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Offline abdullah

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Re: Do humans exist because of Extraterrestrial life forms (Aliens)?
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2013, 11:37:18 PM »
Did you really just bring us links of pseudoscience and expect us to go through them?
Even if the early earth could produce organic materials necessary for life, It is still not possible for the molecules to rearrange themselves and produce RNA, let alone a fully functional cell that is able to convert energy, reproduce itself,etc.,etc.

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Re: Do humans exist because of Extraterrestrial life forms (Aliens)?
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2013, 04:35:03 PM »
Earth conditions different back then - http://earthsky.org/science-wire/new-theory-explains-seeds-of-life-in-asteroids
Meteor found in Sri Lanka - http://daily.bhaskar.com/article/WOR-is-discovery-of-extraterrestrial-life-being-kept-under-wrap-a-meteor-in-sri-lank-4392617-NOR.html
"Evolution of humans did not occur on Earth" - Dr Ellis Silver
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/human-beings-came-from-another-planet--not-earth--new-book-claims-134335110.html#ZBnfZ88

I don't understand what this has to do in the Islamic context. But yes, a lot of things are possible and we won't be able to know exactly what happened. We could only resort to a probabilistic method.

Anyway, regardless of how life on earth sparked, Earth had to have the necessary molecules to sustain such life and allow it to reproduce. So in a sense, all of creation on Earth were produced from the Earth. Without the Earth's molecules to sustain life, no life would exist here.

Anyway, the burden of proof is on you, show us where the Quran goes against evolution please. I will show you how it supports the idea of creation with many steps, show me how it doesn't

(Quran 76:1) Has there come on man a long period of time when he was a thing unremembered?
(Quran 71:14)  God created you in diverse stages
(Quran 71:17) And Allah has caused you to grow from the earth a [progressive] growth.
(Quran 30:27)  God originates creation; Then reproduces it; and For him it is most easy.
(Quran 6.133)  If He wills, he can do away with you and give succession after you to WHATEVER He wills, just as He produced you from the descendants of another people.
(Quran 47:38) And if you turn away, He will replace you with another people; they will not be the likes of you.
(Quran 2:30) And when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority.

^In this last verse, who are we succeeding?

How about another verse?

Quran 29:19 Have they not considered how Allah begins creation and then repeats it? Indeed that, for Allah , is easy.

^Allah is telling you to consider this natural process of Allah of how he begins creation and then repeats it.

Quran 29:20 "Roam the earth and observe how the creation was initiated. Then God will establish the final design. God is capable of all things."

^The verse right after COMMANDS us to travel through the Earth and observe how creation was initiated. Then Allah gives us a hint that Allah will establish the final design. God is so capable of all of these things, that he will definitely be able to resurrect you and judge you. An example of Allah's power is in his biological creation.

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How about this verse?

(Quran 32:7) Allah is He who has made everything He created BETTER, and He began the creation of the human (being) out of clay

Here is a clear example of Allah telling you that creation had a process of betterment or perfection. That whatever was created was created BETTER. Also mankind's creation BEGAN. Allah BEGAN the creation of a human being out of clay! Creation with a process.

What is clay? Clay is a product of wet-earth. Water and Earth compounds is what makes up clay. In fact, we believe that the oceans are too dilute to provide the sustenance necessary for the first cells to form. We believe that it is more probable that the first cell formed in a shallow location with a good number of water and Earth. I.e Clay.

When we look for life on mars and other places, we look for water, more specifically CLAY.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/12/mars-clay-boron-meteorite-key-element-life_n_3428600.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/13/science/space/mars-could-have-supported-life-nasa-says.html?_r=0

http://www.ifa.hawaii.edu/info/press-releases/MartianClay/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11536891

"The first organisms were self-replicating iron-rich clays which fixed carbon dioxide into oxalic and other dicarboxylic acids".

http://www.ox.ac.uk/media/science_blog/110401.html

These articles alludes to the fact of how we are looking for clay to find life on mars. Any intellectual person would know that there is a reason why they are looking for clay. Because you have clay when you have water on a rocky planet. And if life comes from water and some other compounds necessary for life, then that clay would be the source of life.
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