Author Topic: COMPULSION IN ISLAM IMPOSED ON CHRISTIANS/MUHAMMAD KILLED INNOCENT PEOPLE  (Read 4025 times)

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Offline Butzdenn

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I assure you, links I posted are mine. These are WordPress links, customary as short links and not the usual link formats.
RIGHTS are not acts but the privilege to do things, thus abortion etc is not a right but the act as manifestation of your right!
8? Who's 8?
FREE SPEECH is supported by us, meaning, the right to do it, not the act of blasphemy.
JESUS SAID, LET THEM BE, AND IF THE BLIND LEADS THE BLIND BOTH WILL FALL...etc
but we have to warn them as Paul teach, COME OUT FROM THEM!

you don't know how to distinguish a right and an action!
Jesus abolished the law such as the eye for an eye tooth for tooth as explicit in matt 5:38-39 therefore your interpretation is flawed. He disrespects sabbath. He disrespects the war doctrines by saying, LOVE YOUR ENEMIES. I could show you tons of abrogated laws which your illiterate mind could grasp nothing but an out of context concept of matt5:17!

First time to hear?

Killing pagans, if you comprehend the conversation was not intended to go against yours, it was used in accordance to how the other impose a bible verse as stand alone, thus I used his method against him!

Ok. If you wish to be a stepping stone, let's do arguments openly not through links.
Agree?

Offline Albarra

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Agree.


No, Jesus never said that he would abolish the old law. Show your evidence.

As I said, Matt 5:17 contradicts your claim.

You said that Matt 5:38-39 abolished the old law. Really?

Let's read it.

38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth." 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. (math 5:38-39)

I don't get it. These verses talk about face, not law.
 

Love your enemies? Okay, but do you love Adolf Hitler?


Who is enemies? Anti-Christ? Would they go to heaven?

I'm sorry, but it makes no sense.

Actually, it is a trick!!
When Jesus come to earth, he would pull his sword from his mouth and slaughter his enemies.

Basically, he deceives his enemies.


Then I said, “Alas, Sovereign Lord! How completely you have deceived this people and Jerusalem by saying, ‘You will have peace,’ when the sword is at our throats!” (Jeremiah 4:10)



Indeed, God ordered Moses, David, Samuel, Joshua, and Elisha to kill people.

Even Christian crusaders slaughtered tens of thousands of innocent Jews in Israel. Just research.

Love enemies?

The American military dropped nuclear bombs on 2 Japanese cities that killed almost 200,000 people.


Again, Christianity does not support free speech because people have no rights to insult God under blasphemy's law.

United States, however, abolished blasphemy because they follow the secular constitution.

Do you know what the difference between secularism and Christianity?

Again, you still ignore my simple question about killing pagans. Why did Muhammad (SAWS) condemn killing pagan's women and children?

Offline Albarra

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Butzdenn,
By the way, where are you from? Just wondering.
Your name is unusual.


Offline Butzdenn

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LOVE YOUR ENEMIES ABROGATES KILLING ENEMIES!

ABROGATION!
MATT5:38-39 DO NOT RESIST/OPPOSE EVIL (A PERSON OR A CRIME IN THE CONTEXT OF EYE FOR EYE)

If you kill a criminal you're opposing evil!
IN THE CONTEXT OF EYE FOR EYE!!!!

an abrogation!
Jesus works/heals in a sabbath against the law.

Matt 5:17 having these abrogation implies not destroying the law in different context.
Luke16:16 say the law is until john!
Therefore renders matt 5:17 differently.
What is the right context?
LUKE24:44 says, all things jesus must fulfill and not destroy written in the bible, CONCERNING HIM
OR
ABOUT HIM PERSONALLY!

Offline AMuslimDude213

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So apparently Butzdenn is agreeing they have lost early Christian practices and is admitting Paul unfollowed and disobeyed Jesus and abolished the law,when Jesus said to follow it,What does this mean about Paul? Hmmm,definetly doesn't seem like a true apostle.

 

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