Author Topic: Is it true that a non-Muslim can go to paradise if he commit good deeds?!  (Read 5737 times)

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Offline AhmadFarooq

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That doesn't make any sense. Just because that verse was revealed during the revelation of Islam Doesn't mean that it won't apply now. That's a flawed logic.

I literally have no idea how you came to such a conclusion. How does mentioning the context of the revelation of a verse, or the question that a verse is possibly answering, naturally conclude that the verse is no longer applicable?

When some individual or some exegesist mentions that alcohol was prohibited in the context that it caused social evils in the society or that Jihad was allowed in the context of defending against the Quraish, do you also accuse them of making no "sense" and using "flawed logic"? Or is this honour limited to myself alone?

Christians believe in trinity

With the risk of being accused of splitting hairs, what about the Unitarian Christians? Or as some Muslims argue there were many Christians who rejected the Trinity idea even up-to late first millennium CE. These Christians are argued to had been assimilated into the new Muslim populations of those times. See Dr. Jerald Dirks lectures.

Secondly the Quran told us that whoever follows any other religion than Islam will not be accepted.

I'm not a scholar so I may be making a mistake, but where does the Qur'an say exactly that? From my humble understanding, the verse is talking about the religion Islam being the only acceptable one, there is no mention of the people following other religions.

Additionally, what about the Jews? After all, the Qur'an clearly says that Allah can forgive all sins except associating partners with Him. Or did this verse also got abrogated?

Evidence please, I highly doubt that there's any scholar who believes that those verses are only talking about the infidels during the prophet ( ﷺ )'s time.

Go through this, and then tell me which Kafir you know to have received the correct form or interpretation of Islam, had no remaining unanswered questions but still rejected Islam out of malice or arrogance.

Offline A proud Muslim

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With the risk of being accused of splitting hairs, what about the Unitarian Christians? Or as some Muslims argue there were many Christians who rejected the Trinity idea even up-to late first millennium CE. These Christians are argued to had been assimilated into the new Muslim populations of those times. See Dr. Jerald Dirks lectures.
Hmm....Well, Christianity have been divided to many categories, so it would pretty hard to assume which one is the true unless you have read and comprehend the bible. The trinity category is most acceptable one beyond them, so maybe it's the one that really follows the bible.

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I'm not a scholar so I may be making a mistake, but where does the Qur'an say exactly that? From my humble understanding, the verse is talking about the religion Islam being the only acceptable one, there is no mention of the people following other religions.

Additionally, what about the Jews? After all, the Qur'an clearly says that Allah can forgive all sins except associating partners with Him. Or did this verse also got abrogated?

What about this?
And whoever desires other than Islam as religion – never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers. Quran (Al Imran:85)

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Go through this, and then tell me which Kafir you know to have received the correct form or interpretation of Islam, had no remaining unanswered questions but still rejected Islam out of malice or arrogance.
I thought that you meant that kaffirs who did good deeds will go to heaven. Apparently I misunderstand you.

Offline AhmadFarooq

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The trinity category is most acceptable one beyond them, so maybe it's the one that really follows the bible.
I'm sure non-trinitarian Christians would like to fervently disagree on the matter.

And whoever desires other than Islam as religion – never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers. Quran (Al Imran:85)
... Unless Allah chooses to forgive the "losers" (from what I understand).

Offline AMuslimDude213

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For how long has this discussion been going?

 

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