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David Wood Quoting Forgeries rebuttal needed
« on: January 02, 2017, 09:38:47 AM »
Peace be upon you everyone!, I Wonder How Do You Respond To Forgeries Like this:

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Re: David Wood Quoting Forgeries rebuttal needed
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2017, 03:26:48 PM »
Here you go the refutation  :) :
The actual Arabic text is: "فأعضوه بهن أبيه ولا تكنوا"

This is a figure of speech and the provided translation is inaccurate as the translation is literal, which made the intended meaning to be lost. The underlined first word means "bite" but in this sentence it means "stick to" and this is one of the meaning of this word in Arabic. The second word that I have highlighted in bold, means "penis" but it also does not actually give the meaning of "penis" here since it is used to refer to the "semen" that is inside it. Having said that, the actual statment means in correct translation: "He who is proud of his origins in a manner that is similar to the era of pre-Islam, let him stay next to his father's semen [i.e. let him remember that his actual origin is a flithy semen]. So, as you can see it is not a verbal abuse but rather a strong explicit reminder of something that make one get over the phony pride.

The reason why you find today people get surprised or immediatly reject some words in hadeeths and even the Quran is because they understand it according to their own terms in addition to the fact that they do not know the actual Arabic language, its culture and how Arabs use words in their speeches. Ibn Taymiyyah stressed this point when he explained that people tend to unedrstand hadeeth and Quran according to how they grew up and their culture.
The reason why you find today people get surprised or immediatly reject some words in hadeeths and even the Quran is because they understand it according to their own terms in addition to the fact that they do not know the actual Arabic language, its culture and how Arabs use words in their speeches. Ibn Taymiyyah stressed this point when he explained that people tend to unedrstand hadeeth and Quran according to how they grew up and their culture.

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Re: David Wood Quoting Forgeries rebuttal needed
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2017, 12:42:32 AM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Truth Exposer,

May Allah Almighty bless you akhi.  Keep up the refutations and the good work.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah


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Re: David Wood Quoting Forgeries rebuttal needed
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2017, 02:16:02 PM »
Assalam Alaykum Osama or anyone else :),  I'm having a debate with some guy he say it does use the word penis somehow but i don't know how to refute it :/


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Re: David Wood Quoting Forgeries rebuttal needed
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2017, 03:10:36 AM »
Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother,

The narration was written 300 years after the Prophet.  And its chain of narrators is weak.  It is not authentic.  Many lies had been fabricated on the Prophet before:

www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm


Tell the Christians that Jesus Christ in the Bible called people pigs, dogs, snakes.  And it's possible that he spoke worse words.  Also, satan made king-kong-like figure out of him (I am not calling Jesus king kong) by making him go all the way up to the temple (a very high building) and stand at its top and contemplate whether to jump or not:



www.answering-christianity.com/satanic_verses.htm





TEMPTED = COVETED!

If I am tempted to steal your wallet, then I have already coveted your wallet.

Jesus was tempted by satan so bad that he was between GOD Almighty and satan for 40 days and 40 nights, TEMPTED (COVETING) TO SIN!  Yet, the Bible says if you covet, then you have sinned (Romans 7:7-8, 13:9, Micah 2:1-2, Exodus 20:17, Deuteronomy 5:21, Acts 20:32-35).  And Jesus was tempted to sin, and got very weak that GOD Almighty had to send down Angels to attend him, because he became spiritually weak.  He even was tempted with Mary Magdalene:





www.answering-christianity.com/satanic_verses.htm


So much for Jesus, peace be upon him, being OUR CREATOR!

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: David Wood Quoting Forgeries rebuttal needed
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2017, 06:55:56 AM »
http://www.letmeturnthetables.com/2013/08/explained-bite-father-penis-hadith.html

even when using much more explicit word in the example of Imru al-Qays, its still about releasing anger.

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Re: David Wood Quoting Forgeries rebuttal needed
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2017, 01:11:16 PM »
Never-mind we won the Debate! but thanks anyway :)

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Re: David Wood Quoting Forgeries rebuttal needed
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2017, 01:12:33 PM »
Not only that we did quote the bible verses he say he is a Atheist.

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Re: David Wood Quoting Forgeries rebuttal needed
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2017, 01:30:24 PM »
Don't forget to read my early replys :) & Brother Osama how do I edit my texts here?

Jazak'Allah khair.

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Re: David Wood Quoting Forgeries rebuttal needed
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2017, 09:28:11 PM »
Sorry dear brother.  Only yours truly can modify posts.  You can make another post to correct the previous one.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

 

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