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Did jesus has risen from dead ? claimed by Missionaries
« on: October 02, 2015, 07:17:15 AM »
Please response this Luke 24: 5-6 cl

5 In their fright the women bowed down with their faces to the ground, but the men said to them, “Why do you look for the living among the dead? 6 He is not here; he has risen! Remember how he told you, while he was still with you in Galilee:

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Re: Did jesus has risen from dead ? claimed by Missionaries
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2015, 09:05:20 AM »
Please response this Luke 24: 5-6 cl

5 In their fright the women bowed down with their faces to the ground, but the men said to them, “Why do you look for the living among the dead? 6 He is not here; he has risen! Remember how he told you, while he was still with you in Galilee:

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

Indeed, why look for Isa the Messiah, peace be upon him, among the dead?  He never died.  He was taken up.  And the Bible in Psalm 91, Isaiah 53 and other places clearly declare that Isa (Jesus) will never die.  Please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_53.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/psalm_91.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm


Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Did jesus has risen from dead ? claimed by Missionaries
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2015, 05:00:47 AM »
 Luke 24:6

6 He is not here; he has RISEN!

hmm...

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Re: Did jesus has risen from dead ? claimed by Missionaries
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2015, 10:17:49 AM »
 6 He is not here; he has risen! Remember how he told you, while he was still with you in Galilee:
7 ‘The Son of Man must be delivered over to the hands of sinners, be crucified and on the third day be raised again.


Basically, the story says human god had preached to them in advance where he will perform a divine suicide, and he also said he will wake up again but only after few days.

Nothing is like Yhwh the Creator the absolute eternal,  other than Yhwh.. all will taste death before be granted eternal life by Yhwh.
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Luke 24: 46 He told them, “This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, ( this Greek source contradicts Israelite scripture where Messiah's life will be prolonged)

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Re: Did jesus has risen from dead ? claimed by Missionaries
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2015, 10:34:59 PM »
Luke 24:6

6 He is not here; he has RISEN!

hmm...

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

According to the full accounts of the New Testament (I am not declaring them to be Divine, Authentic or anything valid), Jesus was put on the cross, taken and laid in a tomb/cave for three days and rose again.  The following points are important to keep in mind:

1-  He was never placed in a coffin.

2-  He was never buried underground.

3-  He was hurt, laid in the tomb for a few days, and received medical treatment by his mother and a couple of other women.  See Luke 24:1-8, Mark 15:40-47, Mark 16:1-8, John 19:38-42, John 20:1-29.  He received medicine and massaging from Mary Magdalene and others during this time.  He then "rose up from the dead" and left the tomb (cave).

a- Notice in Luke 24:1, the women came to the tomb with medicine and found Jesus gone.  If he was already dead, they would have no reason to bring this to dead Jesus.  But Jesus was alive and was receiving medical treatment.  The following translations speak about ointments and spices brought by the women:

www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+24%3A1&version=WE
www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+24%3A1&version=VOICE
www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+24%3A1&version=TLB


Also, look at the lexicon for Luke 24:1:

www.biblehub.com/lexicon/luke/24-1.htm

NASB ©     Greek             Transliteration  Strong's   Definition     Origin
the spices    ἀρώματα   arōmata   759          a spice          of uncertain origin

They say the word means "spice" while its origin is unknown.  So the translation "spice" is only a guess.  Medicine back then was also made from certain spices and plants.  This is why some English translations used the word "ointment".  This is because Jesus wasn't dead in the tomb.  He was rather hurt.  Therefore, applying medicine to him would be the most logical thing.


b- Also, notice in John 20:15, Mary Magdalene thought Jesus was a gardener, after he healed and rose back up.

c- And in John 20:17, Jesus was still in pain, he told Mary Magdalene "touch me not!".

d- And in John 20:19-29, Jesus showed his original body to the disciples, and they checked it.  Jesus Christ never actually died. He has always been alive in the tomb receiving medical treatment.  He was never buried underground, or in a coffin. He was laid on the floor, alive.

Dr. Zakir Naik provided many more verses during his 3-hour debate.  The above points were taken from my shortened version video: www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_was_never_buried_underground.wmv.  The 3-hour version is located at:

www.answering-christianity.com/was_jesus_crucified_debate_between_dr_zakir_naik_and_pastor_rukni.wmv


4-  He then rose again, and when Mary Magdalene tried to touch him, he told her from pain: "Touch me not!".  He was in a lot of hurt.

5-  Jesus told his followers that they have small faith, and that the only Sign left for him to give them was that the Sign of Jonah and the Whale.  But Jonah never died in the belly of the Whale.  He was there alive and prayed to Allah Almighty to rescue him from the Whale.

So Jesus "had risen" doesn't mean what the polytheist trinitarian pagans claim.  For ample details and verses on everything I said, please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_53.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/psalm_91.htm


Take care,
Osama Abdallah

 

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