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refuting the moon god claim
« on: July 12, 2017, 12:56:54 PM »
assalamu alaikom,

in this page i will seek to adress this stupid argument of the moongod, but it is good to first see whi this argument is coming from, well it comes from christians, they try to prove from this we are pagan, but lets see who is pagan first. firstly christians believe in dying and rising mangods who died by their own creation, and gods who become babies, and they believe in 3 gods which are somehow 1 even though some of the gods are ignorant mark 13:32, they believe in 3 gods which have a hierachy in them, they believe the holy spirit and son are god even thoughthe father is higher which makes no sense because nobody is higher than god, they believe the son and holy spirit are god even though jesus called the father the only true god. and his god needs rainbows to remember things or else he will forget

genesis 9:13-15, 12And God said, “This is the sign of the covenant I am making between me and you and every living creature with you, a covenant for all generations to come: 13I have set my rainbow in the clouds, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and the earth. 14Whenever I bring clouds over the earth and the rainbow appears in the clouds, 15I will remember my covenant between me and you and all living creatures of every kind. Never again will the waters become a flood to destroy all life. 16Whenever the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will see it and remember the everlasting covenant between God and all living creatures of every kind on the earth.”

regarding the moongod now: this moongod claim is honestly the stupidest thing ever do you know that?

Quran 41:37 actually refutes this whole moongod nonsense: And of His signs are the night and day and the sun and moon. Do not prostrate to the sun or to the moon, but prostate to Allah , who created them, if it should be Him that you worship.

This says that allah created the moon, so think before allah created the moon. Was allah a moongod before he created the moon, very stupid and this verse alone refutes it.

This whole idea of allah as moon god comes from a guy named robert morey who said that we should nuke mecca because it would destroy the kaaba, wow such intelligence

For full refutations of moongod, see:

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/Allah/moongod.html

http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/08/the-allah-is-the-moon-god-nonsense-could-be-the-stupidest-anti-muslim-conspiracy-theory-yet-page-i/

http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/08/the-allah-is-the-moon-god-nonsense-could-be-the-stupidest-anti-muslim-conspiracy-theory-yet-page-ii/

http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/08/the-allah-is-the-moon-god-nonsense-could-be-the-stupidest-anti-muslim-conspiracy-theory-yet-page-iii/

http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/08/the-allah-is-the-moon-god-nonsense-could-be-the-stupidest-anti-muslim-conspiracy-theory-yet-page-iv/

http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/08/the-allah-is-the-moon-god-nonsense-could-be-the-stupidest-anti-muslim-conspiracy-theory-yet-page-v-conclusion/

http://www.answering-christianity.com/moongod1.htm

https://callingchristians.com/2012/08/01/allah-the-moon-god-myth-or-reality/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmLVq70VlEE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs8yIwz0XfY

you guys are like people that still bring up the moon god lie and the satanic verses lie lol, such stupid things which are false, like me saying that yahweh is yah the moon god of egypt: http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=1918.0 or that jesus is just a copy of horus

the quran never makes the moon something higher than other things, the moon and sun are just signs and never more in the quran, but in your bible:

1 Chronicles 23:31 They must also give thanks and sing praises when sacrifices are offered on each Sabbath, as well as during New Moon Festivals and other religious feasts. There must always be enough Levites on duty at the temple to do everything that needs to be done.

Numbers 10:10 During the celebration of the New Moon Festival and other religious festivals, sound the trumpets while you offer sacrifices. This will be a reminder that I am the LORD your God.

1 Samuel 20:5 David answered: Tomorrow is the New Moon Festival, and I'm supposed to eat dinner with your father. But instead, I'll hide in a field until the evening of the next day.

1 Samuel 20:18 After this Jonathan said: Tomorrow is the New Moon Festival, and people will wonder where you are, because your place will be empty.

The Jews even celebrated the new moon with their "Festivals" as these verses, and many more in the Bible, clearly state!  Does this now mean that the Jews worship the new moon?

but in islam: They ask thee Concerning the New Moons.  Say:   They are but signs To mark fixed periods of time In (the affairs of) men, And for Pilgrimage.  It is no virtue if ye enter the houses from the back:  It is virtue if ye fear Allah.  Enter houses Through the proper doors:  And fear Allah:   That ye may prosper.  (The Noble Quran, 2:189)"

so the moon means more in your religion than in ours,

and you might ask why there is a moon symbol on our mosques, well, firstly i challenge you to find me 1 quranic verse, or 1 hadith which says to put crescent moons on the mosques, there is not 1 and muhammad never put crescent moons on his mosques.

what happened was in the time of the ottoman empite their logo was: the crescent moon. Why? well they follow the lunar calendar, and checked the moon for ramadan, OR they could have taken in from the byzantine coins.

so when they adopted this as their logo on their flags, they saw that christians had crosses on their churches, so the ottomans seeked to distinguish their buildings to show that these are mosques with their logo of crescent moon on it, see: https://www.thoughtco.com/the-crescent-moon-a-symbol-of-islam-2004351

according to islamqa a site where learned scholars answer questions: "It was said that the reason why the Muslims adopted the crescent was that when they conquered some western countries, the churches there had crosses on top of them, the Muslims replaced the crosses with these crescents, and the practice spread in this way" https://islamqa.info/en/1528

and some scholars have even forbid the action of putting moons on the mosques because it is not supposed to be there, has no islamic basis and is just an innovation that happened when muslim countries wanted to distinguish their buildings: https://islamqa.info/en/1528 and https://islamqa.info/en/575

a fatwa of islamweb says: Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds; and blessings and peace be upon our Prophet Muhammad and upon all his Family and Companions. Muslim architects have been using the sign of crescent in their art only to decorate buildings. When Muslim rulers conquered Christian areas, they observed the sign of the Cross on churches. Thus, they might be pleased with the sign of crescent and from this you may know it using (crescent) is not a religious matter and there is no authenticity for it in Islam. But this may signify the Mosques in non-Muslim countries. An outsider may easily identify it. You should know that picture of the crescent or any other picture does not have any relation with faith and worship. If any body sees it as a religious matter, then, this is considered an innovation in religion, which is a big sin. Allah knows better. Fatwa No : 81248 Fatwa Date : Jumaadaa Al-Aakhir 23, 1420 / 3-10-1999


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Re: refuting the moon god claim
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2017, 04:59:57 AM »
Christian apologetics need arguments to defend their religion that believe in God that manifested in human form that died and raised from death after 3 days as the only mean of salvation to those who chose to believe.

 

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