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A debate I had with a christian(
« on: July 17, 2017, 03:03:34 PM »
Christian:"yes because the quran is so peaceful and it is the evil jews and the west that are making the terrorist

it has nothing to do with the vile hate filled books of islam

muslims are lucky most people are too busy to read the quran

if i was a muslim I WOULD BE ASHAMED.

Me:"if you have , a shadow of morality you must leave islam once you read the quran."
Well I have read most of the Quran and I never left Islam and nor did anyone in the Middle East and even the Imams tell us to treat our non-muslim guests with peace,and I live in the Middle East so....."


Christian:"yes I am sure you like what happened to Qandeel Baloch and million of other women.

and you are fine with this? is this your religion? and you are NOT ASHAMED?
"they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

no surprise here."

Me:"First of all: This is a punishment for terrorism in Islam and punishment for the people who kill in Muslim lands

5:32 Clearly states:"Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors."

Me:"And second of all Qandeel baloch was a non Islamic act,it wasn't about Islam,that was due to her Brother Waseem's anger,this kind of stuff is common in Pakistan,not due to Islam but due to the government,the country has no good security,it is a damned country honestly and will never fix itself,whether it is Islamic or not,you haven't seen how Brothers rape their sisters in HINDU TOWNS of Pakistan,they do it,its because of the government.
Even if it was Islamic,he did a sin,according to 2:256 in the Quran.
And even in 60:8 in the Quran so there's your answer on Qandeel baloch,And Million of other women? thats a over-exaggeration not Million of other women,the only acts of a Muslim killing any women has not been countless,unlike America which bombed millions of women in Iraq,Syria,And Afghanistan so before you go to women like a feminist,think about your own countries too."


Christian:"please, how on earth you claim the moral high-ground??
you have people in your sect that sold,crucified,burned alive women and children, intentionally.

If the west wanted you dead, think about it,  Russia alone has nuclear weapons that can destroy an area the size of turkey in a second.

Imagine if ISIS or, AlQauda or boco haran or ANY other muslim sociopath creep organization , or even country - had similar weapons, would they blinked twice before using it? Judging from your book, a book that mentions Love less times than it mentions attacking the polytheists and the people of the book and the jews and the hypocrites and everyone who farts funny.  Allow me to hypothesize otherwise. Your book teaches hate. deal with it. You have rejected Lord Jesus Christ. A man - a God - who elevated humanity with his message.

Do not stone women, he said, you stone women.
love your enemey he said. you HATE the kafirs
Woman with long hair is an honor , god gave her hair instead of veil

you cover your women, literally in polyester - the same material used to make garbage bags. I've lived in saudi arabia . I know how hot it gets.


and by the way..

Why muslim countries always blame colonial past and the west for the  horrible undemocratic situations they are in and not their moral framework?
Do you really think the west "wants you down" to "take your stuff"?

The west wants normal people to do business with, it would have been a lot cheaper than war too.

How come Japan after having an entire nuke dropped on its head, now is a productive part of western civilazation?
How come Germany aftern being defeated now is doing fine?

America was a colony , canada was a colony australia was a colony.
cyprus, malta.. etc etc

somehow only muslims can't figure [censored] out. and fall from a dictatorship to a theocracy to a banana republic. 

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oh and refering to 5:33,

behold!!!! muslims of the world!!! Beez Games!!!  the only dude in the entire planet ,that figured out the true meaning of the quran

YOU GUYS GOT IT ALL WRONG!!

its not the kafirs, it's not those who rejected allah and his prophet! it's the terrorists!!

give me break..."

Me:"LOL Got it all wrong? NO I used context,buddy 5:32 is its context unless if you have made a seperate kind of Quran."


Christian goes Silent here.

Me:"Lord "Jesus" made it very clear in 1 timothy 2:11 he hates women through his false apostle Paul if you wanna switch religions,I can make it clear"
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Me:"Well Russia wouldnt but America has why use Russia? Russia has many Muslims in it,bombing us would be betraying that huge majority of Russian Muslim states.
I guess you forgot America dropping Uranium on Iraq and deforming babies and destroying Innocents Al Qaeda was due to the US,so Was ISIS,and most Muslim countries are political,Polyester? well thats Saudi arabia,its due to wahhabism its ruined due to a certain sect not due to Islam,if you look at its past,it was more civilized than all european countries combined.

And if you knew Quran you would've read 5:32 and also 5:33's tafsir looks like we got a scholar here.BEHOLD A great scholar!,
Doesnt know the tafsir,doesnt look at the past verses and contexts and calls Muslims to kill unbelievers happily :D"


Me:"Well if we go to the meaning of Kafir,Quran has this to say:

"Allah only forbids you from those who fight you because of religion and expel you from your homes and aid in your expulsion - [forbids] that you make allies of them. And whoever makes allies of them, then it is those who are the wrongdoers."(60:9)

Ah the old love your enemies myth,okay so if he said love your enemies and if Jesus was 'the lord" why did he hate the Amaleks and ripped pregnant womens babies off,etc?
Ohh the hypocrisy is real in this one.

No we dont only stone women,let me quote "Lord" Jesus on this:

"If a man takes a wife and, after sleeping with her, dislikes her 14 and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, “I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,” 15 then the young woman’s father and mother shall bring to the town elders at the gate proof that she was a virgin. 16 Her father will say to the elders, “I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. 17 Now he has slandered her and said, ‘I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.’ But here is the proof of my daughter’s virginity.” Then her parents shall display the cloth before the elders of the town, 18 and the elders shall take the man and punish him. 19 They shall fine him a hundred shekels[a] of silver and give them to the young woman’s father, because this man has given an Israelite virgin a bad name. She shall continue to be his wife; he must not divorce her as long as he lives.

20 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you.

Footnotes:"(Deutoronomy 22:13-21)

Looks like the Image completely changes here. and also if you say ohh that was only the old testament read Matthew 5:17 it clearly says Jesus wants to fulfill this,but I guess the ALL "Peaceful" and all loving Jesus found fun in Ripping off babies from pregnant women in the Old testament,loved to kill innocent children,etc ahh.. And then Jesus loves his enemies :D"

 

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