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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Noah
« Last post by Qualities of Allah on June 27, 2021, 12:47:59 PM »
So according to Quran 37:77 and you, from Noah came the bloodline of Prophets and later all other nations except Noah's perished (not in the Flood but for other reasons)? Because Quran 37:77 says only Noah's descendants are those remaining on Earth.
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Noah
« Last post by QuranSearchCom on June 27, 2021, 01:40:44 AM »
Noah, peace be upon him, was sent to specific group of people.  From him came the bloodline of Prophets after him.  Allah Almighty also made him the cornerstone of the number 19 Numerical Miracle in the Glorious Quran:

www.answering-christianity.com/100_percent_guarantee_that_quran_is_divine.htm#cornerstone
www.answering-christianity.com/100_percent_guarantee_that_quran_is_divine.htm


[007:069]  "Do ye wonder that there hath come to you a message from your Lord through a man of your own people, to warn you? call in remembrance that He made you inheritors after the people of Noah, and gave you a stature tall among the nations. Call in remembrance the benefits (ye have received) from God: that so ye may prosper."

Only the nation of Noah drowned.  Other nations survived.  The flood was local. 


Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Noah
« Last post by Qualities of Allah on June 25, 2021, 02:37:32 PM »
Is Noah's flood local or global? I know that you say it is local because why would Allah punish all nations just for one nation? However, the Quran seems to suggest that the flood was global.

[17:003]"O descendants of those We carried [in the ship] with Noah. Indeed, he was a grateful servant."

Why would the Quran say "O descendants of those we carried in the ship with Noah" like Noah and his people were the only ones living on Earth at the time? This seems to suggest that there were no other nations on Earth at the time of Noah except his nation so thats why the flood was global. Moving on:

[37:077]"And We made his (Noah's) descendants those remaining [on the earth]"

This Verse suggests that Noah's descendants are the only ones left on Earth. The last Verse that seems to be clear that the ones on the Ark were the ancestors of everyone on Earth:

[69:011]"Indeed, when the floodwater had overflowed, We carried you in the floating Ark ˹with Noah˺,"

This Verse is saying that WE were carried in the Ark. This means that the ancestors of everyone (and us) on Earth are those who were on the Ark. This shows that there was no other community on Earth except Noah's at that time (because Noah existed towards the beginning of humanity's creation so humans were probably not scattered throughout the Earth yet).

There was another Verse that I found saying something like "if We willed, We would have drowned your ancestors in the Flood" but I forgot where it is now. This Verse was the best in seeming to suggest that the Flood was global but I cannot find it now.

So what do you think about these 3 Verses?
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Noah
« Last post by Qualities of Allah on June 22, 2021, 07:56:15 AM »
Lol, thanks for the answers. I can disprove them now even more on the third point. Just discovered that for Verse 31:14,
"And We have commanded people to ˹honour˺ their parents. Their mothers bore them through hardship upon hardship, and their weaning takes two years (عامين). So be grateful to Me and your parents. To Me is the final return."

The word used here was عامين (dual form of عام) which is supposed to mean "good years" according to them. Except literally when the Verse says the mother faced "hardship upon hardship" for two عام, I dont think those عام were "good years". Now if they argue that the baby's weaning in the baby's point of view were part of the "good years", I dont think trying to give the baby other food, they would like to be given food other than breast milk when that is all that it wants.  So that is also hardship.
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6:137 And it was adorned for the polytheists, by their partners, to kill their children in order to turn them and to confound their system for them. Had God willed they would not have done this, so ignore them and what they invent.

14:46 Andthey schemed their scheming, and their scheming is known to God; and their scheming was enough to make the mountains cease to exist.
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Noah
« Last post by QuranSearchCom on June 21, 2021, 01:10:42 PM »
First, living 950 years makes no sense scientifically as scientists say that the lifespan is increasing, not decreasing.

In Hell Fire it will make perfect sense to all of the infidel scumbags.

Second, Allah is not concerned with the ages of people since it has nothing to do with guiding people.

Says who?  The infidel scumbags?


Third, Allah never directly said 950 years but instead said 1000 سنة minus 50 عام. And they "proved" that عام means good years and سنة means bad years using Quran 12:49 and 5:26. They say that 1000 and 50 are metaphorical numbers and just mean that Noah achieved many years of oppression and only a few years of spiritual progress.

Year has three Noble Words in the Glorious Quran:  Aam, Sanah, Howl.  Allah Almighty choosing any of them in any place in the Noble Verses throughout the Glorious Quran is done through His Divine Purpose and Design.


Fourth, the same chapter where Noah is said to live 950 years says in Verse 43 that God gives parables to mankind, concluding that God "confirms" Noah's age was a parable and not literal.

The Parable is for the reader and all humans to learn from the Wisdom of Prophet Nuh's story.  It doesn't say that the 950 years were metaphorical.

Fifth, Verse 48:23 is used to say that God does not change his way. Thus, "proving" that lifespans were never different and longer before and were always the same as they are part of God's way.

Lying on GOD Almighty again.  What does a Miracle of a Prophet living for 950 years have to do with Allah Almighty's Ways.

Sixth, Verse 29:14 itself says that Noah REMAINED WITH HIS PEOPLE, and not lived, for 1000 minus 50 years, thus "proving" that the Quran never said Noah lived for 950 years.

Whether the Prophet lived for 950 years total or spent 950 years in one community remains a mystery.  I believe he lived a total of 950 years from birth to death.  But none of this really matters.  What matters here is the STUNNING Numerical Miracle in the number of years and the number of Letters that make up the entire Chapter of Noah.


Finally, they say that after doing the math, 1000 سنة minus 50 عام, which unit should the answer be in, سنة or عام? Thus, they say that just doing simple math here doesn't make sense, "falsyfing" the claim that Noah lived for 950 years. (I find this reasoning to be poor because سنة and عام mean the same thing and are synonyms, so the answer would be in سنة or عام.

In Hell Fire they'll tell the infidels all of the math and reckoning that they've dismally missed.



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Sixth, Verse 29:14 itself says that Noah REMAINED WITH HIS PEOPLE, and not lived, for 1000 minus 50 years, thus "proving" that the Quran never said Noah lived for 950 years.
Finally, they say that after doing the math, 1000 سنة minus 50 عام, which unit should the answer be in, سنة or عام? Thus, they say that just doing simple math here doesn't make sense, "falsyfing" the claim that Noah lived for 950 years. (I find this reasoning to be poor because سنة and عام mean the same thing and are synonyms, so the answer would be in سنة or عام.



The number of Letters and number of years perfectly matching exists throughout the Glorious Quran, and is one of the Quran's beautiful Numerical Miracles phenomenon that were discovered.  Prophet Noah's Chapter is written in exactly 950 Letters.  Not 951 or 949.  Prophet Noah is also the cornerstone of the Glorious Quran's number 19 Miracle.  He is the only Prophet that was given this Divine Honor from Allah Almighty.  This is thoroughly demonstrated with 1000s of scanned images at:

www.answering-christianity.com/100_percent_guarantee_that_quran_is_divine.htm


The doomed-to-Hell infidels are bankrupt, and they're on their way to Eternal Destruction.  They think it is laughs and jokes.


Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Noah
« Last post by Qualities of Allah on June 21, 2021, 08:43:28 AM »
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Sixth, Verse 29:14 itself says that Noah REMAINED WITH HIS PEOPLE, and not lived, for 1000 minus 50 years, thus "proving" that the Quran never said Noah lived for 950 years.
Finally, they say that after doing the math, 1000 سنة minus 50 عام, which unit should the answer be in, سنة or عام? Thus, they say that just doing simple math here doesn't make sense, "falsyfing" the claim that Noah lived for 950 years. (I find this reasoning to be poor because سنة and عام mean the same thing and are synonyms, so the answer would be in سنة or عام.



The number of Letters and number of years perfectly matching exists throughout the Glorious Quran, and is one of the Quran's beautiful Numerical Miracles phenomenon that were discovered.  Prophet Noah's Chapter is written in exactly 950 Letters.  Not 951 or 949.  Prophet Noah is also the cornerstone of the Glorious Quran's number 19 Miracle.  He is the only Prophet that was given this Divine Honor from Allah Almighty.  This is thoroughly demonstrated with 1000s of scanned images at:

www.answering-christianity.com/100_percent_guarantee_that_quran_is_divine.htm


The doomed-to-Hell infidels are bankrupt, and they're on their way to Eternal Destruction.  They think it is laughs and jokes.


Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Yes brother we agree that the Surah Nuh is made of 950 letters but these are Muslims making this claim and they also believe in the Quran. They just say the 950 years things is interpreted differently. So can you shut these hypocrites up by refuting it point by point?
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Noah
« Last post by QuranSearchCom on June 21, 2021, 08:15:59 AM »
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Sixth, Verse 29:14 itself says that Noah REMAINED WITH HIS PEOPLE, and not lived, for 1000 minus 50 years, thus "proving" that the Quran never said Noah lived for 950 years.
Finally, they say that after doing the math, 1000 سنة minus 50 عام, which unit should the answer be in, سنة or عام? Thus, they say that just doing simple math here doesn't make sense, "falsyfing" the claim that Noah lived for 950 years. (I find this reasoning to be poor because سنة and عام mean the same thing and are synonyms, so the answer would be in سنة or عام.



The number of Letters and number of years perfectly matching exists throughout the Glorious Quran, and is one of the Quran's beautiful Numerical Miracles phenomenon that were discovered.  Prophet Noah's Chapter is written in exactly 950 Letters.  Not 951 or 949.  Prophet Noah is also the cornerstone of the Glorious Quran's number 19 Miracle.  He is the only Prophet that was given this Divine Honor from Allah Almighty.  This is thoroughly demonstrated with 1000s of scanned images at:

www.answering-christianity.com/100_percent_guarantee_that_quran_is_divine.htm


The doomed-to-Hell infidels are bankrupt, and they're on their way to Eternal Destruction.  They think it is laughs and jokes.


Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Noah
« Last post by QuranSearchCom on June 21, 2021, 08:04:43 AM »
As'salamu Alaikum Everyone,

It is funny that the infidels find it impossible for Prophet Noah, peace be upon him, to have lived for 950 years (this would've been His Divine Miracle from Allah Almighty if only him made it that far in years), while they don't find it impossible that when their fathers' sperms and mothers' eggs united to form them, they were each at least 1,000,000 times smaller in size than what they are now.  As if this is not illogical in itself.  Yet, it materializes millions of times everyday.


Again, to respond to the infidels, a Muslim can easily shut them up by giving them the Glorious Quran's STUNNING Numerical and Scientific Miracles:

www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links


This will end the infidels' "circular reasoning" tricks; that it is true because the Quran says so, and the Quran is true because the Quran says so.  Yes, the Quran is True because the Quran is Miraculous, which proves that it is from Allah Almighty because it says that it was indeed sent down from Allah Almighty and is the Holy and Divine Words of Allah Almighty.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Noah
« Last post by Qualities of Allah on June 18, 2021, 04:01:56 PM »
-Scientifically speaking, it's impossible to determine the age of death of a historical figure whose womb is not examined.
-There is nothing that makes his age of death impossible. Allah is All-powerful.

Jazakumullah for the answer. However they made many points and not just this one.
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