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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / is there any authenticity to this
« on: November 20, 2013, 03:12:53 PM »
is there any authenticity   the the 2nd temple in jeruslam believed the messiah to be divinve and god in the flesh

here is the site http://www.kesherjournal.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=132&Itemid=426

http://www.callingmuslims.com/2013/11/1-peter-315-and-deity-of-jesus-christ.html

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ive been on the deen since 2011

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Assalam alykam can some one with good knowledge refute this

http://www.bibleprobe.com/muhammad.htm

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Assalam alykam

can somone please  watch this video and give a good refutation  on every point please



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKt8xSEWnkE

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Assalam alykam Osma can you please

refute these claims
  can you please give me more information about this

  as you know   christians try to use the book of revelation prophecies

regarding  anti christ and false prophet

they say its isa pbuh and imam mahdi

here is a video of a Muslim brother talking about the coming of Isa pbuh and imam mahdi and the dajjal  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3hNuI-mgBM


christians try to fit what it says in revelation with  Islamic prophecies 

 they try to say  the beast is Isa and the imam mahdi is the dajjal  or they say that one is the false prophet and one is the anti christ mentioned in revelation

ive seen the refutation to this on AC already

in our islamic prophercy  Isa will annoint people on the forhead as mentioned in the video above 

they say Musilms will be fighting the Jesus of the bible and thinking they are fighting the anti christ,,  they say this because  they say why would Jesus fight against Israel and they say God is coming back

is the book of revelation just hearsay  is there any truth in the book of revelation  or is it just some one on a  acid trip writing a book  ???     why do Christians believe in it so much ???

they say Jesus speaks through book of revelation   

i know a little bit of knowledge on the history  of book of revelation


their  strong argument hey use is that the book of revelation  mentions a religous leader is the anti christ and they say the muslim leader has similarities  and characteristics as imam mahdi

 where do they get this information ???    what is the best way to shut them up

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Assalam alykam  here is a question i asked a Jew

did the disciples believe Jesus was God???

he replied

"did the disciples of Jesus believe that Jesus is the creator and that the Messiah is God in the flesh?", the answer is : absolutely not. They were all Jews who believed that Jesus was a God-inspired teacher whose teaching was 100% consistent with Torah and whose teaching would help Israel and the world follow God's commandments so that God's Kingdom could become a reality.

You also said : "Us Muslims say he is the word of God or the spirit from God. Some Christians say that some Jews believe this..??? can you tell me where they got this concept of Jesus being God ??" Our answer on this is as follows:
- We didn't know that Muslims believe that Jesus is "the word of God or the spirit from God". For sure Muslims believe that Jesus was NOT God.
- Judaism believes that God can manifest in many ways (remember when God showed Himself to Abraham as one of the three visitors before the destruction of Sdom and Gmorrah?, or when God appeared like a angel who wrestled with Jacob and dislocated Jacob's hip? or when God appeared to Moses like a voice from a burning bush?). BUT Jews are not allowed to approach God thru any type of manifestation, even if that was a actual true manifestation of God. So even if God appears to Moses as a burning bush, Jews are forbidden to think of God as a burning bush. Or if God appears to Abraham as a visitor, Jews are forbidden to think of God as a human. Jews likewise don't have a problem believing a Hindu if a Hindu says that God manifested to him as a person called Krishna. And Jews don't have a problem believe a Christian if the Christian says that God manifested to him thru the human called Jesus. After all, if God manifested as a burning bush or a angel wrestling Jacob or a visitor to Abraham, why couldn't God manifest as other things to other people ? BUT Jews are not allowed to think of God by depicting any manifestation that God may have appeared under. After all those were just manifestations. Jews, like Muslims, are required to reach out to God without using or depicting anything created. That may be ok for Hindus to reach out to God thru Krishna, or for Christians to reach out to God thru Jesus. But it's not ok for Jews or Muslims.

- Regarding, "where did Christians get the concept of Jesus being a manifestation of God?". The answer is: from two places: (a) Platonism, and (b) Greek and Persian Mithology.
In Platonism, Plato correctly says that God is the creator of EVERYTHING, and therefore God can not be anything of this world. For example, one can not say "God is generous" because invented Generosity and can not be limited by that. All you can say is "God has been generous to me", but you can not limit God by saying that God is this or that. So then Plato asks this question: "If God is nothing of this world, then how is it that God can influence the world without being "in" the world?". Plato answered this question as follows: "God has a Tool that He uses to influence things in the created world. This Tool allows God to stay removed from things created, while still being able to influence creation. Plato called this Tool : Logos/Word. In other words, God says or thinks something and that "word" or "thought" enters the world and becomes a created thing and influences the world. Then Christianity simply said "Ah, Christ is the Word, yes the Word made Flesh.".
And how did that Word-made-flesh get born? That they took from Hercules and Mithras.

Finally, you asked: "what does Messiah mean i know it means anointed but is there any other meaning". We're not aware of any other meaning. Although you should look into the difference between "Moshiah" and "Mashiah". One is annointed and one is savior. The Torah uses both terms. Some of that may have also caused confusion in Christianity regarding the Annointed possibly also being a Savior. (But Torah tells us that Only God Saves. Annointed is a servant of God, and only God Saves.).

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Assalam alykam Abdullah  can you please give me more information about this

  as you know   christians try to use the book of revelation prophecies

regarding  anti christ and false prophet

they say its isa pbuh and imam mahdi

here is a video of a Muslim brother talking about the coming of Isa pbuh and imam mahdi and the dajjal  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3hNuI-mgBM


christians try to fit what it says in revelation with  Islamic prophecies 

 they try to say  the beast is Isa and the imam mahdi is the dajjal  or they say that one is the false prophet and one is the anti christ mentioned in revelation

ive seen the refutation to this on AC already

in our islamic prophercy  Isa will annoint people on the forhead as mentioned in the video above 

they say Musilms will be fighting the Jesus of the bible and thinking they are fighting the anti christ,,  they say this because  they say why would Jesus fight against Israel and they say God is coming back

is the book of revelation just hearsay  is there any truth in the book of revelation  or is it just some one on a  acid trip writing a book  ???     why do Christians believe in it so much ???

they say Jesus speaks through book of revelation   

i know a little bit of knowledge on the history  of book of revelation


their  strong argument hey use is that the book of revelation  mentions a religous leader is the anti christ and they say the muslim leader has similarities  and characteristics as imam mahdi

 where do they get this information ???    what is the best way to shut them up

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Assalam alykam here is my revert story video link below

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Messenger of Allāh صلى الله عليه وسلم said, "No one is born except they are upon Al-Fitrāh (instinct). His parents turn him into a Jew or Christian or Magian, just as animals produce their young with perfect limbs. Do you see anything defective?" Then Abu Hurairah, recite the verse if you wish, "So direct your face toward the religion, inclining to truth. (Adhere to) the fitrah of Allāh upon which He has created the people. No change should there be in the creation of Allāh. That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know." (Surah Ar-Rūm 30:30)

[Sahih Muslim, Book 33, Number 6423] http://youtu.be/uZ1P52w93SA  here is my youtube Channel http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWwSRuZ6cbqJdKKUTUS6I3g/videos

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Assalam alykam  as you know   christians try to use the book of revelation prophecies

regarding  anti christ and false prophet

they say its isa pbuh and imam mahdi

here is a video of a Muslim brother talking about the coming of Isa pbuh and imam mahdi and the dajjal  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3hNuI-mgBM


christians try to fit what it says in revelation with  Islamic prophecies 

 they try to say  the beast is Isa and the imam mahdi is the dajjal  or they say that one is the false prophet and one is the anti christ mentioned in revelation

ive seen the refutation to this on AC already

in our islamic prophercy  Isa will annoint people on the forhead as mentioned in the video above 

they say Musilms will be fighting the Jesus of the bible and thinking they are fighting the anti christ,,  they say this because  they say why would Jesus fight against Israel and they say God is coming back

is the book of revelation just hearsay  is there any truth in the book of revelation  or is it just some one on a  acid trip writing a book  ???     why do Christians believe in it so much ???

they say Jesus speaks through book of revelation   

i know a little bit of knowledge on the history  of book of revelation


their  strong argument hey use is that the book of revelation  mentions a religous leader is the anti christ and they say the muslim leader has similarities  and characteristics as imam mahdi

 where do they get this information ???    what is the best way to shut them up


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Assalam alykam

christians try to disprove Muhammad's prophet saying there was no witness to him seeing jibraeel

how can i answer them

here are the verses they bring up

Matthew 18:16
But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.'

Matthew 26:60
But they did not find any, though many false witnesses came forward. Finally two came forward

John 7:51
"Does our law condemn a man without first hearing him to find out what he has been doing?"

John 8:17
In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two witnesses is true.

2 Corinthians 13:1
This will be my third visit to you. "Every matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses."

1 Timothy 5:19
Do not entertain an accusation against an elder unless it is brought by two or three witnesses.

Hebrews 10:28
Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.

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Assalam alykam christians always use these verses


can you please tell me  the history behind these verses and where they in the early manuscripts

can you please give me something to say to these christians  who use these verses

Matthew 16:21
From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.


◄ Luke 24 ►
New International Version
Jesus Has Risen

1On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, the women took the spices they had prepared and went to the tomb. 2They found the stone rolled away from the tomb, 3but when they entered, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus. 4While they were wondering about this, suddenly two men in clothes that gleamed like lightning stood beside them. 5In their fright the women bowed down with their faces to the ground, but the men said to them,

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Assalam alykam check this out and the rest of his videos

do you know of this clown  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sLFk17EKp8

he used to be a Muslim 

here is one video of his as a muslim http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLE_6HC6kGs   how did he get so misguided ???

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Assalam alykam can you please watch  this debate  between Cl abu batil backwards vs brother Shahid lewis


watch the opening statement  by cl backwards which last about  20 mins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6vGf3BTB1M

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Assalam alykam    that is only some points covered

what are the other  allegations come from



what is the best way to  refute every point

please  help with refuting each point

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