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Blasphemy: Satan is God, according to the Bible
« on: October 20, 2017, 08:46:54 PM »
Watch this video by Christian preacher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaVWgewj1Ts


Brother Osama, what do you think about this topic?


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Re: Blasphemy: Satan is God, according to the Bible
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2017, 10:19:03 PM »
It's not blasphemy at all if we take the bible into context for example Psalm 82:1-6

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Re: Blasphemy: Satan is God, according to the Bible
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2017, 11:39:04 PM »
Shaad,

What do you mean? Are you saying it's not blasphemous if satan is God?

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Re: Blasphemy: Satan is God, according to the Bible
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2017, 12:17:34 AM »
Look brother, i'm just tryna say that the word "God" has a wider meaning in the bible...when  Paul says that Satan is the god of this world he doesn't mean that the devil is God Almighty himself, what he really means is that Satan has a major Influence on this world and he's kinda like a ruler...please read Psalm 82:1-6 and Exodus 7:1 to understand what i'm trying to say...

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Re: Blasphemy: Satan is God, according to the Bible
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2017, 02:59:19 PM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

Interesting video, dear brother Albarra.  I will have to watch it a few times to digest its points.  I'll watch it insha'Allah again and see where I can use its points on the website.

Jazaka Allah Khayr.  Ameen.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Blasphemy: Satan is God, according to the Bible
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2017, 01:52:56 AM »
He does a great job exposing modern translations though and this is a lesson for muslims as well due to the fact we often get bombarded with bible verses when having discussion with missionaries....

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Re: Blasphemy: Satan is God, according to the Bible
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2017, 06:06:20 PM »
Look brother, i'm just tryna say that the word "God" has a wider meaning in the bible...when  Paul says that Satan is the god of this world he doesn't mean that the devil is God Almighty himself, what he really means is that Satan has a major Influence on this world and he's kinda like a ruler...please read Psalm 82:1-6 and Exodus 7:1 to understand what i'm trying to say...

The problem isn't that, although there is a chance he was calling God Satan, he used the same spelling reserved for "The God", Tontheon, I believe.

While the Logos/Word is only theirs, divine.

That is what people mean when pointing thus out, it's not capitalized, theos is, which is dishonest and inconsistent with their own system of translating those words.

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Re: Blasphemy: Satan is God, according to the Bible
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2017, 06:10:29 PM »
This I learned from Ahmed Deedat, still have the book which quotes him.

His major issue was the translating of Tontheon as God, ignoring the use of a different word with different meaning, because it deceives people that John 1 clearly say "Jesus is God." The Word was divine/theos, not God/Tontheon.

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Re: Blasphemy: Satan is God, according to the Bible
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2017, 09:55:51 PM »
Ghazali,

ἐν  οἷς     ὁ     θεὸς
En  Hois  Ho Theos

So it is not "Ton Theon" but "Ho Theos", and i agree it is used for YHWH, what i want to say is that we should take the epistles into context first otherwise we can use the same logic in the old testament and say it contains blasphemy because humans are called Elohim and i'm pretty sure you know that Elohim is used for YHWH as well...or a better example is John 20:28 which can cause confusion, so it's all a matter of context..

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Re: Blasphemy: Satan is God, according to the Bible
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2017, 06:07:01 AM »
I'm very glad that Brother Albarra found it blasphemous by the way....any real Muslim would have the same reaction...MashAllah...

 

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