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such wish seduced the writers of the Bible to produce encouraging ,hopeful texts for the masses ....a future Earthly king who will turn the Earth into Paradise ....
One hoped for and foresaw a restoration of the splendor of old, realized in the in gathering of the dispersed in the Land of Israel so as to reconstitute the monocentricity of the monarchic age, and the restoration of national sovereignty under a Davidic Anointed. The spiritual dimension of Jewish messianism continued to manifest itself in historical realism and societal factuality.
The memory of those days inspired later biblical writers, and upon it they modeled their vision of the future. They described such so called messiah with all the wishful thinking a human being may imagine ..

He will be
a descended from King David via Solomon (Isaiah 11:1)  (1 Chronicles 22:8-10, 2 Chronicles 7:18).and during his era all the Israelites will be returned to their homeland (Isaiah 11:12) ,  Nations will recognize the wrongs they did to Israel (Isaiah 52:13-53:5),All the peoples of the world will turn to the Jews for spiritual guidance (Zechariah 8:23),the whole world will worship the One God of Israel (Isaiah 2:11-17), death will be swallowed up forever (Isaiah 25:8), There will be no more hunger or illness, and death will cease (Isaiah 25:8), All of the dead will rise again (Isaiah 26:19), The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 51:11),The ruined cities of Israel will be restored (Ezekiel 16:55) , Weapons of war will be destroyed (Ezekiel 39:9), He will take the barren land and make it abundant and fruitful (Isaiah 51:3)...

He won't be:

1- The Messiah is not portrayed in Early Judaism as a miracle worker .
2- No evidence that Jews during the time of Jesus considered that God's Messiah would come and suffer.
3- The reference to the death of the Messiah in 4 Ezra 7:29 is not a Christian interpolation into this Jewish apocalypse.But the death of the Messiah here is not efficacious and is clearly distinct from the Christian affirmation about Jesus. According to 4 Ezra 7, the Messiah's death serves to mark the end of a set period of time and history.
4- The rabbinic references to two Messiahs, one of whom will die, postdate the second Century C . E . , and, therefore, are too late to be used to portray the messianology of the early Jews.
5-  Nowhere in the Old Testament has the term (messiah) O'tra acquired its later technical sense as an eschatological title.


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what were the other Jewish expectations?

It is the keyword for the problem of christianity: It is?


4- The Messiah:



The Jewish texts have to be discussed(skipping the christian text for the moment) ..in order to understand the term as originally was thought to be ,also visiting the term in its original Jewish context would enable us to understand the basic problem between Jews and Christians aka ( "From Jewish Messianology to Christian Christology) ......


The term messiah has both technical and non- technical use....

The non-technical use of the term is simply to designate "one anointed” [with oil and/or the Holy Spirit], but especially one who had been set apart by God and enabled for a special task.

The technical use of the term , a future King of Israel, physically descended from the Davidic line, who will rule the united tribes of Israel and herald the Messianic Age of global peace.

before reading the scriptural requirements concerning the Messiah, what he will do, and what will be done during his reign ...

No doubt ,during the Davidic kingdom the Jews were in their Glorious Days ....

Holy Quran [34:10] We endowed David with blessings from us: "O mountains, submit with him, and you too, O birds." We softened the iron for him. "You may make shields that fit perfectly, and work righteousness. Whatever you do, I am Seer thereof.

Holy Quran 27:16 And Solomon was David's heir. He said: "O ye people! We have been taught the speech of birds, and on us has been bestowed  of all things: this is indeed Grace manifest "





The bible describe that period of the united monarchy under David and Solomon. Then Israel had been saved by David's exploits from any immediate danger of wars and vassaldom to other nations, and had achieved in the days of his son an unmatched State of peace and well-being: The people of Judah and Israel were countless as the sands of the sea(shores);they ate and they drank and enjoyed life. Solomon ruled over all the kingdoms

from the river Euphrates to Phüistia as far as the frontier of Egypt; they paid tribute and were subject to him all his life . . . For he was paramount over all the land vvest of the Euphrates from Tiphsah to Gaza, ruling all the kings west of the river; and he enjoyed peace on all sides. All through his reign Judah and Israel lived securely, every man under his vine and his fig-tree, from Dan to Beersheba .


but the fact

Holy Quran 3:26Say: O Allah, Master of the Kingdom! Thou givest the kingdom to whomsoever Thou pleasest and takest away the kingdom from whomsoever Thou pleasest.



The monarchy falls apart and Israel falls to the Assyrians in 721; Judah falls to the Babylonians in 597.
logically there has been (and still) a Jewish longing for the golden days of the Davidic empire ........
Israelite royal theology, at least as transmitted in Judah, regarded the Davidic dynasty
as eternally guaranteed by God, in times of severe crisis the tradition of Yahweh's
eternal covenant with David could serve as basis for the hope that God would soon restore the monarchy to its former glory by raising up a new scion of the Davidic line.

the political disasters of the late eighth century, including the destruction of the northern kingdom and the deportation of a significant portion of the population of the Southern kingdom, produced widespread longing for the unity,strength, and justice of the idealized united monarchy of the past. Isaiah reflects that longing in a number of oracles dating from the period of the Syro-Ephraimite war,' it is clearly expressed in Isa 1:21-26.



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Assalamu Alaikum

I have 2  points:

1- Some people I knew online before, commented on the site ,they praised it but one of them said ; that sometimes she don't like the over use of the colors and the big fonts.....
another one said ; he think some articles needs to be arranged better ,I don't know exactly what he meant by arranged ....  I remember also he said that in the middle of some articles there is much reference to other links......

now when it comes to my opinion ,my hope that one day we sections in the site with some other languages ....

I have a last question ,but about the blog ....  is there a tool of editing the posts?
also why it is that long (300 seconds) to be able to post again ?

last word .. It seems that there are some foolish persons come to spam the blog initiating threads with stupid publicity .... Brother Osama ,plz ban them...


peace be upon you...



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some Jews after seeing the signs Jesus performed thought of him (wrongly) as such special prophet ...

John 6:14 After the people saw the sign Jesus performed, they began to say, “Surely this is the Prophet who is to come into the world.”

John 7:40  On hearing his words, some of the people said, “Surely this man is the Prophet.”

Acts 3:20 and He may send Jesus Christ who before hath been preached to you, whom it behoveth heaven, indeed, to receive till times of a restitution of all things, of which God spake through the mouth of all His holy prophets from the age. 22`For Moses, indeed, unto the fathers said -- A prophet to you shall the Lord your God raise up out of your brethren, like to me; him shall ye hear in all things, as many as he may speak unto you; 23and it shall be, every soul that may not hear that prophet shall be utterly destroyed out of the people.


2- Old prophet came back to the scene:


Luke 9:8 Now Herod the tetrarch heard about all that was going on. And he was perplexed because some were saying that John had been raised from the dead, 8 others that Elijah had appeared, and still others that one of the prophets of long ago had come back to life.

Mark 8:28 They replied, "Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah."

Matthew 16:14 They replied, "Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets."

3- A prophet:

the way some Jews reacted with Jesus according to the new testament ,shows that they were open to accept the idea of a new prophet ,and it seems that they wouldn't make it conditional that the prophet must has been mentioned in a prediction in the old testament...

Matthew 16:14 They replied, "Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets."

John 9:17 Then they turned again to the blind man, “What have you to say about him? It was your eyes he opened.” The man replied, “He is a prophet.”

John 4:19 “Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet.

Luke 7:16 Then he went up and touched the bier they were carrying him on, and the bearers stood still. He said, “Young man, I say to you, get up!” 15 The dead man sat up and began to talk, and Jesus gave him back to his mother. 16 They were all filled with awe and praised God. “A great prophet has appeared among us,” they said. “God has come to help his people.” 17 This news about Jesus spread throughout Judea and the surrounding country.



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What is the concept of the messiah ? in one word it is a wish , desire,such desire didn't begin with the New testament but much older ......

we need to get an outline of the ancient Jewish history before we go to define the term "davidic king messiah":

The period of the Judges begins after the the 40 years in the wilderness described in Exodus. Moses dies before reaching Canaan. Once the Hebrews reach the promised land, they find they are in frequent conflict with the neighboring regions. They need leaders to guide them in battle. The leaders are the judges who also handle more traditional judicial matters as well. Joshua comes first.There is archaeological evidence of Israel at this time. It comes from the Merneptah Stele, which is currently dated to 1209 B.C.......
The period of the united monarchy begins when the judge Samuel reluctantly anoints Saul as king of the tribes of Israel. During Saul's kingship, the Philistines attack and a young shepherd named David volunteers for a one-on-one with the fiercest of the Philistines, a giant named Goliath. With a single stone from his slingshot, David fells the Philistine and wins a reputation that outshines Saul's. When Saul dies, David replaces him as king and when David dies, his son by Bathsheba becomes the wise King Solomon. This information is basically from the Bible, with only occasional support from archaeology.
After Solomon, the United Monarchy falls apart.Jerusalem is the capital of Judah, the southern Kingdom, which is led by Rehoboam. Its inhabitants are the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and Simeon (and some Levi). Simeon and Judah later merge.
Jeroboam leads a revolt of the northern tribes to form the Kingdom of Israel. The 9 tribes that make up Israel are Zebulun, Issachar, Asher, Naphtali, Dan, Menasseh, Ephraim, Reuben and Gad (and some Levi). The capital of Israel is Samaria. (Israel falls to the Assyrians in 721; Judah falls to the Babylonians in 597.)In 722 - Assyrians, under Shalmaneser, and then under Sargon, conquer Israel and destroy Samaria. Jews are exiled.In 612 - Nabopolassar of Babylonia destroys Assyria.In 587 - Nebuchadnezzar II seizes Jerusalem. The Temple is destroyed.In 586 - Babylonia conquers Judah. Exile to Babylon.Diaspora: 722 (Israel) and 586 (Judah). In 539 - the Babylonian Empire falls to Persia which is ruled by Cyrus. In 537 - Cyrus allows Jews from Babylon back into Jerusalem.
From 550-333 - The Persian Empire rules Israel.From 520-515 - Second Temple is built.After Alexander dies, Ptolemy I Soter takes Egypt and becomes king of Palestine in 305.250. - The beginning of the Pharisees, Sadducees, and Essenes.
198. - Seleucid King Antiochus III (Antiochus the Great) ousts Ptolemy V from Judah and Samaria.63 B.C. - Pompey makes the region of Judah/Israel a client kingdom of Rome.6 A.D. - Augustus makes it a Roman province (Judaea).
66 - 73. - Revolt.70. - Romans occupy Jerusalem. Titus destroys the Second Temple.

During that history that is rich with political glory and disasters , appeared in the Jewish sacred books predictions of various figures...
what were the Jewish expectations before the mission of Jesus ?
In order to check the varied expectations of the Jews before the mission of Jesus we need to visit the sources of Jewish thought before 70 C . E ,and the new testament .

The Jews were expecting a prophet who could be :

1- A special prophet ;one like Moses :

Deu 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

The Jews used to include such expectation alongside the hope of the messiah king up till the time of Jesus

John 1:21 They asked him, “Then who are you? Are you Elijah?” He said, “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” He answered, “No.”


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Jesus came with noble purposes " affirming monotheism,warning against shirk, abolishing the hard laws ,coming to a common word in some religious conflicts).

Is that something that should get those Jews that angry with Jesus, accusing him and his mother ?!

The fact is that ,those Jews weren't interested in receiving such usual prophets ,who would criticize them and their community ...

Those Jews ambitioned more than what is mere a social preacher. they had the desires of the character that when God will send ,they would be freed from the political depression and humility,getting back the glory of their past during the kingdom of David, and turning the whole world into paradise...

Those are the real desires that made them reject Jesus ,Allah calls those desires as vain..

Holy Quran 28:50 If they do not respond to you, you will know that they follow only their own desires. Who is further astray than the one who follows his own desires with no guidance from God?
 
Holy Quran 47:14 Can those who follow clear proof from their Lord be compared to those whose foul deeds are made to seem alluring to them, those who follow their own desires?


The Jewish (and christian as well) desires are based all on a figure was foretold  in the old testament ,it is (the awaited king messiah) ... 

investigating the issue of that figure is the golden clue to understand almost everything regarding the New Testament and Christianity ,getting clue of where the problem of Christianity all began.

1- The analysis of that problem will enable the readers to understand the reasons why the Jews from the time of the New Testament till now,reject Jesus (as depicted in the New Testament) .

2- That is the most solid arena of examining the trustworthy of the writings of the new testament ,we will find out later in the study how the vain desires of the messiah made the writers of the new testament intentionally distort,pervert lots of passages from the old testament for the purpose of of indoctrination ,which clearly refute the concept that the New testament theologies are truly inspired by God.

3- Through exposing such problem,  Muslims are invited the safest ,most solid way to test the claim of Jesus divinity ...., I will invite the readers to test the trinity in the laboratory of the Messiah !?

In other words ,If Jesus is believed by the writers of the new testament as the long awaited Davidic messiah king (will be proved to be false) ,and "assuming" it is believed by them to be God as well..... Isn't proving the first to be false strongly requires the second to be false too? If Jesus is not the so called Davidic messiah,that logically leads to him not being the so called incarnated God ,as well.....isn't it?
test the so called divine Jesus ,if he failed as the davidic messiah he would fail as God as well....
Have you realized the tremendous importance of the issue? that is why I made it my first study here ...


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welcome and Jazakumallah kharan brothers mYucesan and Final Overture ....

and May Allah strengthen us to make our best efforts in worship,in the last greatest days in Ramdan...  Ameen


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You still wonder, why the worship of Jesus ,Mary and the saints is being attacked rather than the holy spirit? !!!!



to conclude the point of Mary ,let's quote a non Muslim objective writer

Quote from: Professor David Thomas ,Encyclopaedia of the Qur’an
verse 5:73 attacks the notion that God could have partners in his divinity. The teaching in this verse is certainly that Christians place other beings alongside the true God. If it is taken in its context, the implication can be drawn from q 5:72 and 75 that one of these is Jesus, while from the firm emphasis on his and his mother's human needs in q 5:75 (“Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger [q.v.]… and his mother was a woman of truth [q.v.]; they had both to eat food”; see food and drink; prophets and prophethood ), it is even possible to infer that the other was Mary
Whether or not this is the intention in q 5:73, the second reference in the Qurān to three deities makes such an accusation explicit. This is in q 5:116: “And behold! God will say: ‘O Jesus, the son of Mary! Did you say to people (al-nās), “Take me and my mother for two gods beside God?”’ He will say, ‘Glory to you ! Never could I say what I had no right .’” In what is intended as an eschatological interrogation of Jesus, God brings up a claim evidently associated with him, that he encouraged people to regard himself and Mary as gods besides God (min dūni llāh). The implication is that Christians made him the source of the wrong belief they hold Strictly speaking, this verse need not be read as a reference to a version of the Trinity but rather as an example of shirk, claiming divinity for beings other than God . As such, it could be understood as a warning against excessive devotion to Jesus and extravagant veneration of Mary, a reminder linked to the central theme of the Qurān that there is only one God and he alone is to be worshiped. .


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Quote from: Cutting Edge christian Ministries
While Catholics believe they are venerating the Virgin Mary and Divine Child Jesus in the Biblical tradition, the evidence is overwhelming that they are really continuing the Egyptian and Babylonian pagan tradition of worshipping the Sun Goddess and her Divine Son. Once more, Roman Catholicism is shown to be counterfeit Christianity on the surface but Sun God paganism throughout underneath!



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Quote from: Seventh Day Adventist Michael Scheifler of Bible Light Ministries

THE WORSHIP OF THE VIRGIN MARY
 THE most popular form of idolatry that ever captivated the human heart is the worship of Mary. To the unwedded priest of  contemplative mind, Mary has every beauty, every charm, every divine grace. Pure enough to be the chosen mother of that human body in which Deity dwelt, unapproached in her unparalleled honors, chaste as the unspotted snow; she is the queen of his imagination, the ravishing idol of his heart. And as the mistress of his affections, he sings her praises, proclaims her glories, and gives her glowing homage. Those who fail to worship Mary, in his sight, are destitute of moral taste and perception; they are blind to beauty; they are governed by heartless ingratitude; they have no ear for the sweetest voice that ever fell on the ears of angels, or sent its thrilling melodies through the wounds of a bleeding heart.

Quote from: Pastor E.L. Bynum
Wherever Roman Catholics are found, you will find the practice of rank idolatry. The worship of Mary is one part of this unscriptural practice.

Quote from: Mary Ann Collins (A Former Catholic Nun)

As a faithful Catholic, and later as a nun, I practiced Mary worship for many years without realizing it.....................
If you want to see what a person's real priorities are, then watch what they do when their life, or the life of a loved one, is in danger. When Pope John Paul II was shot, while the ambulance was rushing him to the hospital, the Pope was not praying to God or calling on the name of Jesus. He kept saying, over and over, “Mary, my mother!” Polish pilgrims placed a picture of Our Lady of Czestochowa on the throne where the Pope normally sat. People gathered around the picture. Vatican loudspeakers broadcasted the prayers of the rosary. When the Pope recovered, he gave Mary all the glory for saving his life.......
If you are not persuaded that Catholicism encourages and even requires a level of “devotion” to Mary that really is a form of worship, then I challenge you to ask God what He thinks about it.


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will let the christian protestant (whom though they practice shirk themselves while praying to the human Jesus yet have the advantage of avoiding Mary and saints worship) voice speak ...

just a sample quotes:

Quote from: Roman Catholic Mary Worship by the evangelical minister John MacArthur Jr. 
The Roman Catholic view of Mary is pagan, it is utterly pagan.

Quote from: Philip Schaff Excerpted from: "History of the Christian Church": Volume III, Nicene and Post-Nicene Christianity, A.D. 311-390 Chapter VII, P. 409-427 (§ 81.-83.)
To this day the worship of Mary is one of the principal points of separation between the Graeco-Roman Catholicism and Evangelical Protestantism.
the veneration of Mary gradually degenerated into the worship of Mary; and this took so deep hold upon the popular religious life in the Middle Age, that, in spite of all scholastic distinctions between latria, and dulia, and hyrerdulia, Mariolatry practically prevailed over the worship of Christ.
..The popular religious want had accustomed itself even to female deities, and very naturally betook itself first of all to Mary, the highly favored and blessed mother of the divine-human Redeemer, as the worthiest object of adoration.
The Festivals of Mary.
This mythical and fantastic, and, we must add, almost pagan and idolatrous Mariology impressed itself on the public cultus in a series of festivals, celebrating the most important facts and fictions of the life of the Virgin, and in some degree running parallel with the festivals of the birth, resurrection, and ascension of Christ.

Quote from: Roman Catholicism, Mary, and Idolatry ,by Matt Slick, President and Founder of the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry.
Does the Roman Catholic Church promote idolatry? According to the scripture and its own practices, yes it does. "Therefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry," (1 Cor. 10:14).

 
Quote from: Nick Goggin
Watchmen Bible Study Group
It has been said that actions speak louder than words. And while the average Catholic may tell you that they do not worship the Mother Mary, their actions say something quite different. Let's examine the danger in this.


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Christian: what about the Quran mention of Jesus and Mary eating food?


Muslim:

Quote from:  Kitkat21 ,Islamic view of the trinity,Wikipedia.....
I'm sorry but your arguments make a number of assumptions and liberal interpretations to reach your desired conclusions. First, you make the assumption that the argument the Koran is putting forward is that since Mary and Jesus eat food, neither is God. Therefore, the Koran believes Mary is part of the Trinity. However, the argument could be easily construed, since Mary and Jesus ate food, both are nothing but plain humans. This doesn't imply that Mary was part of the trinity Godhead in the Koranic view, but merely that in the Koranic view Christians viewed her as something aside from another plain human being. As is described in the article itself, some Christian sects truly worshiped her and the Church itself put her forth as Godbearer, which is more than just another human being. Indeed, Catholics continue to address prayers to her, an act that would be considered shirk in Islam (i.e., associating others with God). Hence, the Koranic argument need not be interpreted as anything more than that Jesus and Mary are both human beings.


Christian: where is in the Qur'an the holy spirit isn’t God and how do you explain nowhere in the Quran the worship of the holy spirit is condemned?


By saying the holy spirit is Gabriel ,created is negating the divinity, isn’t it?

you remember when I said that it seems that the Quran counts for ones actions in worship? Though Mary(saints also) is not thought divine yet worshiped, On the other hand the holy spirit is thought to be divine yet hardly is worshiped....

How many images, idols are those of Mary and Jesus is bowed to, prayed to ,asked for help and mercy compared to those of the holy spirit….

listen to the common prayers in the christian world:

"Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.
Lord Jesus help me protect me save me etc......"

or let's listen to the common prayers of the world's largest Christian church, with over a billion members.

"Most Holy Virgin Mary, Help of Christian,how sweet it is to come to your feet imploring your perpetual help.If earthly mothers cease not to remember their children,how can you, the most loving of all mothers forget me?Grant then to me, I implore you, your perpetual help in all my necessities, in every sorrow, and especially in all my temptations.I ask for your unceasing help for all who are now suffering.Help the weak, cure the sick, convert sinners.Grant through your intercessions many vocations to the religious life. Obtain for us, O Mary, Help of Christians,that having invoked you on earth we may love and eternally thank you in heaven."

"Holy Mary,help those in need,give strength to the weak,comfort the sorrowful,pray for God's people,assist the clergy,intercede for religious.Mary all who seek your help experience your unfailing protection.Amen."

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the same words (to take instead) are used in:

Holy Quran   9:31 They have taken  their learned men and their monks for their lords instead of God. So have they taken the Messiah, son of Mary, although they were commanded to worship only the One God. There is no deity but He. He is far above whatever they set up as His partners!

Have you seen,what the verse saying ?

1- your intentions should be consistent with your actions that counts ,it is not what you think you are doing but what you REALLY do.
2- veneration, asking for intercession etc . is considered worship in Islam even if the object of veneration is not believed to be divine…. It is enough that you direct any form of worship that is due to God alone for anyone, anything to turn him, her ,it to be god

2- though the objects of worshiped mentioned in the same verse viewed differently by their worshipers (Jesus as divine,saints are not) yet that is not the focus of the verse, the focus is on the act of worship itself, that is why it says " they were commanded to worship only the One God" ...

the same way with verse

Holy Quran 5:116 And as Allah said, "O Isa son of Maryam, (Jesus son of Mary) did you say to mankind, "Take me and my mother to your selves as two gods, apart fromAllah '?" He said, All Extolment be to You! In no way is it for me to say what I have no right to.


The verse is just one example of, the thought to be divine(Jesus) and the thought to be not divine yet could be intercessor and be venerated (Mary),be taken as gods ..
another verse

Holy Quran 3:64 SAY: "People of the Book, [let us] rally to a common formula to be binding on both us and you, that we shall worship only God [Alone] a associate nothing else with Him, nor shall any of us take on others as lords instead of God." If they should turn away, then say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims."

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                                         Mary, belong to the Trinity?


Christian:  what about the understanding that the trinity that the Quran is concerned about is , father, son, marry?
quran 5:119, reads: “And behold! God will say: “O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, “Worship me and my mother as gods instead of God”? He will say: “Glory to thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say).

Muslim: Nothing better than understanding the Qur'an by the Qur'an.....we need to check the verses with that use the same expression the expression is :

TO TAKE-WORSHIP اتخذوا  (X) , INSTEAD-IN DEROGATION OF  من دون (ALLAH) .....

 The formula (to take ....instead) is used inside and outside the context of worship....     Eg;
Holy Quran 27:55 "You are taking the men out of lust instead of the women! No, you are an ignorant people!"
Does the verse suggest those men as taking men for sexual pleasure besides women? Not at all ....The meaning is though they know the normal object for sexual intercourse (women) they approached the abnormal object(men) instead

The formula is used inside the context of worship in numerous instances

Holy Quran 27:24 I found her and her folk prostrating herself to the sun—instead of God—and Satan made to appear pleasing to them their actions and barred them from the way so they are not truly guided.

It seems that those folk could have thought the sun as God .

Holy Quran 39:38 If you should ask them who created Heaven and Earth, they would say: "God." SAY: "Have you (all) ever seen what you appeal to instead of  God [Alone]? If God wanted [to cause] me any trouble, would such females ever remove His trouble? Or if He wants some mercy for me, will such females hold back His mercy?" SAY: "God is [the Means] by Which I reckon; on Him do the reliant rely."

Holy Quran  10:18 They worship, instead of Allah, what can neither harm them nor help them, saying, ´These are our intercessors with Allah.´ Say: ´Would you inform Allah of something about which He does not know either in the heavens or on the earth?´ May He be glorified and exalted above what they associate with Him!

Holy Quran  36:23 Should I adopt other gods instead of Him? If the Mercy-giving should want any harm to me, their intercession would never help me out in any way nor would they rescue me:

Holy Quran  39:43 Or do they adopt intercessors instead of God? SAY: "Even though they do not control a thing and cannot even reason?"


we note that the previous objects of worship are (1) called gods .  (2) their worshipers didn't believe in them as God the creator ,they just intercede.



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