Author Topic: Imam mahdi is the anti-christ? Please refute this!! Also, possible contradictio  (Read 4724 times)

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Offline Saudi Salafi

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 Osama Abdallah (or anyone) can you please continue this refutation? http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=711.0 . Also, I think that I might have found a contradiction (I hope not and please refute this) Allah SWT over here states that the humans are the first creations  "The Day that We roll up the heavens like a scroll rolled up for books (completed),- even as We produced the first creation, so shall We produce a new one: a promise We have undertaken: truly shall We fulfil it.  (The Noble Quran, 21:104)"

 But over here it says that there were other creatures before us “And (remember) when your Lord said to the angels: ‘Verily, I am going to place (mankind) generations after generations on earth.’ They said: ‘Will You place therein those who will make mischief therein and shed blood, - while we glorify You with praises and thanks (Exalted be You above all that they associate with You as partners) and sanctify You.’ He (Allah) said: ‘I know that which you do not know’”

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The following is according to my knowledge, which could be mistaken.

I don't think Islamic doctrine ever claimed that the humans were the "first creation". From what I understand the first creation in this verse is referring to the "former creation" which has died (i.e. humans) and now Allah will recreate it. The word "اول" translated as "first" can also be translated as "former" which, if I'm not mistaken, is the gist of it in this context (I will ask an Arabic speaking person to confirm this).

This is apparently the opinion of Ibn Kathir: http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2620&Itemid=76

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 Can you continue your refutation please? Or ask anyone to continue it?

Offline Saudi Salafi

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 Brother this has been refuted over here https://haveyoumetislam.wordpress.com/2011/06/17/is-imam-mahdi-the-biblical-anti-christ/ Alhamdulilah . If you want to add any extra comments then it will be appreciated. I ask that you will go to my first question regarding Prophet Muhammad being a False prophet and helpdarksouls refute it. Thank you.

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i think there is nothing called anti Christ, it's also a pagan roman/Zionists(atheists) made, maybe they mean anti roman crooked empire, and a fixer of roman empire (Islam) that's what afraid of getting out of their king hand lucifer . anyhow can you believe that there are many Arabs Muslims doesn't believe in the Mahdi or Dajjal or Jesus PBUH return?, because non of these are mentioned in the Quran ,and some hadeeths about these subjects contradicting each others and contradicts with Quran.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhdC14lRcKs

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How can Imam Mahdi be the False Messiah? Would Imam Mahdi be helping Jews by claiming he is the long anticipated Messiah and so the Jews are saved.

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i think there is nothing called anti Christ, it's also a pagan roman/Zionists(atheists) made, maybe they mean anti roman crooked empire, and a fixer of roman empire (Islam) that's what afraid of getting out of their king hand lucifer . anyhow can you believe that there are many Arabs Muslims doesn't believe in the Mahdi or Dajjal or Jesus PBUH return?, because non of these are mentioned in the Quran ,and some hadeeths about these subjects contradicting each others and contradicts with Quran.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhdC14lRcKs

 Adnan Ibrahim is a shia I think, so don't listen to him.

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no no not at all. he as a scholar doing his personal endeavor in explaining Quran, and explains it the way he sees it right as many other thousands of Arab scholars.

 

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