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Offline Saudi Salafi

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Moonlight Scientific Mistake in Hadiths?
« on: April 19, 2016, 10:40:32 AM »
 Please refute these:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "The sun and the moon will be folded up (deprived of their light) on the Day of Resurrection."

A man made his wife like the back of his mother. He then had intercourse with her before he atoned for it. He came to the Prophet (ﷺ) and informed him of this matter. He asked (him): What moved you to the action you have committed? He replied: I saw the whiteness of her shins in moon light. He said: Keep away from her until you expiate for your deed.

"O Messenger of Allah, I declared Zihar on my wife, then I had intercourse with her before I offered the expiation." He said: "What made you do that, may Allah have mercy on you?" He said: "I saw her anklets in the light of the moon." He said: "Do not approach her until you have done that which Allah, the Mighty and Sublime, has commanded."


I went out one night (and found) the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) walking all alone. There was no man with him. I thought that he did not like anyone walking along with him. So I began to walk in the light of the moon.



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Re: Moonlight Scientific Mistake in Hadiths?
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2016, 03:20:43 PM »
Just replace moonlight with, "the light that comes from the sun, even though the sun has set, and is reflected by the moon" in the Hadiths. Do you really believe that is needed?

The Prophet had conversations in the common vernacular of the people. Interesting scientific information may be derived from the Qur'an and Hadiths today, but this was not meant for those people. A similar case exists for the word "Qalb" (commonly translated as "the heart") used in the Qur'an. Even in today's times of scientific knowledge, people use terms like these, that does not mean they literally believe in them.

Prophet Muhammad came to teach religion to the people, not science. Additionally, Muslims also don't believe that Allah had bestowed all (or, as some argue any) scientific knowledge to Prophet Muhammad. This is an example of a common conversation done in the common language of the people, people thinking about these things are looking too hard to find any mistake in Islam.

For the Qur'anic information on this: http://www.answering-christianity.com/ahmed_eldin/light_of_moon.htm

By the way, can some Arabic speaking person check whether the words "deprived of light" are actually in the Hadith, it is available at: http://sunnah.com/bukhari/59/11.

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Re: Moonlight Scientific Mistake in Hadiths?
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2016, 08:35:53 AM »
The hadith is interpreted as sun and moon will be thrown into Hell. Perhaps as witness to those who worshiped them in the past.

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as for moon, it can be source of low level lighting in the dark.


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Re: Moonlight Scientific Mistake in Hadiths?
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2016, 12:14:22 PM »
the word adj "كورت" "kuwwirat" from the root verb "kawwar" "كور", this word source came from Quran as some arabic webs says.

 in surat al takweer it's mentioned as adj and as something will be done to the sun in the future , if you try to translate the word  "كورت" "kuwwirat"  in google translation it will be football :)  . it's mentioned as a verb in surat i zumar verse 5 "yokawwer" "يكور". we don't use this word much except in the adj FootBall "كورة" "koora" and soccer, and we use verb kawwar when want to make something like ice ball , and meat ball and hide something inside it, such as meat ball stuffed with nuts and we calls them "korraat al lahm" meat balls. some arabs uses it when they rounding their head with a turban.

i have this website also for full information about this word if someone can translate it. http://www.almaany.com/ar/dict/ar-ar/%D9%83%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%AA/

so i even use tafseer for it as you do , maybe it needs a muslim astrologist to understand it.
I'm biased to this translation for these 2 verses specifically.

Shakir:(81:1) When the sun is covered,

Shakir:Verse (39:5) ....,He makes the night cover the day and makes the day overtake the night, and He has made the sun and the moon subservient; each one runs on to an assigned term; now surely He is the Mighty, the great Forgiver.

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Re: Moonlight Scientific Mistake in Hadiths?
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2016, 12:16:34 PM »
note : as you can see in surat al zummar verse 5 it come as 1- cover and 2- over takes

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Re: Moonlight Scientific Mistake in Hadiths?
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2016, 11:28:49 PM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

Speaking of كورت, I wanted to bring to your attention this STUNNING Diving Miracle in the Glorious Quran regarding كورت in relation to our sun:

www.answering-christianity.com/sun_becomes_white_dwarf_star.htm

Again and again, the doomed-to-Hell infidels have nothing but noise on Islam.  We have the Divine Truth of GOD Almighty.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

 

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