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Antiaparteid:
Every muslim should find out for him/herself what islam really mean; and what it means to be muslim.
Every muslim women must ask, herself and allah, if being muslim means getting half a man's share; being rendered being half mentally adept; having to share a husband; etc. If allah could bless marium with a son immaculately, how much more can he bless you as a woman? With allah, anything is possible. We, as women don't have to submit to men. Only submit to allah. He could if he wanted give you a child without using a man's sperm; give you food in abundance without your having ever worked a day in your life or having been someone's wife. Amin.
Muslims like to ask christians questions, to question christianity. But, muslims should question muslims about islam. Question the dictatorship. Question the discrimination. Question the bloodshed. Question the poverty. Question the characters of the muslim scholars.
Egyptian:
--- Quote from: Antiaparteid on September 17, 2012, 01:35:29 AM ---Every muslim should find out for him/herself what islam really mean; and what it means to be muslim.
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without having Islamic educational background ,one could find out ,Islam of his/her own imagination.
--- Quote from: Antiaparteid on September 17, 2012, 01:35:29 AM ---Every muslim women must ask, herself and allah, if being muslim means getting half a man's share
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well,
--- Quote from: Sherif Muhammad Kingston, University of Essex Islamic Society
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FEMALE INHERITANCE
One of the most important differences between the Quran and the Bible is their attitude towards female inheritance of the property of a deceased relative.The Biblical attitude has been succinctly described by Rabbi Epstein: "The continuous and unbroken tradition since the Biblical days gives the female members of the household, wife and daughters, no right of succession to the family estate. In the more primitive scheme of succession, the female members of the family were considered part of the estate and as remote from the legal personality of an heir as the slave. Whereas by Mosaic enactment the daughters were admitted to succession in the event of no male issue remained, the wife was not recognized as heir even in such conditions." Why were the female members of the family considered part of the family estate? Rabbi Epstein has the answer:
"They are owned --before marriage, by the father; after marriage, by the husband." The Biblical rules of inheritance are outlined in Numbers 27:1-11. A wife is given no share in her husband's estate, while he is her first heir, even before her sons. A daughter can inherit only if no male heirs exist. A mother is not an heir at all while the father is. Widows and daughters, in case male children remained, were at the mercy of the male heirs for provision. That is why widows and orphan girls were among the most destitute members of the Jewish society.Christianity has followed suit for long time. Both the ecclesiastical and civil laws of Christendom barred daughters from sharing with their brothers in the father's patrimony. Besides, wives were deprived of any inheritance rights. These iniquitous laws survived till late in the last century.Among the pagan Arabs before Islam, inheritance rights were confined exclusively to the male relatives. The Quran abolished all these unjust customs and gave all the female relatives inheritance shares:"From what is left by parents and those nearest related there is a share for men and a share for women, whether the property be small or large --a determinate share" (4:7).Muslim mothers, wives, daughters, and sisters had received inheritance rights thirteen hundred years before Europe recognized that these rights even existed. The division of inheritance is a vast subject with an enormous amount of details (4:7,11,12,176).The general rule is that the female share is half the male's except the cases in which the mother receives equal share to that of the father. This general rule if taken in isolation from other legislations concerning men and women may seem unfair. In order to understand the rationale behind this rule, one must take into account the fact that the financial obligations of men in Islam far exceed those of women .A bridegroom must provide his bride with a marriage gift. This gift becomes her exclusive property and remains so even if she is later divorced. The bride is under no obligation to present any gifts to her groom.
Moreover, the Muslim husband is charged with the maintenance of his wife and children. The wife, on the other hand, is not obliged to help him in this regard. Her property and earnings are for her use alone except what she may voluntarily offer her husband.
Besides, one has to realize that Islam vehemently advocates family life. It strongly encourages youth to get married, discourages divorce, and does not regard celibacy as a virtue. Therefore, in a truly Islamic society, family life is the norm and single life is the rare exception. That is, almost all marriage-aged women and men are married in an Islamic society. In light of these facts, one would appreciate that Muslim men, in general, have greater financial burdens than Muslim women and thus inheritance rules are meant to offset this imbalance so that the society lives free of all gender or class wars. After a simple comparison between the financial rights and duties of Muslim women, one British Muslim woman has concluded that Islam has treated women not only fairly but generously.
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Professor Almaric Rumsey (1825–1899) from King's College, University of London, wrote in one of his many legal books, "[the Muslim law of inheritance] comprises beyond question the most refined and elaborate system of rules for the devolution of property that is known to the civilized world."
--- Quote from: Antiaparteid
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No where in the Qur'an or sunna describing women as less intelligent than men ...
--- Quote from: Antiaparteid on September 17, 2012, 01:35:29 AM --- having to share a husband
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In the Quran ,there is no textual obligation on man or woman to marry ....
but if you won't marry how would a man or a woman satisfies their nature? the desire, especially for women to have children? and more important of all that ,to dwell in tranquillity ,the feeling of someone beside you whom you share your happiness and pain ?
--- Quote from: Antiaparteid on September 17, 2012, 01:35:29 AM --- If allah could bless marium with a son immaculately
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That is the tone of those who consider the sexual intercourse to be base or bad,even if legal !!!
Having Jesus immaculately,was not a message to Mariam that God blessed her (during delivery she wished that she had died before this! would that she had been a thing forgotten and out of sight! [19:23]" ,but a message to the Jews that the miracles with that messenger ,will be in action, from the time of his very beginning,till the end of his mission "raised up to heaven"......
--- Quote from: Antiaparteid on September 17, 2012, 01:35:29 AM ---
He could if he wanted give you a child without using a man's sperm; give you food in abundance without your having ever worked a day in your life or having been someone's wife.
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Antiaparteid , from the way to talk,I began to suggest that you are most probably a woman , and you suffer from psychological problem ....
don't be offended ,I'm very honest with you ,I had some readings in psychology ,and your constant complaining ,unexpected and unfocused lines , show that you are in trouble and you suffered from bad experience with the society , and you feel that you less loved by the people ,you deserve to be treated better etc.....
most of those people who suffer from that,are those sensitive of criticism even if positive, often critical making harsh unexpected comments forcing the people to break away with them..
Antiaparteid , the concept of having a life without work ,is not a far-fetched one, but it comes after the test we are having in that earthly short life.... paradise is waiting those who deserve.
also you think it would have been better if women could have had babes without men's sperm or having been someone's wife !!!!
hey Antiaparteid , man means more for woman that just a penis,sperm and some money he may spend..... all world's treasures won't compensate a woman for the lack of a man she loves,and vice verse... most women will agree with me...
Holy Quran 30:21 And among His Signs is this, that He created for you mates from among yourselves, that ye may dwell in tranquillity with them, and He has put love and mercy between your (hearts): verily in that are Signs for those who reflect.
Antiaparteid dwelling in tranquillity , be loved ,is what you lack .. criticizing the people and the religions is not your cure ...
how many good people you know ,that deserve your praise ? why don't you pick your phone calling them ? plz do it now....
Antiaparteid:
"Stupid", you may call me. Or, uneducated, or something. But, don't bloody say I have psychological problems. That's getting personal. And, here I was, thinking that, this forum was against personal attacks! Hmm? Makes one wonder.
This thread isn't about being against men. It's about getting people to think...
And yes, men aren't just sperm and penis. Men are like you. Do you realise what you've done to me? The way you've responded to my post is typical of muslim men. Every time a woman says something that suggests free thinking, a muslim man will react as you have been reacting to many of my posts.
There is a trend among the muslim males. The trend is to obscure the qur'an and hadith to make women feel inadequate and helpless without men. Is islam about this kind of indoctrination?
I would've like women to respond to my post--not some sexist muslim male.
FYI, even the quran says that marium had a baby by the word of Allah. Unless the "Glorious Qur'an" says otherwise. Lol! How many types of qur'an are there? Let's see: the noble qur'an, the holy qur'an, the glorious qur'an,... What's next?
And by the way, I think I'll live harmoniously, married to an atheist. At least he'd respect my human and civil rights. And we'd make our own rules. I'd rather die than be with a man who quotes from some qur'an how he should undermine me.
Final Overture:
Wow, calling your brother in faith just sperm and penis.. Aren't you ashamed of your words?
--- Quote ---I'd rather die than be with a man who quotes from some qur'an how he should undermine me.
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Wow, really?
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah 's Apostle said, "Treat women nicely, for a women is created from a rib, and the most curved portion of the rib is its upper portion, so, if you should try to straighten it, it will break, but if you leave it as it is, it will remain crooked. So treat women nicely."
Bukhari USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 548
There is no path between belief and unbelief.
Abd-Al-Rahman:
--- Quote --- "Stupid", you may call me.
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Glad you spared the trouble for anyone to have to do it. I seriously mean this one.
--- Quote --- Or, uneducated, or something. But, don't bloody say I have psychological problems. That's getting personal. And, here I was, thinking that, this forum was against personal attacks! Hmm? Makes one wonder.
This thread isn't about being against men. It's about getting people to think...
And yes, men aren't just sperm and penis. Men are like you. Do you realise what you've done to me? The way you've responded to my post is typical of muslim men. Every time a woman says something that suggests free thinking, a muslim man will react as you have been reacting to many of my posts.
There is a trend among the muslim males. The trend is to obscure the qur'an and hadith to make women feel inadequate and helpless without men. Is islam about this kind of indoctrination?
I would've like women to respond to my post--not some sexist muslim male.
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Also really glad that you’re one of the very few to stand up for the severely, no I mean extremely, and very obviously, repressed and abused rights of Muslim women, as well as women in general, all over the world. That’s super.
--- Quote --- FYI, even the quran says that marium had a baby by the word of Allah. Unless the "Glorious Qur'an" says otherwise.
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That’s correct, yes. And brother Egyptian never denied that fact either, you’re obviously just hallucinating things.
--- Quote --- Lol! How many types of qur'an are there? Let's see: the noble qur'an, the holy qur'an, the glorious qur'an,... What's next?
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This simply just has got to be an intentional joke ;D If not, either way, thanks for the laugh, now that’s one of the very few good ones that you can find out there ;D
What’s next you ask? That’s your choice really, but you may also try saying something like “Lol! How many gods do Muslims worship? Let’s see: [here you would start listing out 1-99 gods, if you catch my drift]''.
--- Quote --- And by the way, I think I'll live harmoniously, married to an atheist. At least he'd respect my human and civil rights. And we'd make our own rules. I'd rather die than be with a man who quotes from some qur'an how he should undermine me.
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It’s nice of you to have taken the time to make this specification.
There isn’t much left for me to say now, other than good luck.
You may need it.
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