thought he died when he was still alive.

To me, the Noble Verse could mean that Christ was actually put on the cross.  When Allah Almighty said that they neither crucified him nor killed him, the Noble Verse could mean that Christ not killed on the cross, nor was he killed by any other mean such as stabbing (In the Bible's New Testament, Christ did get pierced while on the cross).  Now, we Muslims also believe that the entire Bible is full of corruption.  Even the Bible's own theologians admit that most of its books and gospels were written by unknown people, in unknown dates and unknown places.  Please visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm.

3-  Yet, according to the Bible itself in Isaiah 53, Psalm 91 and Psalm 116 and Psalm 118, Christ will be honored, protected from harm, no harm will come upon him, the Angels will come down to protect him and lift him up from all harm, and GOD Almighty will hear his prayers and will protect him and not have him get hurt.  Please visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_53.htm for ample proofs.

Whatever took place and however you look at it, the final conclusion that you can always draw from reading even the Bible is that Jesus Christ did not die on the cross.  Period.  This I believe is a clear-cut fact as also Dr. Zakir Naik has thoroughly demonstrated in the link that I gave in the previous post above, which is also linked at the top of this article that I linked in this post as well.  I don't think we, the Muslims, should bang our heads too much on whether Christ was placed on the cross or not.   There is also, from the Bible, clear evidence that Christ might have been replaced by the other "Jesus son of his father" (Jesus Barraba) by Pilate.  So it's also possible that Christ was never put on the cross.  But like I said, whether he was put or not, even from the Bible alone we can easily draw a strong conclusion that Christ never died on the cross.  Visit the link that I gave for more details and proofs.

May Allah Almighty bless you.  Ameen.

Osama Abdallah

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##### Quran Morality and Moral Code, Laws & QA / Re: Marrying pre pubertal girls sura 65:4
« on: August 31, 2012, 09:24:02 AM »
Peace be upon you Jesus,

Please visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/minimum_age_for_marriage.htm (What is the minimum age for marriage in Islam?).  In Main Section #6 in the article, I posted a debate that I had with a Christian regarding Noble Verse 65:4 that you mentioned.

In a nutshell, there is no specific magical number for minimum age for marriage in Islam, where one day younger makes the person prohibited to marry.  Rather, the Glorious Quran, in the Noble Verses that I provided in the article, makes it abundantly clear that

1- INFANTS
2- BABIES
3- CHILDREN
4- And even incapable teenagers who are not fully grown up based on what the current life requires

Are not permitted to marry.

Here are the article's main sections:

1-  Children must reach ashuddah (full strength and growth) and adulthood.

2-  Children reaching "the age of marriage" in Noble Verse 4:6.

3-  Female-children becoming fataaya (young ladies) become ready to be "wed" (4:25).

4-  Wisdom and Knowledge from Allah Almighty came after ashuddah.

6-  What about Noble Verse 65:4?  Does it not allow marriage with children?  (A conversation between me and a Christian)

7-  Prophet Muhammad's advise to "O young grown-ups (shabab)" (يا معشر الشباب) for marriage.

Another article worth visiting is: http://www.answering-christianity.com/aisha.htm.  In it, you'll also see that Mary, peace be upon her, was as young as 11 when she had Jesus Christ.  This means that she was as young as 10 when she got pregnant.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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##### GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Make Suggestions to Answering Christianity Website.
« on: August 30, 2012, 11:23:43 PM »
Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother Abd-Al-Rahman,

Thank you dear brother for the PM and email.  Yes, I got them, and I sincerely apologize for not getting back to you.  I've been swamped with so many things.  I will most definitely use your valuable information on the 'Bee Miracle' article, insha'Allah, dear brother.  Thank you for all of the information.  I greatly appreciate it, akhi (brother).

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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##### GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: http://www.answering-christianity.com/whatsnew.htm
« on: August 30, 2012, 07:57:22 PM »
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Thank you dear brother!  .

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##### Bible History, Canons, alleged Lost Scriptures, alleged Contradictions & Errors, and general Text QA / Re: Jesus' temptation for 40 days and 40 nights was also Coveting!
« on: August 29, 2012, 04:39:31 PM »
Good point dear brother 'Final Overture'.  Christ can not be GOD Almighty, the Creator of the Universe, in light of the following verse and many other verses from the Bible:

""Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is goodâ€“except God alone."  (From the NIV Bible, Mark 10:18)"

Osama Abdallah

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##### Bible History, Canons, alleged Lost Scriptures, alleged Contradictions & Errors, and general Text QA / Re: Jesus' temptation for 40 days and 40 nights was also Coveting!
« on: August 29, 2012, 12:23:31 PM »
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I'm not quite sure where you would get the presumption that Jesus coveted from these verses.

Peace be upon you pianoxtreme99,

I got it from the fact that Jesus Christ, according to the NT, was between GOD and satan for 40 days and 40 nights.  That's a lot of time for temptation.  And yes, while Christ, the Prophet of Allah Almighty, didn't commit the sins that satan wanted him to commit, but he still coveted, because it took him a very long time to overcome satan's temptation.  I don't know how you would feel if your wife was between you and another man for 40 days and 40 nights.

What kind of a GOD is Jesus Christ, anyway, when the Bible clearly says that GOD Almighty can not be tempted.  Yet, Jesus was very badly tempted for 40 days and 40 nights by satan.

Jesus was not GOD Almighty, nor was he perfect.  He was a creation of GOD Almighty and he wasn't perfect.  He was GOD Almighty's Messenger and Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him and upon all of the Prophets and Messengers of GOD Almighty.  Ameen.

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Answer to you: Jesus is the son of God, he does not sin nor desire sin; it is revolting to Him. For example, if you tempt me with a plate of manure, tempting me for a day, a week, 23 days or even 40 days isn't going to increase my desire to eat the plate of manure. Jesus was tempted to sin, but he did not covet after the sin. Again, Hebrews 4:15. According to the Bible, Christ was sinless and perfect.

You are clearly confused between being actually tempted, and someone trying to tempt you while you're not interested.  In order for you to be tempted, you have to have an interest or desire in the thing that you're being tempted on.  This is why Jesus Christ, because of his temptation, had "evil desires" in him, and felt spiritually "weak", and got very weak that Angels had to come down to spiritually "attend him".  And he's the same person who said that if your eye sins then pluck it out, and if your hand sins then cut it off and throw it away.  Yet, satan was able to scramble his desires for 40 days and 40 nights.  If that is not coveting, pianoxtreme99, then what is it then?  Please visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/satanic_verses.htm.

Furthermore, in order for you to be tempted in something, you have to have a desire and wish of having it.  The Catholic Priests who supposedly stay virgins are constantly tempted to have sex (either with children, women or other men).  Many of them resist it and many of them fail and commit the sexual sin.  Those who failed failed because they already had the urge in them.   Temptation just simply paved the way for them to commit the sin.  But have they not had any desire in having sex (as humans we all have that desire) then they would not be tempted.

To put it more simply and clearly for you, pianoxtreme99, I may be able to tempt you to have sex with a woman, because deep inside you you may be dying to have her, and we both may happen to know her in person, and she's single and she has an great interest in you, and in your head you'd be thinking about it, but I most definitely won't be able to tempt you to eat a rotten, dead and stinking cat that is laying on the side of a road, because you most certainly don't have that desire and urge to eat that disgusting thing.  Let alone you taking 40 days and 40 nights to think about it.  And Christ supposedly came from Heaven.  Therefore, nothing on this earth should tempt him for 1 second, let alone for 40 days and 40 nights.  My apologies to the reader if my example sounded disgusting.  I was just making a point that demonstrates the difference between actually being tempted, and someone trying to tempt you on something that you would never be tempted on.

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Again, Hebrews 4:15. According to the Bible, Christ was sinless and perfect.

Frankly, I don't care what the man-made Hebrews 4:15 says, because the evidence is overwhelmingly clear about Jesus Christ being tempted very badly by satan, and him being between GOD and satan for 40 days and 40 nights.  Yes, to me that is coveting.  And coveting is one of the Bible Old Testament's moral sins.  Again, I am not saying that Christ was evil here.  But he certainly wasn't perfect nor sinless.  And most importantly, he is not, was not and can not be GOD Almighty, the Creator of the Universe.  Saying he was is a clear blasphemy.

Please visit: visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm to see how most of the Bible was not only written by ordinary men who were not chosen by GOD Almighty, but they were also mysterious and unknown authors.  The books were also written in unknown dates and unknown lands.  And they're full of contradictions as this link clearly demonstrates.

I hope this makes it abundantly clear for you.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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##### Quran Morality and Moral Code, Laws & QA / Re: Where can I find a refutation of Wikiislam?
« on: August 29, 2012, 09:16:14 AM »
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I am looking for a refutation of some arguments found on the Wikiislam website. I am especially interested to find refutation of those arguments:

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Is_the_Quran_from_God%3F

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_errors_in_the_Quran

I want a refutation that addresses the substantive truth or falsehood of a matter.

Peace be upon you Mokko,

I've gone through much of the lists in the links that you gave above, I tell you that at least 90% if not 100% of them were answered on http://www.answering-christianity.com.

I really don't feel it is necessary to list each point and the link of the article that directly refutes it.  I'll leave that to the reader to sort through.  Our website has literally 1,000s of articles and rebuttals.  There are well over 1,000 rebuttals to direct attacks on Islam on the website.  And your links above give at least 200 points against Islam.  It'll be massive to list each one of them here and the link that refutes it.

Therefore Mokko, like brother Egyptian suggested above, can you please list your top 5 to 10 points that you feel should be a concern to Muslims regarding Islam?  I think this will be far more realistic and will enable us to engage the topics in more details and more fairly.

I look forward to interacting with you on this.

Thanks,
Osama Abdallah

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##### Bible History, Canons, alleged Lost Scriptures, alleged Contradictions & Errors, and general Text QA / Re: My 1st study "Origin of christianity,NT quoutations of the OT is the key"
« on: August 27, 2012, 01:18:38 AM »
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Thank you bro Osama for uploading that debate...I haven't watched it yet ...

but as a matter of fact ,I find a surprising description " Dr. Zakir Naik where he thoroughly demonstrated from the Bible's New Testament that Jesus Christ was never crucified, nor did he ever rise from the dead."

with such description ,I guess I will have a critical word against Dr Naik's approach in that debate.
let me first watch it inshallah....

Thanx again brother Osama ,for your never ending efforts.

Assalamualaikom.

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

Yes, Dr. Zakir Naik demonstrated very thoroughly from the NT that Christ never died on the cross.  And he also never resurrected from the dead either.  IN fact, he challenged Christians to show one verse where it says that Jesus Christ resurrected from the dead.  Yes, that boldly.   I know, it sounds surprising, but seriously, the brother did an awsome job demonstrating his points.

May Allah Almighty bless you akhi.  Yes, please watch the debate .