Invalid argument. Did Allah protect Christianity? Did Allah protect Judiasm? No. Allah just tests us and sees whether humans will succeed. Its not that hard. This argument holds no water. Valid arguments would be those that show the Quran and Allah want us to follow hadiths.
Invalid argument. Allah has says that he is going to protect his Deen till the day of Judgement. Islam is not Christianity or Judaism. Allah tests us. But Allah does not let his religion be corrupted.
I told you before, instead of arguing from authority, give me the scholar’s arguments and I will refute them to show you they aren’t good arguments.
I provided you with the basic fundamental evidence. You accept or do not. If you want further evidence read the books of the scholars that show more in depth evidence. Am not going to give you a 1000 page essay. If you are seeking the truth, seek it. I gave you a start.
You have disregarded my point completely. Please go back and read. Islam is NOT based on sunnah. You are in the delusion. My point was arguments from authority have no value to me. Give ME their actual arguments and again, I will show you why they are invalid.
Islam is based on the sunnah, as i have shown before. So you ARE in the delusion. And about authority. Arguments from authority do have validity in Islam, only if the arguments are in accordance with Islam.
Then you are clearly misinformed. The only scholars you are aware of are the ones that graduate from Saudi Arabian universities. There are many many scholars and knowledgeable people who deny hadiths
No am not actually. The scholars am aware of are from the time of Sahaabah throught all the generations upto now. Before their was the saudi state. And even after it. In many institutions of knowledge from all over the face of the globe.
Anyway what about "saudi arabian universities".?
Now let me reverse this question to you to show you how your argument holds absolutely no water. How about all the shia scholars? Eh? You saying that ALL of them were in error and Allah failed in his deen to the muslims. There are many shia scholars who are more knowledgeable than you.
Yes all of the ones that ascribed commited shirk and kufr, and went opposed Islam are in error. And Allah did not fail them but they failed themselves for straying from the Quran and Sunnah that Prophet brought. As you see they departed from the muslims at the time of Husseins death about 61 AH. Majority shias dont even follow our Quran by the way. And claim tahreef (its been distorted). Astaghfurullah.
No shia kaffir is knowledgeable. So you see it does hold water. See how my argument is strong.
Where does the Quran mention the Sunnah of the prophet?
Why did Allah make the distinction obey GOD AND HIS MESSENGER? Because if you don’t obey the messenger, you don’t obey the message, therefore you don’t obey Allah.
Allah wants to inform you that you are to follow what the prophet says (the Quran states that the prophet says the Quran and nothing else). And by following what the prophet says, you are following the message (the Quran) which means you are following Allah. Allah made that distinction so it can become clear that the prophet is a religious authority because Allah has given him the message that we are all to follow.
To follow the Prophet, is to follow the Quran and Sunnah. So what your saying is that the sahaabah obeyed the Messenger in through orders from the Quran but didnt or didnt have to obey the Prophet when he spoke as a human. Or are you saying that he didnt speak for 23 years except the Quran? See your arguments are invalid.
If you don’t follow the messenger whose sole duty is to give the message, then you are NOT following the message or Allah. So if you are to be guided, you are to follow what the messenger says. And the Quran states the messenger gives the message and the message is in the form of the Quran. NOTHING ELSE. The Quran has not stated that the message is in any other form than the Quran. If there is another source besides the Quran, why would Allah neglect to at least mention it or recognize it.
And I have disregarded your rhetorical usage of 2:269 as it applies to you rather than me.
To summarize: IF you don't obey the messenger and you don't follow the messenger, you are not guided because you are not following the message. The Quran had told us that the prophet's duty is only to give the message. That means all the prophet does is give the message and act accordingly to the message. IF you do not follow him, THEN you are not following the message. Allah makes that clear so that people can follow the prophet and therefore the message. It is not rocket science!
Prophet is to be followed as said in the Quran. Allah said who ever obeys the Quran is a believer. but also says the Prophet, meaning his sunnah.
3:31. Say (O Muhammad SAW): "If you (really) love Allah then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you of your sins. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."
3:32. Say (O Muhammad SAW): "Obey Allah and the Messenger (Muhammad SAW)."...
3:132. And obey Allah and the Messenger (Muhammad SAW) that you may obtain mercy.
4:13. ...and whosoever obeys Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad SAW) will be admitted to Gardens under which rivers flow (in Paradise), to abide therein, and that will be the great success.
4:59. O you who believe! Obey Allah and obey the Messenger...
4:64. We sent no Messenger, but to be obeyed...
4:69. And whosoever obeys Allah and the Messenger (Muhammad SAW), then they will be in the company of those on whom Allah has bestowed His Grace...
4:80. He who obeys the Messenger (Muhammad SAW), has indeed obeyed Allah...
5:92. And obey Allah and the Messenger...
8:1. ...and obey Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad SAW), if you are believers.
8:20. O you who believe! Obey Allah and His Messenger, and turn not away from him (Messenger Muhammad SAW)...
8:46. And obey Allah and His Messenger...
9:71. ...and obey Allah and His Messenger...
24:52. And whosoever obeys Allah and His Messenger (SAW), fears Allah, and keeps his duty (to Him), such are the successful ones.
24:54. Say: "Obey Allah and obey the Messenger...
24:56. ...and obey the Messenger (Muhammad SAW) that you may receive mercy (from Allah).
33:21. Indeed in the Messenger of Allah (Muhammad SAW) you have a good example to follow...
33:33. ...and obey Allah and His Messenger...
33:71. ...And whosoever obeys Allah and His Messenger (SAW) he has indeed achieved a great achievement.
47:33. O you who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger (Muhammad SAW)...
48:17. ...And whosoever obeys Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad SAW), He will admit him to Gardens beneath which rivers flow (Paradise)...
59:7. ...And whatsoever the Messenger (Muhammad SAW) gives you, take it, and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from it)...
64:12. Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger (Muhammad SAW)...