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Surah 33 ayah 36
« on: February 18, 2014, 03:54:25 PM »
Salam can some explain the ayah surah 33 ayah 36. The ayah makes it seem as if prophet muhammed takes part in Allah's decisions. This has been bothering me for a while and I hope somebody can help me out.
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"It is not for a believing man or a believing woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decided a matter, that they should [thereafter] have any choice about their affair. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has certainly strayed into clear error."

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Re: Surah 33 ayah 36
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2014, 04:17:41 PM »
All the words and actions that were approved of or performed by the Prophet are approved by Allah.

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Re: Surah 33 ayah 36
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2014, 05:01:13 PM »
Salam can some explain the ayah surah 33 ayah 36. The ayah makes it seem as if prophet muhammed takes part in Allah's decisions. This has been bothering me for a while and I hope somebody can help me out.
Sahih International
"It is not for a believing man or a believing woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decided a matter, that they should [thereafter] have any choice about their affair. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has certainly strayed into clear error."

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Abdullah,

Allah Almighty in the Holy Quran addressed Prophet Muhammad in three ways:

1-  The Prophet.
2-  The Messenger.
3-  Muhammad.

(1)- The Prophet is the one who both made Prophecies and also is the one that is also a Messenger from Allah Almighty.  A Prophet is greater in status than a Messenger.  For example, Jesus is a Prophet, Muhammad is a Prophet, Noah is a Prophet because they made Prophecies, and were also Messengers of Allah Almighty who received Divine Revelations.

(2)- The Messenger is one who receives Divine Revelations from Allah Almighty, and is the one who:

1-  Details them.
2-  Exegetes them.
3-  Explains them.


[053:003]  Nor does he speak out of his own desire.
[053:004]  It is nothing but pure revelation revealed by God.
[053:005]  The Lord of the Mighty Powers has taught him,


[016:102]  Say, the Holy Spirit has brought the revelation from thy Lord in Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe, and as a Guide and Glad Tidings to Muslims.

Please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/holy_spirit.htm

However, according to both the Holy Quran and the Hadiths, not every "hadith" or word that Muhammad the person spoke is a legitimate Hadith.  Plesae visit the following link for the proofs:

www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm

(3)- Muhammad is just the personhood of the Prophet, peace be upon him.

So having said all of that, the Messenger Muhammad, peace be upon him, detailed and explained and exegeted the Holy Quran based on Allah Almighty's Divine Inspirations through:

1-  The Holy Spirit.
2-  Through direct contact through Angel Gabriel.


Again, see the Noble Verses and links above.  Therefore, Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) the person never invented anything on his own when it came to the Laws of of the Holy Quran.  He detailed how to Pray, how to Fast, and how to perform all of the Islamic Duties, Rules and Rituals through the Divine Inspiration.  So rejecting the Messenger Muhammad's Commands and Explanations of the Holy Quran was rejecting the Message of Islam:

[004:014]  Those who disobey Allah and His messenger, and stray beyond His limits, are the ones whom He will hurl into the hellfire. They will stay there forever. There is a humiliating punishment for them.

[004:059]  Oh you who believe! Obey Allah, obey the messenger, and (obey) those who occupy a position of authority among you. Then, should there arise a dispute among you concerning anything, refer it to Allah and the messenger _ if you (really) believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is much better and will (prove to) be the best outcome.


This is similar to Prophet Moses, peace be upon him, when he gave the Jews the Divine Law of GOD Almighty.  Among the Divine Laws that Moses the Messenger gave the Jews was to prohibition to work on the Holy Sabbath.  Some of them rejected the Command and were in turn transformed into pigs and monkies:

[002:065]  And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."

[005:060]  (Say), “Shall I tell you about the recompense from Allah which is certainly far worse? (Deserving a worse fate are): those whom Allah has cursed, those upon whom fell the wrath of Allah, those whom Allah turned into monkeys and pigs, and the devotees of the arrogant and the evil. Their plight is the worst; they are the farthest away from the straight path.”


I hope this helps, insha'Allah.  Again, please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/holy_spirit.htm

And last and not least, please visit the following link to see the Overwhelming Scientific Miracles in the Glorious Quran:

www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Surah 33 ayah 36
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2014, 05:15:10 PM »
Salam thank you for the explanations but I already know all of this  but can somebody give me an explanation of the ayah that is not contradictory with the rest of the Quran. Why does it say "when Allah and his messenger decide on a matter"

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Re: Surah 33 ayah 36
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2014, 05:22:30 PM »
Salam thank you for the explanations but I already know all of this  but can somebody give me an explanation of the ayah that is not contradictory with the rest of the Quran. Why does it say "when Allah and his messenger decide on a matter"

Wa Alaikum As'salam,

I already demonstrated to you, akhi Abdullah, the authority that the Messenger Muhammad, peace be upon him, had.  This is nothing new.  It's consistent with the authorities that the previous Prophets and Messengers also had:

Matthew 19:8
Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning.

Here it's not Messenger Moses, peace be upon him, who just fabricates laws and passes them on.  "Moses permitted you" here means that Allah Almighty permitted for you THROUGH His Messenger Moses' Command that He, the Almighty, had inspired to Moses.

Similarly, we also read commands by Messengers to mere people:


Genesis 28:1
So Isaac called for Jacob and blessed him. Then he commanded him: “Do not marry a Canaanite woman.

Exodus 4:28
Then Moses told Aaron everything the Lord had sent him to say, and also about all the signs he had commanded him to perform.

Exodus 32:28
The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died.

Exodus 35:29
All the Israelite men and women who were willing brought to the Lord freewill offerings for all the work the Lord through Moses had commanded them to do.

Matthew 8:4
Then Jesus said to him, “See that you don’t tell anyone. But go, show yourself to the priest and offer the gift Moses commanded, as a testimony to them.”

Mark 1:44
“See that you don’t tell this to anyone. But go, show yourself to the priest and offer the sacrifices that Moses commanded for your cleansing, as a testimony to them.”

John 8:5
In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?”

John 12:49
For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken.

So much for the lie about Jesus being the Creator of the Universe, in this verse.  Please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/holy_spirit.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links


Take care,
Osama Abdallah

 

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