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Title: Christian healers
Post by: abuh44 on July 22, 2014, 12:05:01 PM

What is the deal with this christian healers, can somone explain what they do. I have heard a few explanains from people who know this type of work, but can somone with knolwedge in this area furher expand. Here are some explantions.

1) It fake, i.e setup. Some people have gone on the stage and aksed the "healer" to heal them, but as this was genine it didnt work.
2) Its a placebo, as people are thinking that they have been healed, they start bielving it, somone people even throw away there medicine later on to be found dead, many reports on this. Placebo is poweful it has been known to have an effect on dibeites.
3) they could do hyponsis on the people due to the music and there words, this could make them feal that they are being healed, hypnosis is so powerful that people have done open sujery on somone under hypnosis.
4) Jinn, they could do black magic, somone i spoke to said he has expieance in this area, he said they they use jinn and black magic. Thats why a lot of them start going crazy and laughing and start rolling around ad jumping up and down, they so called "holy spirit" in them is just a jinn leading them further into shirk.

But anyway, a lot of chritian use this to backup there faith, despite the messed up creed that makes no sesne and can be disproven from there book, despite no logcal evidce for the bibe being the word of God, despite contracitos and mistakes, They still beilive.

Anyway, can somone go thorugh the points and also help shed some more light on this issue and add any extra points if possible. Someone with knolwedge in this area.
Title: Re: Christian healers
Post by: ThatMuslimGuy on July 22, 2014, 01:13:59 PM

What youve put is probably correct. It will a mix of being fake, placebo, jinn, magic etc

Depending on the person.

As for knowledge in the area. Im lacking. I can only speak from short personal research and personal experience.

Many Many Many are just fakes.
Title: Re: Christian healers
Post by: abuh44 on July 24, 2014, 12:38:24 AM

Can you please expand a bit further on your persoanl reaserh and encounters. Jazkullah kayir
Title: Re: Christian healers
Post by: The Comforter on July 24, 2014, 04:23:29 PM
Yusuf Estes was also one of those Christian "healers" , he talked about them:

Title: Re: Christian healers
Post by: shaad on July 06, 2017, 07:41:22 AM
I've seen videos on youtube about a kurdish imam named Ali Kurdi who heals blind people and other illnesses by reciting verses of the holy quran
There's a sufi sheikh in Sudan named Sheikh Abdul Aziz ibn Ali who heals all sorts of physical diseases including blindness,cancer and so on just by reciting the Quran
I can give you MORE examples of other healers who use "Islamic methods" to miraculously heal
I can send you links if you want...

Polytheist Shias "pray" to Imam Reza in his shrine for Miraculous Healing from cancer and blindness too and they get miraculously healed(there are documented proofs at the shrine i heard).well combining that with christian healing and even hindu ones, we can say that satan and his company of jinns can heal right?  There are christians that have the same opinion as mine.Even jews reject these miracles(even the Islamic ones) by calling them works of the devil.

There are millions of people of believe in those miracles but to be honest i'm very skeptical,even about the "Islamic ones"
Title: Re: Christian healers
Post by: shaad on July 06, 2017, 07:52:07 AM
When i say skeptical i mean i think the same way as jews think about this subject...
Title: Re: Christian healers
Post by: shaad on July 06, 2017, 07:53:56 AM
*a bit similar to be more accurate
Title: Re: Christian healers
Post by: shaad on July 06, 2017, 09:38:06 AM
Talking about the islamic ones i don't consider all of them to be the work of the devil, only a few of them....