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 Geocentrism is the notion that the earth is the centre of our universe, thus all celestial bodies (the sun, the moon and the 5 known planets) move around it. The ancient Greeks and the Europeans of the middle ages thought that the celestial bodies all moved in celestial spheres around the earth.
Heliocentrism, is the astronomical model in which the Earth and planets revolve around a relatively stationary Sun at the center of the Solar System.

Islam enemies say that quran is geocentric. To accuse God with such a grave accusation, we expect them to show where did quran mention that "earth is the centre of our universe" and "moon & sun move around it".

Fact: Nowhere in the quran we find such a statement; just another empty propaganda.

Their only "proof" is that geocentrism was a common belief in the past, so quran must be geocentric !

Disbelievers are making an assumption about without sufficient evidence to support the assumption. There are other more valid assumptions that can be made. Therefore, the only basis for choosing their particular assumption is because it is consistent with a particular bias.
They base their 'assertion' upon:
1. God did not mention that earth has an orbit.
2. makes no distinction between the movement of the moon and the movement of the sun
3. seems to associate the passing of the day and night with the movement of the sun (and moon)

Their first 2 'proofs' aren’t even relevant so they don’t even require any related explanation to begin with, while the 3rd feature is inaccurate because it disregards the textual context of the verses in question.

- God is omniscient.
- In the Qur’an, God says that the sun and the moon swim in their orbits.
- Modern astronomy confirms that the moon revolves around the earth and the sun revolves around the galaxy.
- Therefore, the orbits of the sun and the moon, as mentioned in the Qur’an, can therefore be understood to refer to moon’s circular orbit around the earth and the sun’s circular orbit around the galaxy.

The mentioning of the “night and day” cycle along with the “sun and moon” orbits in those verses does not necessarily indicate a geocentric perspective. Although they are mentioned together in several verses in the Qur’an, they are always grouped together separately from each other in all of those instances. It’s never said as “the night with the moon” or “the day with the sun” in any of those instances. In addition to that, the moon is not always visible at night nor is it only visible at night. This further disassociates the mentioning of “night and day” with the “sun and the moon”.

There is also the context of those verses as well, which is not about the day/night dichotomy, but about the signs of God in the universe with the “day and night” being one of them and the “sun and moon” being another. With regard to the verse in question:

Qur’an 21:30-36: Are the disbelievers not aware that the heavens and the earth used to be joined together and that We ripped them apart, that We made every living thing from water? Will they not believe? And We put firm mountains on the earth, lest it should sway under them, and set broad paths on it, so that they might follow the right direction, and We made the sky a well-secured canopy––yet from its wonders they turn away. It is He who created night and day, the sun and the moon, each floating in its orbit. We have not granted everlasting life to any other human being before you either [Muhammad]––if you die, will [the disbelievers] live forever? Every soul is certain to taste death: We test you all through the bad and the good, and to Us you will all return. When the disbelievers see you, they laugh at you: ‘Is this the one who talks about your gods?’ They reject any talk of the Lord of Mercy.

Here, in addition to the “night and day” and “sun and moon”, we also see the mention of “the heavens and the earth”, the “mountains”, every living thing being made from water, and the “sky”. You cannot possibly associate all of those things exclusively with each other, yet the attempt is made to do so if the “day and night” happen to be mentioned in the same verse as the “sun and moon”?

« on: July 02, 2023, 02:41:40 AM »
In terms of the power of Allah, it is possible for the Prophet Dawud to cast iron into any shape he wished like wax, without heating and forging it. Elmalılı, the tafsir scholar, states the following regarding the issue:

"It seems that iron softens and dissolves so much in the fire that it becomes like ink used in writing. Then, who, among sane people, regards it as impossible for to divine power?

Some people reached the conclusion that what was meant by it was to say that he found and discovered melting iron by using fire and tools but it is not true. The discovery and smelting of iron must have occurred before. However, applying sensitive technology to weave it like clothes by putting it in any shape like wax was an art granted to the Prophet Dawud. "

Allah knows best

« on: July 02, 2023, 02:31:25 AM »

Did the Prophet Muhammad Plagiarise Ancient Greek Embryology?

Scientists Acceptance of the Miracles of the Quran

A Scientist's Interpretation of References to Embryology in the Qur'an

Great resources:

« on: July 02, 2023, 02:24:54 AM »
 Most of the Arabs had complied with the call of Ishmael (Peace be upon him) , and professed the religion of his father Abraham (Peace be upon him) They had worshipped Allah, professed His Oneness and followed His religion a long time until they forgot part of what they had been reminded of.

However, they still maintained such fundamental beliefs such as monotheism as well as various other aspects of Abraham’s religion, until the time when a chief of Khuza‘a, namely ‘Amr bin Luhai, who was renowned for righteousness, charity, reverence and care for religion, and was granted unreserved love and obedience by his tribesmen, came back from a trip to Syria where he saw people worship idols, a phenomenon he approved of and believed it to be righteous since Syria was the locus of Messengers and Scriptures, he brought with him an idol (Hubal) which he placed in the middle of Al-Kaabah and summoned people to worship it.

Readily enough, paganism spread all over Makkah and, thence, to Arabia, people of Makkah being custodians of not only the Sacred House but the whole Haram as well. A great many idols, bearing different names, were introduced into the area.

The Arabs believed that such idols, or heathen gods, would bring them nearer to Allah, lead them to Him, and mediate with Him for their sake, to which effect, the Qur’an goes:

“We worship them only that they may bring us near to Allah.” [39:3], and

“And they worship besides Allah things that hurt them not, nor profit them, and they say: These are our intercessors with Allah.” [10:18]

The polytheists, who faked Abrahamism, were so far detached from its precepts, and totally oblivious of its immanent good manners. They plunged into disobedience and ungodliness, and developed certain peculiar religious superstitions that managed to leave a serious impact on the religious and socio-political life in the whole of Arabia.
Religions of the Arabs:

The polytheists who associated partners with Allah in worship admitted that He is the Sole Creator of the heavens, earth, sun, moon, day, and night, and that He is the Sole Sustainer of all Creation, Who grants all beings provisions, and Who has predetermined their destinies and decreed that they should be granted dissimilar amounts of provision in this worldly life, making some rich and some poor. They, just like Christ-worshippers, claimed that these idols are "the only way" to God/Allah.

If you have further questions, let us know.

Jazaka Allah khayr, akhi Osama.  I have checked this page:

It has some great points, but there are duplicates (some photos and phrases are repeated over 20 times). You may re-check them when you have time.

Barak Allahu feekum

Quran 10:94-95 tafsir:
10:94. If you [O Muhammad] are in doubt concerning that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who read the scriptures [revealed] before your time. The truth has indeed come to you from your Lord, so do not be among those who doubt.
10:95. Never be among those who reject the signs of Allah, for then you would be among the losers.
Here Allah says to His Prophet Muhammad ﷺ : If you [O Muhammad] are in doubt concerning that which We have revealed to you), as to whether it is sound or not,
^then ask those who read the scriptures [revealed] before your time)*
that is, ask the fair-minded People of the Book and the well-versed scholars, for they will confirm to you the soundness of what you were told (of the Qur’an), and they will confirm that it is in harmony with what they have.

If it is asked: many - if not most - of the People of the Book, namely the Jews and Christians, stubbornly disbelieved in the Messenger of Allah and rejected his call, but Allah instructed His Messenger ﷺ to quote them and described their testimony as proof for the message he brought and evidence that it is true; how can that be?

This may be answered by noting the following points:
  •   If testimony is attributed to a particular group, school of thought, country, and the like, it is only referring to the testimony of those among them who are just and truthful. As for others, even if they are more numerous, they are to be overlooked, because testimony should be based on justice and honesty, and that was fulfilled when many of their rabbis and scholars believed, such as ‘Abdullah ibn Salam and his companions, and many of those who became Muslim at the time of the Prophet ﷺ, his successors (the caliphs) and after that.
  •   The testimony of the People of the Book in favour of the Messenger ﷺ was based on their Book, the Torah, which they claim to follow. If there is in the Torah that which is in harmony with the Qur’an, and confirms it and attests to its soundness, even if they all, from the first of them to the last,agree to deny that, it cannot undermine the message that the Messenger ﷺ brought.
  •   Allah instructed His Messenger ﷺ to seek the testimony of the People of the Book to the soundness of the message he brought, and he did that openly, announcing it before the people. It is well known that many of them were the keenest of people to prove false the call of the Messenger Muhammadﷺ. If they had possessed anything that could refute what Allah mentions, they would have proclaimed it openly and explained it clearly. As nothing of the sort happened, the fact that those who were hostile could not refute it and those who responded affirmed it offers the strongest evidence for the soundness and truthfulness of this Qur’an.
  •   Most of the People of the Book did not refute the call of the Messenger rather most of them responded and submitted willingly. The Messenger ﷺ was sent at a time when most of the people on earth followed the religion of the People of the Book, and it was not long before most of the people of greater Syria, Egypt, Iraq and neighbouring regions became followers of Islam, in a region that was the heartland of the religions of the People of the Book, and none were left except people in positions of leadership who preferred that status to the truth, and those who followed them of the ignorant masses, as well as those who were Christian in name only, such as the Europeans who in reality do not believe in the hereafter and have nothing to do with any divinely-revealed religion; rather they claim to follow the religion of Christ for political reasons and as a means of camouflaging their falsehood, as anyone who mixes with them will clearly realise.

يقول تعالى لنبيه محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم: { فَإِنْ كُنْتَ فِي شَكٍّ مِمَّا أَنْزَلْنَا إِلَيْكَ } هل هو صحيح أم غير صحيح؟.
{ فَاسْأَلِ الَّذِينَ يَقْرَءُونَ الْكِتَابَ مِنْ قَبْلِكَ } أي: اسأل أهل الكتب المنصفين، والعلماء الراسخين، فإنهم سيقرون لك بصدق ما أخبرت به، وموافقته لما معهم، فإن قيل: إن كثيرًا من أهل الكتاب، من اليهود والنصارى، بل ربما كان أكثرهم ومعظمهم كذبوا رسول الله وعاندوه، وردوا عليه دعوته.
والله تعالى أمر رسوله أن يستشهد بهم، وجعل شهادتهم حجة لما جاء به، وبرهانًا على صدقه، فكيف يكون ذلك؟
فالجواب عن هذا، من عدة أوجه:
منها: أن الشهادة إذا أضيفت إلى طائفة، أو أهل مذهب، أو بلد ونحوهم، فإنها إنما تتناول العدول الصادقين منهم.
وأما من عداهم، فلو كانوا أكثر من غيرهم فلا عبرة فيهم، لأن الشهادة مبنية على العدالة والصدق، وقد حصل ذلك بإيمان كثير من أحبارهم الربانيين، كـ "عبد الله بن سلام" [وأصحابه وكثير ممن أسلم في وقت النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم، وخلفائه، ومن بعده]  و "كعب الأحبار" وغيرهما.
ومنها: أن شهادة أهل الكتاب للرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم مبنية على كتابهم التوراة الذي ينتسبون إليه.
فإذا كان موجودًا في التوراة، ما يوافق القرآن ويصدقه، ويشهد له بالصحة، فلو اتفقوا من أولهم لآخرهم  على إنكار ذلك، لم يقدح بما جاء به الرسول.
ومنها: أن الله تعالى أمر رسوله أن يستشهد بأهل الكتاب على صحة ما جاءه، وأظهر ذلك وأعلنه على رءوس الأشهاد.
ومن المعلوم أن كثيرًا منهم من أحرص الناس على إبطال دعوة الرسول محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم، فلو كان عندهم ما يرد ما ذكره الله، لأبدوه وأظهروه وبينوه، فلما لم يكن شيء من ذلك، كان عدم رد المعادي، وإقرار المستجيب من أدل الأدلة على صحة هذا القرآن وصدقه.
ومنها: أنه ليس أكثر أهل الكتاب، رد دعوة الرسول، بل أكثرهم استجاب لها، وانقاد طوعًا واختيارًا، فإن الرسول بعث وأكثر أهل الأرض المتدينين أهل كتاب .
فلم يمكث دينه مدة غير كثيرة، حتى انقاد للإسلام أكثر أهل الشام، ومصر، والعراق، وما جاورها من البلدان التي هي مقر دين أهل الكتاب، ولم يبق إلا أهل الرياسات الذين آثروا رياساتهم على الحق، ومن تبعهم من العوام الجهلة، ومن تدين بدينهم اسمًا لا معنى، كالإفرنج الذين حقيقة أمرهم أنهم دهرية منحلون عن جميع أديان الرسل، وإنما انتسبوا للدين المسيحي، ترويجًا لملكهم، وتمويهًا لباطلهم، كما يعرف ذلك من عرف أحوالهم البينة الظاهرة.
وقوله: { لَقَدْ جَاءَكَ الْحَقُّ } أي: الذي لا شك فيه بوجه من الوجوه ولهذا قال: { مِنْ رَبِّكَ فَلَا تَكُونَنَّ مِنَ الْمُمْتَرِينَ } كقوله تعالى: { كِتَابٌ أُنْزِلَ إِلَيْكَ فَلَا يَكُنْ فِي صَدْرِكَ حَرَجٌ مِنْهُ }

Paulicians,also believed Christ Jesus have been spared

« on: November 16, 2022, 12:17:01 PM »
Wa alaikum assalam
Kindly remove anti-islamic links (not to make free propaganda for Islamophobes) and ask your specific question(s).

« on: November 12, 2022, 11:15:18 AM »
Wa alaikum assalam

Both are called so; but the context tells us everything.

The prophecy of Isaiah 42 about the Prophet:

1. Lives where Kedar the son of Ishmael [Genesis 25:13]
2. Kedar from Arabia [Ezekiel 27:21]
3. Will live besides Sela (mountain in Arabia)
4. He will sing a new song (law)
5. Will be sent from Gentiles not Jews
6. Man of war (Isaiah 42:13)
7. Will be sent to idol worshipers (Isaiah 42:17)

Who is this man?

Have a look here too

« on: August 03, 2022, 11:13:35 AM »
Wa alaikum assalam,

I am not an admin, but you can post your material here.

In Other Religions / Age of marriage in Hinduism
« on: June 12, 2022, 07:50:55 AM »
Historically, there was no minimum age for marriage in India throughout ages. Books considered sacred by Hindus point out that it was common for girls about 6 or 8 years old to be married. 

The laws of Manu also don't forbid that the girl is married before she attains the age of puberty:

88. To a distinguished, handsome suitor (of) equal (caste) should (a father) give his daughter in accordance with the prescribed rule, though she have not attained (the proper age).

The Gautama's Dharmasūtra, which is believed to be the oldest of the four Hindu Dharmasastras, doesn't consider puberty a prerequisite for marriage:

21. A girl should be given in marriage before (she attains the age of) puberty.

    22. He who neglects it, commits sin.

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« on: June 18, 2021, 12:56:16 AM »
-Scientifically speaking, it's impossible to determine the age of death of a historical figure whose womb is not examined.
-There is nothing that makes his age of death impossible. Allah is All-powerful.

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