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There is only one God:
Dajjal is not a literal person. It is a warning about religions other than Islam (95% of other religions are derived from Horus). It is really sad that Adnaanshaikh195 doesn't see it and resort to useless illogical arguments like "oooh bogus look spreading misinformation scholars don't agree" well guess what? Think for yourself! The scholars think it's gonna be this one eyed alien with a magic rod that will hypnotize everyone and control weather while no one is noticing! Well, there's too much shirk in there. Only God is omnipresent, I do not see how you can believe Dajjal will be 'everywhere' as a single person. Isn't God also anthropomorphized in the Qur'an? It's so it makes sense to people who don't understand! Oh and if anyone wants to criticize, please keep it to constructive criticism, not useless nonsense like "seriously, stop with your sh***y theories"
Let's take a look at all the 'prophecies' about Dajjal to prove my point!

*Cue dramatic music, possibly thriller?*
Narrated Ibn Umar:
Once Allah's Apostle stood amongst the people, glorified and praised Allah as He deserved and then mentioned the Dajjal saying, "l [sic] warn you against him (i.e. the Dajjal) and there was no prophet but warned his nation against him. No doubt, Noah warned his nation against him but I tell you about him something of which no prophet told his nation before me. You should know that he is one-eyed, and Allah is not one-eyed. (Sahih Bukhari 4.553. Also, Sahih Bukhari 4.553, Sahih Muslim 41.7000, Sunan Abu Dawud 37.4318, etc).

He IS one eyed, meaning present tense, it's NOT a prophecy of the future.
Now one eyed, hmm let's see. Where do we see the one-eyed symbolism? Oh yea..

I've already explained this in other posts. The eye obviously belongs to Horus, an ancient Egyptian personification (anthropomorphism) of the sun. The pyramid is clearly Egyptian. There are 13 layers on the pyramid. This represents Horus and his 12 apostles.
The Roman numerals at the bottom of the pyramid are 1776, the year the 'establishment' took place. The text at the top is Annuit cœptis (also composed of 13 letters), which means 'undertaking/establishment approved' (in other words, mission accomplished). At the bottom it says 'Novus Ordo Seclorum', Novus means 'new', 'ordos' means order, 'seclorum' means world. So rearranged in English, it's a new world order.
One example should suffice. I'm not gonna go into details of the great seal, don't bother looking it up, you won't need it.
Oh and about the one eye, Horus' left eye represents the sun, and the right eye represents the moon. Moon worship died out in the past, but Sun worship, you have no idea..

Moving on...

Next one says he will be red skinned:
'Abdullah reported on the authority of his father 'Umar b. Khattab that he heard from the Messenger of Allah (may peace he upon him) say: I was sleeping when I saw myself making circuit around the Ka'bah, and I saw there a man of fair complexion with straight hair between two men. Water was flowing from his head or water was falling from his head. I said: Who is he? They answered: He is the son of Mary. Then I moved forward and cast a glance and there was a bulky man of red complexion with thick locks of hair on his head, blind of one eye as it his eye was a swollen grape. I asked: Who is he? They said: He is Dajjal. He had close resemblance with Ibn Qatan amongst men. (Sahih Muslim 1.327)

It's obvious here that the guy just pointed to an ancient Egyptian painting of Horus, being red skinned. That's why they were all "who's that? Dajjal. Oh, looks like my friend Ibn Qatan. Hey, isn't that the son of Mary [Jesus]?"
See, this verse points out two things in an obvious manner:
1) Horus
2) Horus disguised as Jesus (hence the son of Mary)

Here, red skinned, with only one eye visible:

Horus chilling with 12 disciples, one of them being Scorpio (Judas), which 'betrays' the sun.

Next: The believers will be able to 'read the kufr on his forehead'. Clever metaphor for people like me, who can already see through the deception.
Ibn Shihab said: 'Umar b. Thabit al-Ansari informed me that some of the Companions of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) informed him that the day when Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) warned people against the Dajjal, he also said: There would be written between his two eyes (the word) Kafir (infidel) and everyone who would resent his deeds would be able to read or every Muslim would be about to read, and he also said: Bear this thing in mind that none amongst you would be able to see Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, until he dies. (Sahih Muslim 41.7000)

The ones that come now are the more obvious ones. They share amazing parallels with Horus.

* Resurrecting the dead - Horus could 'resurrect the dead (crops)'. Obviously if you take the hadith on this literally (Sahih Bukhari 3.106) you are committing shirk. Christian Jesus could resurrect the dead, remember?
* Travels in the clouds - Various references in the bible point to the claim that the lord travels 'in the clouds, and every eye shall see him'. Can't get more obvious than Horus in the clouds (The sun appears to be moving)
* Weather control - One of the more obvious ones. When the Sun has fewer sunspots, it gives off less energy, less energy makes its way to Earth, and our planet cools down.

We now come to the conclusion that Dajjal = the mass deception led by Christianity

To further support my claim:
He would come to the people and invite them (to a wrong religion) and they would affirm their faith in him and respond to him. (Sahih Muslim 41.7015)
Christians aren't allowed to enter Mecca/Medina today.
He would come but would not be allowed to ether the mountain passes to Medina. (Sahih Muslim 41.7017)

Isa (PBUH) will metaphorically 'kill' the deception (Dajjal) by 'breaking the cross', or by telling the Christians he wasn't divine, he wasn't really the son of God.
     When the enemy of Allah would see him, it would (disappear) just as the salt dissolves itself in water and if he (Jesus) were not to confront them at all, even then it would dissolve completely, but Allah would kill them by his hand and he would show them their blood on his lance (the lance of Jesus Christ). (Sahih Muslim 41.6924)

Lmao, I will prove you wrong, and refute everything I will say, I hate it when 'new converts' try to tell other muslims and interpret ahadith in their way, even though the points given are a load of crap. I will make a new topic.

I actually made a wall of text before, but I did something wrong, So i lost it all, and was not bothered to retry to gather it all.

Asalamwalaikum warahmatullah

Brother, the Dajjal is 100% a real person.  He is someone that will come to us in the future first calling himself a savior, then a messenger, and then god himself.  Allah will give him the abilities to control weather, cure incurable diseases and bring the dead back to life.  Everyone agrees that he is a person and he will appear in the future.

There is only one God:

--- Quote from: DrShaFi on January 23, 2013, 11:46:55 PM ---Asalamwalaikum warahmatullah

Brother, the Dajjal is 100% a real person.  He is someone that will come to us in the future first calling himself a savior, then a messenger, and then god himself.  Allah will give him the abilities to control weather, cure incurable diseases and bring the dead back to life.  Everyone agrees that he is a person and he will appear in the future.

--- End quote ---

All characteristics of Horus

everyone is entitled to their own opinion, we are all muslims after all.


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