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Why Gabriel grabbed Prophet Muhammad??
« on: September 05, 2015, 06:04:00 PM »
Wy did angel Gabriel Grabbed and pushed prophet Muhammad soo hard and said to read?

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Re: Why Gabriel grabbed Prophet Muhammad??
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2015, 01:55:04 PM »
Wy did angel Gabriel Grabbed and pushed prophet Muhammad soo hard and said to read?

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

Not that it would disprove Islam in anyway, shape or form, for the previous Scriptures speak about many Prophets and we know virtually nothing about them and their encounters with Angel Gabriel, peace be upon him, or any other Angel that might have brought the Divine Revelations to them, but I personally doubt these stories about Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him:

1-  Experienced some violence from Angel Gabriel by getting squeezed and tossed and roughed up by him.
2-  Prophet Muhammad tried to commit suicide by standing on the edge of a high cliff.

Also other more serious lies such as:

1-  The Prophet was bewitched by satan for a 1 1/2 years because some infidel literally took a piece of the Prophet's hair and hid it under a rock, which caused for the Prophet to be bewitched by satan.

2-  The Prophet bowing to idols after he became a Prophet.

These are lies that had been thoroughly proven to be lies from the Glorious Quran Itself.  Allah Almighty in the Glorious Quran directly denied them and refuted them.  Please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm (Which parts of the Hadiths and the Bible do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, and Why?)

www.answering-christianity.com/satanic_verses.htm

Note:  Satan had Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, stand on the edge of the highest point of the temple jump and commit suicide.  Jesus for 40 days and 40 nights was tempted by satan so bad that he became spiritually weak that GOD Almighty sent down Angels to attend Jesus.  Jesus also had "evil desires", because he was tempted, and was between satan and GOD Almighty for 40 days and 40 nights.  For ample details and quotes from the Bible, again visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/satanic_verses.htm

So, I am not sure if the Prophet was grabbed and squeezed and roughed up by Angel Gabriel.  I am not sure the way it is narrated today is accurate.  May be the Prophet got scared from Angel Gabriel, but I doubt that the Angel was violent to the Prophet.  On the contrary, he would be gentle and calming.  The following verses from the Bible support this:

Genesis 15:1
[ The Lord’s Covenant With Abram ] After this, the word of the Lord came to Abram in a vision: “Do not be afraid, Abram. I am your shield, your very great reward.”

Genesis 21:17
God heard the boy crying, and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven and said to her, “What is the matter, Hagar? Do not be afraid; God has heard the boy crying as he lies there.

Genesis 26:24
That night the Lord appeared to him and said, “I am the God of your father Abraham. Do not be afraid, for I am with you; I will bless you and will increase the number of your descendants for the sake of my servant Abraham.”


Luke 1:30
But the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; you have found favor with God.


But what if the Prophet was roughed up??

Some might ask but what if the narrations about Angel Gabriel did indeed rough up Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon both of them, were true, then what does that mean to you?

Answer:  It would mean that Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, is still the Prophet of Allah Almighty who had a rough encounter when he was given the News about him being the Prophet of Allah Almighty.  Visit the following links to see the Glorious Quran's STUNNING Scientific Miracles, and also Islam's STUNNING Prophecies:

www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links
www.answering-christianity.com/ac3.htm#links
www.answering-christianity.com/ac3.htm#prophecies


And it would also mean that the Bible's narrations about the Angel telling the Pious people whom he was sent to "Do not be afraid!" are not thorough.  They do not tell the whole story about:

1-  How they were calmed.
2-  What did the Angel do to calm them.
3-  And did some of them need to be calmed through being grabbed and physically settled down by the Angel?

Only Allah Almighty Alone Knows.  But because our narrations contain BLASPHEMIES against Allah Almighty, the Prophet and Islam (ex: the Prophet was bewitched, and the Prophet bowed to idols after he became a Prophet), then I remain in the position that they are lies until proven otherwise, especially when the Glorious Quran directly rejects them.  Again visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm (Which parts of the Hadiths and the Bible do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, and Why?)

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Osama Abdallah

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Re: Why Gabriel grabbed Prophet Muhammad??
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2015, 07:00:11 PM »
Assalamu alaikum brothers,

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2-  Prophet Muhammad tried to commit suicide by standing on the edge of a high cliff.

You should actually rejoice if non-Muslims try to disprove Islam by using it! Because the full story says that Angel Gabriel came and saved him! Now that's like the biblical Gabriel who says 'Do not be afraid".

Again, Satan tempted Jesus to jump off but angels protected him, just like Gabriel protected Prophet Muhammad! I would be glad if this narration is true bro!

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Re: Why Gabriel grabbed Prophet Muhammad??
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2015, 09:33:37 PM »
Assalamu alaikum brothers,

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2-  Prophet Muhammad tried to commit suicide by standing on the edge of a high cliff.

You should actually rejoice if non-Muslims try to disprove Islam by using it! Because the full story says that Angel Gabriel came and saved him! Now that's like the biblical Gabriel who says 'Do not be afraid".

Again, Satan tempted Jesus to jump off but angels protected him, just like Gabriel protected Prophet Muhammad! I would be glad if this narration is true bro!

Tahmeed

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

I have no reason to believe that these stories are true.  It is BEYOND clear to me our hadiths narrations have conspiracies in them against the Prophet and Islam.  This was thoroughly demonstrated at:

www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm (Which parts of the Hadiths and the Bible do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, and Why?)

I have no reason to believe that the Prophet, for example, got bewitched or tried to commit suicide, or bowed to idols after becoming a Prophet.  I have no reason to believe these man-made lies when the Glorious Quran refutes them.  And to the reader, again, visit the following links to see the Glorious Quran's STUNNING Scientific Miracles, and also Islam's STUNNING Prophecies:

www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links
www.answering-christianity.com/ac3.htm#links
www.answering-christianity.com/ac3.htm#prophecies


I hope this helps, Insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Why Gabriel grabbed Prophet Muhammad??
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2015, 07:32:16 AM »
I don't know about other Hadiths bro......

But where does this "The Prophet bowed down to idols" hadith come from? From another fabricated biography I suppose!

And I don't believe it either, even if it is in Bukhari! These type of hoaxes are destroying Islam!

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Re: Why Gabriel grabbed Prophet Muhammad??
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2015, 03:10:40 PM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Tameed,

The narration about the Prophet bowing to idols after he became a Prophet is located in this link: 
www.answering-christianity.com/satanic_verses.htm.  I also gave it above.

I would like for the reader to understand the following about my position:

1-  I am not rejecting these narrations because "it would be the end of Islam" as some infidels say.  These narrations wouldn't end Islam nor would they cause any doubt in my heart towards Islam, because the Glorious Quran's Divine Miracle is inside the Glorious Quran Itself.  It is not dependent upon nor is it conditional upon a mere Prophet.  Again, the reader can visit the following links to see the Glorious Quran's STUNNING Scientific Miracles, and also Islam's STUNNING Prophecies:

www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links
www.answering-christianity.com/ac3.htm#links
www.answering-christianity.com/ac3.htm#prophecies


2-  But because these narrations are against what Allah Almighty Said in the Glorious Quran, and Allah Almighty directly denied them and even called those who say they're true as the wicked ones ("the wicked say...."), then I have no reason to accept them.  The reader can visit the following link for more details:

www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm (Which parts of the Hadiths and the Bible do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, and Why?)

So I would like the reader to fully understand that I am not here holding on to dear life by insisting on rejecting them to "save Islam".  No, this is not the case AT ALL!  It is just that I really strongly and firmly believe that there were infidels that fabricated gossip on the Prophet to make mockery of Islam and the Prophet.  They were Muslims on the surface only, but carried hatred in their hearts towards Islam because Islam came and crushed their idols and ended their fathers' traditions forever:

[005:104]  When it is said to them: "Come to what God hath revealed; come to the Apostle": They say: "Enough for us are the ways we found our fathers following." what! even though their fathers were void of knowledge and guidance?

[007:028]  When they do aught that is shameful, they say: "We found our fathers doing so"; and "God commanded us thus": Say: "Nay, God never commands what is shameful: do ye say of God what ye know not?"

[010:078]  They said: "Hast thou come to us to turn us away from the ways we found our fathers following,- in order that thou and thy brother may have greatness in the land? But not we shall believe in you!"

[021:053]  They said, "We found our fathers worshipping them."

[026:074]  They said: "Nay, but we found our fathers doing thus (what we do)."

[031:021]  When they are told to follow the (Revelation) that God has sent down, they say: "Nay, we shall follow the ways that we found our fathers (following). "What! even if it is Satan beckoning them to the Penalty of the (Blazing) Fire?

[043:022]  Nay! they say: "We found our fathers following a certain religion, and we do guide ourselves by their footsteps."

[043:023]  Just in the same way, whenever We sent a Warner before thee to any people, the wealthy ones among them said: "We found our fathers following a certain religion, and we will certainly follow in their footsteps."



And the Muslims were plagued with hypocrites amongst them:

[003:167]  And so He may test the hypocrites! They were told, “Come, fight in the path of Allah, or (at least) defend (yourself against the enemy).” But they responded, “We would have followed you, if we had known (for sure) that there would be a battle.” That day, they were nearer apostasy than belief. By their lips, they were declaring that which (just) wasn’t there in their hearts. Allah is well Aware of what they conceal.

[004:061]  When told, “Come to what Allah has revealed, (come) to the messenger”, you find that the hypocrites shy away in repulsion.

[004:064]  We did not send any messenger, except to be obeyed in accordance with His will. When the hypocrites had caused an outrage against themselves, they should have come to you. If they had sought forgiveness from Allah, and if the messenger had (also) sought forgiveness on their behalf, they would surely have found that Allah is all Forgiving and the most Merciful!

[004:088]  Why are there two opinions among you concerning the hypocrites? Because of the wrong they have wrought, Allah has made them revert (to disbelief). Do you wish to guide the one whom Allah has led astray? You will not find any way out for the one whom Allah misleads!

[004:089] The hypocrites wish that you would reject faith just like they have. Then, you will (descend down to their level and) be equal to them. Therefore, do not choose them as friends unless they (emigrate and) leave their homes in the path of Allah. If they revert (to open hostility), then seize and slay them wherever you see them. Do not take them as friends or protectors, nor as helpers,

[004:090]  Except for those (hypocrites) who find refuge with a nation with whom you have a treaty! Or unless they come to you such that their hearts cringe and neither allow them to fight you, nor their own people. Had Allah willed, He would have given them power over you, and they would have fought you. Therefore, if they stay aloof and do not fight you, or if they make overtures of peace, then Allah has given you no reason to commit aggression against them.

[004:091]  You will find other hypocrites who seek to stay safe from you, as well as from their people. But, (as soon) as they are tempted with a lure, they plunge headlong into mischief. If they do not stay neutral, and do not make overtures of peace towards you, and do not restrain their hands, then seize and slay them wherever you see them. In their case, We have given you a clear sanction.

[004:138]  Give such hypocrites the news that a painful punishment awaits them.

[004:140]  It has (already) been revealed to you in the Book (the Qur’an) that: you should not sit with a group when you hear the verses of Allah being rejected and ridiculed in that company, until they (change the topic and) engage themselves in a different subject. Otherwise, you will become like them. Indeed, Allah is going to gather the hypocrites and the unbelievers together in the hell.

[004:141]  There are some (hypocrites) who are waiting to see your fate. If victory comes to you from Allah, they will say to you, “Were we not with you?” However, if fate favored the unbelievers, they will say to them, “Could we not have (fought against you and) overwhelmed you? Didn’t we keep the believers from (defeating) you?” Allah will render his judgment between you (and them) on the Day of Judgment. Allah will never allow the unbelievers a way over the believers!

[004:142]  The hypocrites seek to deceive Allah, but it is actually He Who dupes them. They are lethargic (and listless) when they stand for ‘salat’ _ (they) only (wish) to be noticed by others (and just go through the motions of ‘salat’). Little do they remember Allah!

[004:145]  Indeed, the hypocrites shall occupy the lowest level of hell _ (its deepest abyss),. You will not find anyone who would (want to) be their helper.

[008:049]  (Remember), the hypocrites and others with disease (of disbelief) in their hearts said (about the believers), “Their faith has misled and blinded these people.” But whoever places his trust in Allah (knows that) Allah is indeed the most Powerful, and the Wisest.

[009:064]  The hypocrites are afraid that a ‘surah’ (of the Qur’an) might (soon) be revealed exposing whatever exists in their hearts. Say, “Make fun (all you want). But Allah is going to reveal that which you dread.”

[009:067]  All hypocrites _ men as well as women _ resemble each other. They enjoin wickedness and forbid decency. They are tight-fisted (and do not spend for the cause of Allah). They forgot Allah, and so He forgot them. The hypocrites really are the evil doers.

[009:069]  (You hypocrites are) like those (generations of hypocrites) before you who enjoyed their share (of life and leisure)! Compared to you they had more power. They had a lot more wealth and descendants. So, go ahead and enjoy your share (of life) just like those before you. Stay engrossed (and lost) in play and pleasure, just like those before you. Their efforts (and endeavors) amounted to nothing in the life of this world, or in the afterlife. Such are the losers!

[009:073]  Oh prophet, wage an utmost struggle against the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and be harsh with them. Hell fire is their abode, and it is the worst of the destinations!

[009:074]  The hypocrites swear by Allah that they have said nothing (wrong); but surely they did utter the words of disbelief. After accepting Islam they have disbelieved! They attempted to do what they could not carry out. How hostile (and resentful) are they, simply because Allah, by His grace and through His messenger, enriched them! It would be to their advantage if they repented. However, if they turn away, Allah will torment them with a painful punishment in this world, as well as in the life-to-come. They do not have any friends or helpers in this world.

[009:079]  The hypocrites criticize the (true) believers who give charity willingly and beyond the call of duty, as well as those who find nothing (to give) except their own (physical) efforts (and struggles). They make fun of the believers. But Allah makes fun of the hypocrites. For them, there exists a painful punishment.

[009:081]  The hypocrites who stayed home and did not follow the messenger of Allah (on his mission) rejoice (over their inactive stance). They did not care to wage the struggle with their wealth and their life for the sake of Allah. (Rather), they said (to others), “Do not go forth (into battle) in this heat.” Say, “The fire of hell is hotter and far worse!” If only they understood!

[009:083]  Should Allah bring you back to a group of (these) hypocrites, and should they seek your permission to go out (into battle for you), tell them (plainly), “You shall never accompany me (into battle) ever again. You shall never fight the enemy with me. You were content with sitting idle (and inactive) on the first occasion. Now, sit still in the company of those who (always) stay behind.”

[009:101]  Many of the Bedouin Arabs around you as well as (many of) the people of ‘Al-medina’ are hypocrites. You do not know them, but We know them (quite well). Soon, We will inflict upon them twice the punishment. After that they shall be brought back for the gravest of punishment.

[009:107]  Those (hypocrites) who built a (parallel) mosque did so in order to foment mischief, disbelief and dissension among the believers, and also to provide a retreat and a (secret) sanctuary for the person who had always waged a war against Allah and His messenger. They would definitely swear that (by building that mosque) they had intended nothing but good. But Allah bears witness that they are certainly the liars.

[009:124]  Whenever a (new) chapter (of the Qur’an) is revealed, some of the hypocrites ask (each other mockingly), “Which one of you has experienced an increase of belief by this (revelation)?” Meanwhile, the believers rejoice because it does cause their belief to surge.

[029:011]  Allah definitely knows the ones who believe, and He definitely knows the hypocrites.

[033:001]  Oh prophet! Fear Allah and do not follow the unbelievers and the hypocrites. In fact, it is Allah Who knows everything, and is the Wisest.

[033:012]  The hypocrites and the ones with the disease (of doubt) in their hearts began saying, “The promises made by Allah and His messenger were just delusions!”

[033:024]  (Allah let it happen) so that Allah may reward the faithful for their sincerity and truthfulness; and so that He may either punish the hypocrites, or accept them back in His grace. Indeed, Allah is the oft-Forgiving and the most Merciful.

[033:048]  Do not yield to the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Disregard the nuisance caused by them, and in Allah place your trust. Allah is sufficient as a trustee!

[033:060]  The hypocrites and those with a disease (of doubt) in their hearts must quit spreading false rumors in the town (Medina). Otherwise, We will most certainly rouse you into action against them. Then they will not remain your neighbors in this town much longer.

[058:014]  Do you not see the hypocrites? They befriend the nation that has invoked the wrath of Allah. They _ (such hypocrites) _ neither belong to you nor to others (your enemies). They knowingly swear to their falsehood!

[059:011]  Did you not observe the hypocrites? They say to their disbelieving friends, the people of the scriptures, “If you are banished (from town), then we too shall depart with you. We will never listen to anyone against you. We will come to your aid if war is waged upon you.” Allah bears witness that they are surely the liars!

[059:012]  Very definitely! If they, (the people of the book), are banished, the hypocrites will not depart with them. If they, (the people of the book), are attacked, the hypocrites will not come to their aid. They (the hypocrites) will turn their backs (and desert their allies), if they (at all) come to their aid. No help shall they receive, then!

[059:016]  (The hypocrites are) like Shaitan! He suggests to man, “Refute the truth! (be ungrateful)!” But as soon as man denies the truth, (Shaitan) says, “I am absolved of your sins! Indeed, I fear Allah, the Lord of the universe.”

[063:001]  (Oh prophet), when the hypocrites come to you, they say, “We bear witness that you really are the messenger of Allah.” Of course, Allah knows you are His messenger; (but) Allah affirms that the hypocrites are really the liars!

[063:004]  (Oh prophet), the appearance of the hypocrites and their physiques are pleasing to look at. Their speech is so glib and pleasant, one likes to just keep on listening. It is as if they were carved out of wood and propped up (against the wall). They think (like cowards), that every call to action is against them. They are the enemies! Beware of them! May Allah curse them. How perverted are they!

[063:007]  They are the ones who say, “Do not spend anything on the companions of Allah’s messenger. (Wait) till they desert him.” (All) the treasures of the heavens and the earth belong to Allah. But the hypocrites do not understand.

[063:008]  They (the hypocrites) say, “When we return to town, the one with respect and honor will expel the despised (and humbled).” The respect and honor belong (entirely) to Allah, His messenger, and the believers. But the hypocrites do not know!

[066:009]  Oh prophet! Wage a relentless struggle against the unbelievers, and the hypocrites. Be stern against them (and do not yield). Hell shall be their abode! What an evil (despicable) destination!


There are literally 1000s of hadiths on the mouth of Aisha, and like them on the mouths of other companions.  I don't believe our mother in Islam Aisha has spoken these hadiths.  I believe many of them are gossips.  And I am commanded by Allah Almighty in the Glorious Quran to only accept what the Glorious Quran doesn't reject from narrations.  Again, the reader can visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm (Which parts of the Hadiths and the Bible do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, and Why?)

I hope this helps, Insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Why Gabriel grabbed Prophet Muhammad??
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2015, 08:11:28 PM »


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You should actually rejoice if non-Muslims try to disprove Islam by using it! Because the full story says that Angel Gabriel came and saved him! Now that's like the biblical Gabriel who says 'Do not be afraid".

Again, Satan tempted Jesus to jump off but angels protected him, just like Gabriel protected Prophet Muhammad! I would be glad if this narration is true bro!

Tahmeed

May be that narration is false but still this can be used to answer those people's who's hearts are like stones which never admit these narrations are false!

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Re: Why Gabriel grabbed Prophet Muhammad??
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2015, 06:06:37 AM »
its possible as some claim such stories were added by some "Israelite Muslims" so that the Arabian prophet will not be superior than their Israelite prophets.

In Israelite scriptures their prophets do a lot of mistakes opposing the commands of Yhwh,
for e.g prophet Aaron allowed the worshiping of idol calf, so prophet Aaron himself moulded the idol cow for Israelite to worship. Rabbis say the logic behind such act was to buy some time awaiting for prophet Moses to return, and by worshiping idol they will stay content and not went violent.

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Re: Why Gabriel grabbed Prophet Muhammad??
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2015, 12:41:48 PM »
Assalam.alykam he embraced him.to show he was not dreaming .  If you look.in the bible an angel wrestled with Jacob and broke his hip.  So what is worse breaking a hip.or a hug from.an angel?

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Re: Why Gabriel grabbed Prophet Muhammad??
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2015, 11:34:05 AM »
Assalam.alykam he embraced him.to show he was not dreaming .  If you look.in the bible an angel wrestled with Jacob and broke his hip.  So what is worse breaking a hip.or a hug from.an angel?

Some says it was god himself which makes it even worse!  :P

 

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