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« Last post by QuranSearchCom on April 01, 2021, 01:13:22 PM »Likewise brother. May Allah Almighty further strengthen your faith in Islam. Ameen.
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« Last post by Qualities of Allah on March 31, 2021, 01:27:26 PM »Jazakallah brother Osama. My questions have been answered.
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« Last post by QuranSearchCom on March 31, 2021, 05:21:03 AM »Yes that has answered my questions. But one last question, this verse (5:5) says that we can eat the people of the book's food and they can eat ours. But Jews don't believe in eating Halal, they only eat Kosher (if they actually care about their religion). So why does this Verse make a generalization that they can eat our food when they can't (this doesn't apply to Christians, only Jews)?
Again, Islam came to free them from the burdens and chains that GOD Almighty put on them. Please read the link above. By this, Allah Almighty made the Muslims' Halal meat lawful for them, and any meat that was previously forbidden for them, such as camel's meat for example.
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« Last post by QuranSearchCom on March 31, 2021, 05:18:18 AM »Also the NT has unsettled open debates that their Holy Spit on the ground did not settle for them, such as must the the long list of the 600+ Jewish Laws be upheld and followed, also conflicts rose on whether must one eat Kosher meat or not, must one get circumcised, can one eat food offered to idols, and many other issues that the disciples fought each other on:
www.answering-christianity.com/12th_disciple_and_rolling_of_dice_lie.htm
Christianity was inspired by the lying spirits that GOD Almighty sends to false prophets and people in the OT. The real Holy Spirit is innocent from this war on GOD called "christianity":
www.answering-christianity.com/spirit.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/12th_disciple_and_rolling_of_dice_lie.htm
Christianity was inspired by the lying spirits that GOD Almighty sends to false prophets and people in the OT. The real Holy Spirit is innocent from this war on GOD called "christianity":
www.answering-christianity.com/spirit.htm
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« Last post by QuranSearchCom on March 31, 2021, 05:08:41 AM »I read these nonsensical tafsirs in the past. Some of them are quite ludicrous like their interpretation about the Miracle of the number 19 in the Glorious Quran:
www.answering-christianity.com/100_percent_guarantee_that_quran_is_divine.htm
There is no proof for Ibn Kathir's claim. He just made it up. Christians are very dismissing to religious customs. This is due to the hard burdens and chains (as the Glorious Quran describes it) of the Jewish Law that only Islam came to free the Jews from:
www.answering-christianity.com/was_muta_immoral.htm
Christianity did not free the Jews from the Law. Christianity is a war on GOD Almighty that turned sinful into lawful and lawful into sinful. Examples of this are pork became lawful, polygamy became sinful and many other blasphemies:
www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_problematic_hyperboles.htm
Christianity boasts that it did not come to invalidate the Jewish Law. Yet, it tramples all over it! Only Islam is the Divine Truth, and even the Jews' scriptures thoroughly speak about the New Covenant and NEW SONG, and new Gentile Prophet that will all come from Arabia:
www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/paran.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/100_percent_guarantee_that_quran_is_divine.htm
There is no proof for Ibn Kathir's claim. He just made it up. Christians are very dismissing to religious customs. This is due to the hard burdens and chains (as the Glorious Quran describes it) of the Jewish Law that only Islam came to free the Jews from:
www.answering-christianity.com/was_muta_immoral.htm
Christianity did not free the Jews from the Law. Christianity is a war on GOD Almighty that turned sinful into lawful and lawful into sinful. Examples of this are pork became lawful, polygamy became sinful and many other blasphemies:
www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_problematic_hyperboles.htm
Christianity boasts that it did not come to invalidate the Jewish Law. Yet, it tramples all over it! Only Islam is the Divine Truth, and even the Jews' scriptures thoroughly speak about the New Covenant and NEW SONG, and new Gentile Prophet that will all come from Arabia:
www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/paran.htm
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« Last post by Qualities of Allah on March 30, 2021, 08:04:25 PM »The Muslim is supposed to pronounce Allah Almighty's Holy Name on everything he/she eats, and before anything they do. So that suffices pronouncing Allah Almighty's Name.
Again, Christians existed during the days these Noble Verses came down. They never pronounced Allah Almighty's Holy Name on their food. The fact that the Glorious Quran gave us permissions to eat from their food (except what Islam prohibits, like pork) shows that the issue of prohibition and permission was addressed.
Certainly Islam considers many of them as polytheist trinitarian pagans. But their food is Halal for us, and Muslim men are also allowed to marry from their women. This is not the case with none-people-of-the-Book pagan food and women.
Sorry to keep distracting and bothering, but tafsir ibn Kathir said that the Christians (in the Prophet's time) used to pronounce Allah's name on their meat. Here is his tafsir,
"(The food of the People of the Scripture is lawful to you..) meaning, their slaughtered animals, as Ibn `Abbas, Abu Umamah, Mujahid, Sa`id bin Jubayr, `Ikrimah, `Ata', Al-Hasan, Makhul, Ibrahim An-Nakha`i, As-Suddi and Muqatil bin Hayyan stated. This ruling, that the slaughtered animals of the People of the Book are permissible for Muslims, is agreed on by the scholars, because the People of the Book believe that slaughtering for other than Allah is prohibited. They mention Allah's Name upon slaughtering their animals, even though they have deviant beliefs about Allah that do not befit His majesty."
So now I have two questions,
1. (Let me quote my last post)
Yes that has answered my questions. But one last question, this verse (5:5) says that we can eat the people of the book's food and they can eat ours. But Jews don't believe in eating Halal, they only eat Kosher (if they actually care about their religion). So why does this Verse make a generalization that they can eat our food when they can't (this doesn't apply to Christians, only Jews)?
2. The Christians did used to pronounce Allah's name on their food before, but not anymore according to Tafsir ibn Kathir. So why did you say that Christians never pronounced Allah's name on their meat in the Prophet's times?
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« Last post by Qualities of Allah on March 30, 2021, 06:55:56 PM »Yes that has answered my questions. But one last question, this verse (5:5) says that we can eat the people of the book's food and they can eat ours. But Jews don't believe in eating Halal, they only eat Kosher (if they actually care about their religion). So why does this Verse make a generalization that they can eat our food when they can't (this doesn't apply to Christians, only Jews)?
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« Last post by QuranSearchCom on March 29, 2021, 11:06:49 PM »They usually clean it thoroughly to prevent mixing of taste. But yes, if a restaurant mixes things or doesn't clean well, then it should be avoided. It is also best and always most preferred to eat Halal meat.
I hope this helps, insha'Allah.
I hope this helps, insha'Allah.
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« Last post by Qualities of Allah on March 29, 2021, 03:52:27 PM »Ok jazakallah for that. But I realized one thing. Lets say you eat from a Christian restaurant. Don't they cook chicken and pork in the same grill? Wouldn't the chicken be contaminated with the pork?
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« Last post by QuranSearchCom on March 29, 2021, 03:26:29 PM »The Muslim is supposed to pronounce Allah Almighty's Holy Name on everything he/she eats, and before anything they do. So that suffices pronouncing Allah Almighty's Name.
Again, Christians existed during the days these Noble Verses came down. They never pronounced Allah Almighty's Holy Name on their food. The fact that the Glorious Quran gave us permissions to eat from their food (except what Islam prohibits, like pork) shows that the issue of prohibition and permission was addressed.
Certainly Islam considers many of them as polytheist trinitarian pagans. But their food is Halal for us, and Muslim men are also allowed to marry from their women. This is not the case with none-people-of-the-Book pagan food and women.
Again, Christians existed during the days these Noble Verses came down. They never pronounced Allah Almighty's Holy Name on their food. The fact that the Glorious Quran gave us permissions to eat from their food (except what Islam prohibits, like pork) shows that the issue of prohibition and permission was addressed.
Certainly Islam considers many of them as polytheist trinitarian pagans. But their food is Halal for us, and Muslim men are also allowed to marry from their women. This is not the case with none-people-of-the-Book pagan food and women.
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