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Title: Why are we created
Post by: Hayalilaydaa on March 20, 2018, 07:04:46 PM
Selamu aleykum ikhwan what i wanted to ask is i mean ALLAH doesnt need us i know that we all do and neither does he need our worship but why did he create us then? I mean he doesnt need it, and some people which dont convert to islam are burning in hell for it whilst ALLAH actually need it, this has been troubling me for months now and i really need a answer
Title: Re: Why are we created
Post by: Hayalilaydaa on March 21, 2018, 04:52:34 PM
Could someone please answer :(
Title: Re: Why are we created
Post by: AMuslimDude213 on March 21, 2018, 06:25:17 PM
Well Allah SWT has made the world a test.
Its not that he needs our worship. we need him. because without him. we all would be led astray.

the reason Allah SWT puts people in Hell is not solely for disbelief. these people can stain the heavens. if we were to mix the people of heaven and hell in heaven. whats the point of heaven anymore? they will corrupt the heavens then.
Title: Re: Why are we created
Post by: Hayalilaydaa on March 21, 2018, 08:59:59 PM
I know that akhi whats confusing me is again as i said he doesnt need us and he‘ll know who goes to hell and heaven when he couldnt create us at all, i mean theyre getting punished yes its their fault bc they had the proof and didnt believe i know that but the oportionity(?) to not create us at all was also there
Title: Re: Why are we created
Post by: AMuslimDude213 on March 21, 2018, 09:35:43 PM
That is because Allah SWT was merciful.
Title: Re: Why are we created
Post by: Hayalilaydaa on March 21, 2018, 09:42:28 PM
I dont get it for the non believers its not merciful?
Title: Re: Why are we created
Post by: AMuslimDude213 on March 22, 2018, 08:28:42 AM
Well let me explain. Allah SWT created us because he was Merciful and somewhere along the Lines Allah SWT ordained a test of belief for us. the thing is. Allah SWT is merciful to everyone who believes in him. because we believe in purity. false ideologies can get us to hell. because thing is. by believing in false ideologies purposefully is something, really dangerous to Islam.

and another thing to consider. those who didnt know about Islam,those disbelievers are spared and are sent to Jannah according to the hadith.

and also another thing to consider is that we dont know Allah SWT's thoughts. He is the uncomprehendable being.
Title: Re: Why are we created
Post by: submit on March 23, 2018, 09:26:59 AM
you will be raised according to your surroundings and faith of parents.
as for the creation of humans, they will administer the earth and also worship the Creator.

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Behold, thy Lord said to the angels: "I will create a vicegerent on earth." They said: "Wilt Thou place therein one who will make mischief therein and shed blood?- whilst we do celebrate Thy praises and glorify Thy holy (name)?" He said: "I know what ye know not." 2:30
Title: Re: Why are we created
Post by: Sama on March 23, 2018, 02:44:13 PM
Why does God create ?

Allah is the creator and everything besides Him is His creation, which He created from nothing.
The creation is the natural consequence of the attribute of creator.
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You wouldn't call a painter, "painter", if he doesn't paint.


Does God need our worship ?


No
إِن تَكْفُرُوا۟ فَإِنَّ ٱللَّهَ غَنِىٌّ عَنكُمْ ۖ وَلَا يَرْضَىٰ لِعِبَادِهِ ٱلْكُفْرَ ۖ وَإِن تَشْكُرُوا۟ يَرْضَهُ لَكُمْ ۗ
"If you disbelieve - indeed, Allah is Free from need of you. And He does not approve for His servants disbelief. And if you are grateful, He approves it for you"

All this takes place according to God’s design who knows all. He does not need any of His servants. They are essentially weak and powerless, but He bestows on them an abundance of His grace. “If you disbelieve, God has no need of you.” If you believe, you will not increase His kingdom in any way. If you disbelieve, this too will not affect His kingdom in any adverse way. He, however, does not like people to disbelieve. By contrast, “lf you give thanks, He is pleased with you.” He will accept this from you and reward you generously for it. Everyone is accountable for their own deeds, and none will be held responsible for another, nor will he be allowed to take upon himself part of another’s burden.

So relative to Allah, we were created in a means or a way in which Allah has chosen to manifest his attributes of creation, mercy, grace etc and he could have chosen another one. But relative to us as human beings, we know that our purpose is to worship Allah.

Does Allah punish those who doesn't deserve punishment ?

No

إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ لَا يَظْلِمُ مِثْقَالَ ذَرَّةٍ ۖ وَإِن تَكُ حَسَنَةً يُضَٰعِفْهَا وَيُؤْتِ مِن لَّدُنْهُ أَجْرًا عَظِيمًا
Indeed, Allah does not do injustice, [even] as much as an atom's weight; while if there is a good deed, He multiplies it and gives from Himself a great reward.

Why do we need to worship God ?

Worship your Lord, Who created you and those who came before you, that ye may guard (against evil).

There is an outcome of worship: Attaining the degree of guarding (taqwa). Man attains the degree of taqwa, that is, he attains the degree of fearing of Allah, abstaining from his prohibitions, keeping away from what He has forbidden. It means, the benefits of worship pertain to man.

People, who do not attain this degree, spend their lives in sins, disobedience, polytheism and ingratitude. They lead men to go to Hell.

http://sunnahonline.com/library/the-call-of-islam/147-why-were-we-created
Title: Re: Why are we created
Post by: Hayalilaydaa on March 23, 2018, 03:25:28 PM
Thank you so much akhi youre really a blessing! Could i message you?
Title: Re: Why are we created
Post by: Sama on March 23, 2018, 03:56:06 PM
You are welcome, no problem
Title: Re: Why are we created
Post by: swer on March 25, 2018, 07:56:54 AM
I was also interested in this question. thanks for the answer