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my brother.. I don't to bother myself on a null thing...because the content he gave has said  the totality of what are in the links ...one adage says"if the head is good..the whole body is good..and it is vice versa" . so I know what he's trying to say..thank you

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
« on: May 27, 2014, 03:04:35 PM »
@Christianity are numerous............WHAT WAS THAT?
Joshua 8:24-26

When the Israelite army finished chasing and killing all the men of Ai in the open fields, they went back and finished off everyone inside. So the entire population of Ai, including men and women, was wiped out that day—12,000 in all. For Joshua kept holding out his spear until everyone who had lived in Ai was completely destroyed. (NLT)

 Deuteronomy 2:32-34

Then Sihon came out against us, he and all his people, unto battle at Jahaz. And Jehovah our God delivered him up before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed every inhabited city, with the women and the little ones; we left none remaining. (ASV)

 Deuteronomy 3:3-6

So the LORD our God delivered Og also, king of Bashan, with all his people into our hand, and we smote them until no survivor was left. We captured all his cities at that time; there was not a city which we did not take from them: sixty cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan. All these were cities fortified with high walls, gates and bars, besides a great many unwalled towns. We utterly destroyed them, as we did to Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women and children of every city. (NASB)
   1 Samuel 15:3,8

Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.' " … He took Agag king of the Amalekites alive, and all his people he totally destroyed with the sword.(NIV)
Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

Also let us look at Deuteronomy 17:3-5 "And he should go and worship other gods and bow down to them or to the sun or the moon or all the army of the heavens, .....and you must stone such one with stones and such one must die."

This verse was sent to me by Yusif 65; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:  2 Chronicles 15:13 "All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman."
Matthew 15:1-9
1 Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked,
2 "Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don't wash their hands before they eat!"
3 Jesus replied, "And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition?
4 For God said, 'Honor your father and mother' and 'Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.'
 Leviticus 20:27 "And as for a man or woman in whom there proves to be a mediumistic spirit or spirit of prediction, they should be put to death without fail.  They should pelt them to death with stones.  Their own blood is upon them."
Exodus 31:14
14 'Observe the Sabbath, because it is holy to you. Anyone who desecrates it must be put to death; whoever does any work on that day must be cut off from his people.

Exodus 31:15
15 For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day must be put to death.
.                           My brother , before you can quote any verse from Bible, why don't you find out the reasons why the verse was written? At least you should read some chapters/verses before you could quote any verse/chapter so that you could understand the verses you quoted.   

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
« on: May 27, 2014, 07:24:13 AM »
I thought you created this blog to enlighten ourselves what we don't know
:P There is nothing in Christianity that anyone don't know. :P
.                                   What you don't understand  about Christianity are numerous

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Christ was, indeed, a very human messenger. A messenger like Abraham, Ishmael, Jacob, Moses and Joseph. He was the guide of the Children of Israel. He was innocent of sin; a great individual who had persevered to guide society along the path of righteousness by his own example. He was not God; nor even the son of God. Nor yet one in the three personages of the Trinity. He was but a messenger; a very human messenger.

These scriptures Let it clear to everyone that He(Jesus) is the Son of God, why? Because it was said by God Himself.   
 *Luke 1:  28 The angel went to her and said, "Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you."
29 Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. 30 But the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary; you have found favor with God. 31 You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to call him Jesus. 32  He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, 33 and he will reign over Jacob's descendants forever; his kingdom will never end."
*Luke 9: 34 While he was speaking, a cloud appeared and covered them, and they were afraid as they entered the cloud. 35 A voice came from the cloud, saying, " This is my Son, whom I have chosen; listen to him.
*Matthew 3: 13 Then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to be baptized by John. 14 But John tried to deter him, saying, "I need to be baptized by you, and do you come to me?"
15 Jesus replied, "Let it be so now; it is proper for us to do this to fulfill all righteousness." Then John consented.
16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. 17 And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased..... "

So can I ask you, was heaven opened when God called Abraham, Moses and other people that you mentioned? And did they all died for the atonement of human sins? These are the differents between Jesus and them. God was the who claimed Jesus to be His Son and Heaven was opened, no doubt or arguments on this matter again because it is clear.

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Jesus is born as the descendent of Abraham and David (Luke 2:21).
Psalm 132: 11 The LORD swore an oath to David,
a sure oath he will not revoke:
"One of your own descendants
I will place on your throne.
 Jeremiah 23:5 "The days are coming," declares the LORD, "when I will raise up for David a righteous Branch, a King who will reign wisely
and do what is just and right in the land.
John 7:42 Does not Scripture say that the Messiah will come from David's descendants and from Bethlehem, the town where David lived?

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- Jesus is circumcised (Luke 2:21).
- Jesus is breast-fed (Luke 11:27).
- Jesus exercises obedience through his patience (Ebriar 5:.- Jesus experiences hunger (Mark 11:12).
- Jesus experiences thirst (John 19:28).
- Jesus sleeps (Matthew 8:24).
- Jesus is fatigued in a journey (John 4:6).
- Jesus sighs in anxiety (John 11:33).
- Jesus weeps (John 11:35).
- Jesus grieves (Matthew 26:37).
- Jesus fears the Jews (John 18:12,13)
- Jesus exerts his strength (John 2:13).
- Jesus takes food and drink (Matthew 11:29)

Yes of course, He must pass through all this, because He's God in Man. He must pass through waht Men passes through.

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- Jesus travels on back of the ass (Matthew 21:5).
Been on an ass means , humility, victorious. Or do you ever see a president on the ass? Jesus did this as a sign of humility. Jesus did this as a sign of victory, and ass is meant for the Kings, He is the King of kings. Isaiah 9:6

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- A homeless Jesus (Matthew 8:20).
- Jesus fears the Jews (John 18:12,13).
- Jesus is betrayed (John 18:2).
- Jesus is captured (John 18:12,13)
- Jesus is humiliated (Matthew 26:67)
- Jesus is beaten (John 18:22)
All these were permitted because of me and you.
Assuming He was not betrayed, how can he fulfilled His mission on earth? But "woe to the person that will show Him" He says. If He was not captured , beaten and crucified, our salvation is nothing.
Do you think, he didn't have power to command to leave Him, or to destroy them when they were doing all this to Him? No! When Peter cut a ear of the servant of high priest, Jesus still did a miracle there, and told peter that , He can avenge for  Himself by calling legions of Angels to fight for Him, but He didn't , just because for the scripture to fulfilled. Matthew 26:51-56. Isaiah 53:7



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Where does the word "Trinity" come from?
It comes from the Latin word trinitas, which means "three" or "triad." The Greek equivalent is triados.

When was it first used?
The first surviving use of the term (there may
have been earlier uses that are now lost) was
around A.D. 170 by Theophilus of Antioch, who
wrote:
In like manner also the three days which were
before the luminaries, are types of the Trinity
[Τριάδος], of God, and His Word, and His wisdom.
And the fourth is the type of man, who needs
light, that so there may be God, the Word,
wisdom, man [ To Autolycus 2:15].

What is the Trinity?
The Church expresses her trinitarian faith by
professing a belief in the oneness of God in whom
there are three Persons: Father, Son, and Holy
Spirit.
The three divine Persons are only one God
because each of them equally possesses the
fullness of the one and indivisible divine nature.
They are really distinct from each other by
reason of the relations which place them in
correspondence to each other.
The Father generates the Son; the Son is
generated by the Father; the Holy Spirit proceeds
from the Father and the Son [CCCC 48].

Is the Trinity the central mystery of the Christian Faith?
Yes. The central mystery of Christian faith and life is
the mystery of the Most Blessed Trinity.
Christians are baptized in the name of the Father
and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit [CCCC 44].

How can the Trinity be proved?
The Trinity can only be proved through the divine
revelation that Jesus brought us. It cannot be
proved by natural reason or from the Old
Testament alone. The Compendium of the
Catechism of the Catholic Church states:
God has left some traces of his trinitarian being in
creation and in the Old Testament but his inmost
being as the Holy Trinity is a mystery which is
inaccessible to reason alone or even to Israel’s
faith before the Incarnation of the Son of God and
the sending of the Holy Spirit.
This mystery was revealed by Jesus Christ and it
is the source of all the other mysteries [CCCC 45].
Although the vocabulary used to express the
doctrine of the Trinity took time to develop, we
can demonstrate the different aspects of the
doctrine from Scripture.

Scriptures
The fact that there is only one God was already
made clear in the Old Testament. For example,
the book of Isaiah proclaims:
“You are my witnesses,” says the Lord, “and my
servant whom I have chosen, that you may know
and believe me and understand that I am He.
Before me no god was formed, nor shall there be
any after me [Is. 43:10].

Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his
Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: “I am the first and I
am the last; besides me there is no god" [Is. 44:6].

The Father is God
The Father is proclaimed as God numerous times
in the New Testament. For example, St. Paul
declares: Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all
comfort [2 Co. 1:3].

There is . . . one God and Father of us all, who is
above all and through all and in all [Eph. 4:4-6].

The Son is God
This is proclaimed in a variety of places in the
New Testament, including at the beginning of the
Gospel of John:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us,
full of grace and truth; we have beheld his glory,
glory as of the only Son from the Father [Jn. 1:1, 14].

And later:
Then [Jesus] said to Thomas, “Put your finger
here, and see my hands; and put out your hand,
and place it in my side; do not be faithless, but
believing.”
Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my
God!” [Jn. 20:27-28].
 
Holy Spirit is God
In the book of Acts, the Holy Spirit is portrayed as
a divine Person who speaks and who can be lied
to: While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting,
the Holy Spirit said, “Set apart for me Barnabas
and Saul for the work to which I have called
them” [Acts 13:2].
But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled
your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep
back part of the proceeds of the land? . . . You
have not lied to men but to God”
[Acts 5:3-4].


The Son is generated by the Father and  the Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son
The fact that the Son is generated by the Father is
indicated by the names of these Persons. Sons are
generated by fathers. The Second Person of the
Trinity would not be a Son if he were not
generated by the First Person as his Father.
The fact that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the
Father and the Son is reflected in another
statement of Jesus:
But when the Counselor comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear
witness to me [John 15:26].
. God send His Son (Jesus Christ) to the world,(God in form of man) and Jesus handed the work over to the spirit(God in spirit)
This depicts the Holy Spirit proceeding from the
Father and the Son ("whom I shall send"). Here
the outward operations of the Persons of the
Trinity reflect their mutual relations with each
other. It may also be said that the Holy Spirit
proceeds from the Father through the Son.

THE TRINITY BIBLE SCRIPTURES
Matthew 28:19 - Go ye therefore, and teach all
nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father,
and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
1 Corinthians 8:6 - But to us [there is but] one
God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we
in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are]
all things, and we by him.
John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the
Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Genesis 1:26 - And God said, Let us make man in
our image, after our likeness: and let them have
dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the
fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all
the earth, and over every creeping thing that
creepeth upon the earth.
John 1:14 - And the Word was made flesh, and
dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the
glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of
grace and truth.
1 John 5:7-8 - For there are three that bear record
in heaven, the Father, the Word(Jesus), and the Holy
Ghost: and these three are one
.
Deuteronomy 6:4 - Hear, O Israel: The LORD our
God [is] one LORD:
Philippians 2:5-8 - 5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!
John 14:26 - But the Comforter, [which is] the
Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my
name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all
things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have
said unto you.
John 1:1-51 - In the beginning was the Word, and
the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Matthew 3:17 - And lo a voice from heaven,
saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well
pleased.
James 1:13 - Let no man say when he is tempted,
I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted
with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
2 Corinthians 13:14 - The grace of the Lord Jesus
Christ, and the love of God, and the communion
of the Holy Ghost
, [be] with you all. Amen. ([The
second [epistle] to the Corinthians was written
from Philippi, [a city] of Macedonia, by Titus and
Lucas.])
Acts 5:3-4 - But Peter said, Ananias, why hath
Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost,
and to keep back [part] of the price of the land?

John 15:26 - But when the Comforter is come,
whom I will send unto you from the Father,
[even] the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from
the Father, he shall testify of me:
John 10:30-36 - I and [my] Father are one.
John 10:30 - I and [my] Father are one.
John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he
gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever
believeth in him should not perish, but have
everlasting life.
John 1:3 - All things were made by him; and
without him was not any thing made that was
made.
Luke 1:35 - And the angel answered and said
unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee,
and the power of the Highest shall overshadow
thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be
born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
Matthew 3:16-17 - And Jesus, when he was
baptized, went up straightway out of the water:
and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and
he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove,
and lighting upon him: 17 And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased."
Psalms 2:7 - I will declare the decree: the LORD
hath said unto me, Thou [art] my Son; this day
have I begotten thee.
Genesis 11:7 - Go to, let us go down, and there
confound their language, that they may not
understand one another's speech.
Genesis 3:22 - And the LORD God said, Behold,
the man is become as one of us, to know good and
evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take
also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Genesis 1:1 - In the beginning God created the
heaven and the earth.
Hebrews 1:8 - But unto the Son [he saith], Thy
throne, O God, [is] for ever and ever: a sceptre of
righteousness [is] the sceptre of thy kingdom.
1 Timothy 2:5 - For [there is] one God, and one
mediator between God and men, the man Christ
Jesus;
Colossians 2:9 - For in him dwelleth all the
fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Colossians 1:27 - To whom God would make
known what [is] the riches of the glory of this
mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in
you, the hope of glory:
Colossians 1:16-17 - For by him were all things
created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth,
visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones,
or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all
things were created by him, and for him: He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
Colossians 1:15-17 - Who is the image of the
invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

Ephesians 4:4-6 - [There is] one body, and one
Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your
calling;  5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

Galatians 3:20 - Now a mediator is not [a
mediator] of one, but God is one.
John 14:28 - Ye have heard how I said unto you, I
go away, and come [again] unto you. If ye loved
me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the
Father: for my Father is greater than I.
John 14:16-17 - And I will pray the Father, and he
shall give you another Comforter, that he may
abide with you for ever;
1 Peter 1:1-2 - Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to
the strangers scattered throughout Pontus,
Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, 2 who have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to be obedient to Jesus Christ and sprinkled with his blood:
Grace and peace be yours in abundance.
Hebrews 9:14 - How much more shall the blood
of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered
himself without spot to God, purge your
conscience from dead works to serve the living
God?
Titus 3:5 - Not by works of righteousness which
we have done, but according to his mercy he
saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and
renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Galatians 4:6 - And because ye are sons, God
hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your
hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
1 Corinthians 15:28 - And when all things shall
be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also
himself be subject unto him that put all things
under him, that God may be all in all.
Acts 28:25-27 - And when they agreed not among
themselves, they departed, after that Paul had
spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by
Esaias the prophet unto our fathers, (Read
More...)
Acts 13:2 - As they ministered to the Lord, and
fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me
Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have
called them.
Acts 13:1 - Now there were in the church that was
at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as
Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and
Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been
brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul.
Acts 5:4 - Whiles it remained, was it not thine
own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine
own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in
thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto
God.
Acts 5:3 - But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan
filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to
keep back [part] of the price of the land?
Acts 3:15 - And killed the Prince of life, whom God
hath raised from the dead; whereof we are
witnesses.
Acts 2:1-47 - And when the day of Pentecost was
fully come, they were all with one accord in one
place.
John 17:1-26 - These words spake Jesus, and
lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the
hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also
may glorify thee:
John 16:12-15 - I have yet many things to say
unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
John 16:7 - Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is
expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not
away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but
if I depart, I will send him unto you.
John 14:16 - And I will pray the Father, and he
shall give you another Comforter, that he may
abide with you for ever;
John 8:17 - It is also written in your law, that the
testimony of two men is true.
Matthew 4:7 - Jesus said unto him, It is written
again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
Matthew 3:16 - And Jesus, when he was baptized,
went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the
heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the
Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting
upon him:
Daniel 7:13 - I saw in the night visions, and,
behold, [one] like the Son of man came with the
clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of
days, and they brought him near before him.Job 33:4 - The Spirit of God hath made me, and
the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.
Genesis 1:1-31 - In the beginning God created the
heaven and the earth.
1 John 5:7 - For there are three that bear record
in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy
Ghost: and these three are one.
John 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said unto
him, My Lord and my God.
John 8:58 - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I
say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
John 1:18 - No man hath seen God at any time;
the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of
the Father, he hath declared [him].

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May God be with you in Jesus name.
Correction, JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD john 3:16
  Why Is the Trinity Important?

Although Scripture does not use the word
“Trinity,” the doctrine is clearly presented and is
extremely important.
“But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send
to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who
proceeds from the Father, He will testify of
Me.” ( John 15:26)
    THE IMPORTANCE OF TRINITY
The Trinity is the doctrine that states there is one
God but three Persons—God the Father, God the
Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Scripture clearly
states that there is one God yet three separate
Persons (for example, see Matthew 28:19 and
Mark 12:29).
each Person of the Trinity
plays a role in salvation
. Studying these roles in
light of the doctrine of the Trinity gives us a
deeper understanding of God and His Word.
States that the Father and the Son will send the
Holy Spirit to testify of Jesus
. God’s only Son,
Jesus, was sent into this world “that whoever
believes in Him should not perish but have
everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into
the world to condemn the world, but that the
world through Him might be saved” ( John 3:16–
17). The Holy Spirit testifies that Jesus is the
Christ—the Messiah and Savior.
When we interpret this passage, we should
recognize that each member of the Trinity is God.
All three speak with authority because God—the
Creator of everything—is our ultimate authority
is every area, and that is the major reason why
the Holy Spirit can testify of Jesus:
But God has revealed them to us through His
Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the
deep things of God. ( 1 Corinthians 2:10)
If the Holy Spirit is not God, then we cannot
completely trust the truths to which He guides us,
such as Jesus being the Messiah.
in the old testaments people are not hearing from God again, that was why  He sent his only Son, to fill the gap. John 15:1ff " 1.I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. 4. Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me.
John 14:1. Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in me. These scriptures let us understand that Jesus is God, if we are in Him, we are also in God.
And where do you put all these bible verses? Because you're against calling unpon the name of Jesus instead of God.
John 16:23" In that day you will no longer ask me anything. Very truly I tell you, my Father will give you whatever you ask in my name. 15:16"You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit—fruit that will last—and so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you. 14:13"And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
 

God has given us this truth through His Word,
and the Trinity is important simply because the
doctrine is revealed in Scripture. Also, doctrine of
the Trinity goes hand in hand with the doctrine of
salvation (e.g., the many things that Jesus said
and did have no meaning if He is not God). Even
though the word “Trinity” is not found in
Scripture, the doctrine is clearly presented.

When God has no converse with people on earth anymore ,that's why He sent his Son as a representative(God in Son=Jesus Christ) , and when Jesus finished His mission on earth He promised us Holy Spirit to take over( God in Spirit).
 John 16 "12 I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. 13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. 14 He will glorify me (Jesus) because it is from me that he will receive what he will make known to you. 15 All that belongs to the Father(God) is mine(Jesus). [un] That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you."[/u]

So can I ask you , who is the ominiscience, who knows tomorrow if not God?

These are the scriptures you can find Father, Son and Spirit.
All authority in heaven and on earth has been
given to me. Therefore go and make disciples
of all nations, baptizing them in the name of
the Father and of the Son and of the Holy
Spirit [ Matthew 28:19].
May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and
the love of God, and the fellowship of the
Holy Spirit be with you all [ 2 Corinthians
13:14].
To God’s elect. . .who have been chosen
according to the fore knowledge of God the
Father, through the sanctifying work of the
Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and
sprinkling by his blood [1 Peter 1:1-2].

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the fact that ,the burden on the shoulder of those who alleges. it is the theist duty to prove that God does exist ,as the Trinitarians duty to prove trinity does exist ,it is their claim to begin with.

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in the Qur'an.
MUSLIM GIRL MARRING WITH NON MUSLIM
MEN PROHIBITED BY THE LAW OF ISLAM,IT IS
PUNISHABLE OFFENCE ,SHE WAS A CITIZEN OF
SUDAN,SHE KNOW THE LAW ,THEN WHY SHE
BROKEN IT ? SHE HAS A CHANCE TO LEAVE THE
COUNTRY MARRY THE MAN AS HER WISH,BUT
SHE NOT UTILIZE IT,ISLAMIC LAW IS NOT FOR
CHILD GAME ,ITS STRICT ,IT FOR SOCIETY NOT
FOR PERSON,IF THEY FORGIVE IT ,MAY BE 1000
Meriam
Yahia Ibrahim ARISE FROM THERE ........
                                                                                              So are you saying who so ever know the truth should not let the truth set him/her free? She Have known the truth , that was why He got herself out of the bondage (by marrying a christian). 
I don't understand why most muslims  will
tell you that islam is a tolerant religion that holds the view that there should be no compulsion they force people to become a muslim while at the same time threatens anyone who might leave with death.
Even if this woman is eventually freed with the
help of international pressure on the government,
this sad affair along with numerous other such
cases continues to show us the other side of  islam that is brutal, evil and intolerant.
The fact that no one, especially somebody in her
condition should be subjected to this kind of
duress from religion in this modern age is an
indication that the muslim God Allah as revealed
by Muhammad and practiced today by its
adherents does not belong to this era. It should
either reform or be relegated to the dark pages of
history.


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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
« on: May 21, 2014, 05:03:20 PM »
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If He didn't fear God , who else will He fear ? Satan?

Man, do you trinitarian infidels hear yourselves, or even understand what you vomit out of your mouths??  Do you not scream from the top of your lungs that Jesus is OUR CREATOR?  So now it's ok for him to fear GOD?  Amazing blasphemy and utter stupidity indeed.

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Even we human being was not made by word , talk less of Jesus Christ the only begotten Son of God.

Adam was created from the Word and so was Eve.  Melchizedek's creation according to the Bible is even greater than Jesus', because Melchizedek had no beginning and no end, and no father and no mother.  And the Bible says that Jesus was Miraculous because he had to be a match to Melchizedek

Also, COUNTLESS BEINGS from the World of the Unseen, or the World of Command as it is called in Islam, are created from the Word and the Spirit.  Our Souls are created from the Spirit.  Jesus is a mighty Being, but he is not the Creator of the Universe.

Again, visit my above detailed posts for ample details.  You have nothing but blasphemies.  You're gambling with your soul, my dear.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
.                                                                               #laugh# so funny,I thought you created this blog to enlighten ourselves what we don't know, I don't think  you created it  purposely for harassing and abusing people, but if so that's left for you.I can't be discouraged by that, I shall defend Christ throughout my days.                                                                Like I said , He afraid God because He want us to afraid God, Jesus live as an example, He want us to do has He did.     Assuming He doesn't fear God,and say God is His father He(God) can never do anything for Him, if He offend Him(God).   He was telling us that we shouldn't fear God also. Or a child didn't  afraid of hid father?               Philipians 2:5 " In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus".     John 13:15"  I have set you an example that you should do as I have done for you".                                                 I John 2:6 "Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did." So Jesus live His life as examples for we christians to follow.                         
                                                                                                 Yes! Jesus was a match to Melchizedek, but there differences.
 *Melchizedek and Jesus were both God's priest,   but Jesus is the Everlasting priest, Hebrew 7:  16 one who has become a priest not on the basis of a regulation as to his ancestry but on the basis of the power of an indestructible life. 17 For it is declared: "You are a priest forever, (I.e Jesus) in the order of Melchizedek." Heb 6v20.             *Melchizedek is like the Son of God ( Heb 7:3 Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, resembling the Son of God   he remains a priest forever. But JESUS is the Son of God.               * Jesus died for the atonement of our sins, while Melchizedek did not.                                                        *Melchizedek is a king of righteousness, peace and High priest, Heb 7:3.       While JESUS was qualified by Isaiah "  For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders.   And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace Isaiah 9:6. And so on.


Remember God would have asked Jesus to come to the world without any family like Melchizedek, but no one will believe Him when He starts preach  about salvation , and He could haven't been an example for us, we will after all He is a spirit that's why we can't live the way He lives.  That was why He chose to come in for of Man.        Thanks bro, take care. Jesus Love you

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
« on: May 21, 2014, 08:17:44 AM »
Well said brother, no matter what you call me , I really appreciate it. But I will beg you not be upset.
 

JESUS HAD THE SPIRIT OF FEARING GOD IN HIM -
JESUs SAID hE DOESNT KNOW WHEN THE HOUR WILL COME
If He didn't fear God , who else will He fear ? Satan?
I said the other time that" He want us to use his lifestyle as Example" if he didn't fear God, how did He expect us to fear God also?
He said he didn't know the time, because if he had told us the time, some people today will be doing another thing, they won't worship nor fear God again, until the day is near, people will say " let me enjoy myself and I will repent later when the day is about to come.


JESUS SAID "WHY DO YOU CALL ME GOOD? NO ONE IS GOOD EXCEPT GOD ALMIGHTY ALONE"
Jesus has brought Himself down to our level ( that was why He became flesh) , that's why He said that. Can I ask you this question? Did you ever read that Jesus committed  any crime, did  bad thing?
 
 JESUS HAD NO WILL
Meaning of WILL:-  A desire, purpose, or determination. *Jesus DESIRED to come to the world . Rev. 5
*He came PURPOSEFULLY to die for our sins, for our salvation, and to give us eternal life.
* He DETERMINED to die for our sins, if He didn't , He wouldn't Have allow them to captured Him. Matt 26:53  Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels?    He knew what He came to this world for, and didn't use His power change His plan. So how can you said He has no will?


 Jesus was Miraculous because he had to match
Melchizedek, who was the Jews highest Priest,
who had no father and no mother, and no
beginning and no end.

It begins with a quick summary of the story in
Genesis 14: "This Melchizedek was king of Salem
and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham
returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed
him, and Abraham gave him a tenth of
everything" ( Heb. 7:1-2).
 the unusual name is explained. The Hebrew
word melek means king, and tsedek means
righteousness, so his name is explained as
meaning "king of righteousness." And since
shalom means peace, he was also the "king of
peace" (v. 2). These titles are significant because
Melchizedek prefigures Jesus Christ.
Then we are told that Melchizedek was "without
father or mother, without genealogy, without
beginning of days or end of life, like the Son of
God he remains a priest forever" (v. 3).

Melchizedek’s name was translated “king of
righteousness” (Hebrew 7:2).
Prophet Isaiah said about Christ, “Behold, a King
will reign in righteousness…” (Isaiah 32:1).
Christ is the King of righteousness (Romans 3:24;
Hebrew 7:26).Melchizedek was called the
(Genesis 14:18), king of Salem meaning “king of
peace.” Christ is the king of peace, “For unto us a
Child is born, unto us a Son is given… and His
name will be Prince of peace. Of the increase of
His government and peace there will be no end
(Isaiah 9:6, 7). Peace started by His birth, that is
sung by the angels (Luke 2:14). He is also the
giver of peace, “Peace I leave with you My peace I
give to you; not as the world gives do I give to
you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it
be afraid” (John 14:27; cf. John 16:33).
All the kings came from Judah’s tribe and the
priests from Levi’s. However, Melchizedek was
both a king and a priest, “For Melchizedek, king
of Salem, priest of the Most High God.” (Hebrew 7:1). Christ is the only One who came as King and Priest, “He shall bear the glory,and He shall sit and rule on His throne, so He shall be a Priest on His throne” (Zachariah 6:13). This is why the wisemen offered Him gold and frankincense. Concerning His priesthood, David the Prophet said, “The Lord has sworn and will not relent, You are a Priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek” (Psalms 110:6). St. Paul indicates, “Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood… what further need was there that another priest should rise according to
the order of Melchizedek, and not be called
according to the order of Aaron?” (Hebrew 7:11).
“By so much more, Jesus has become a surety of a
better covenant” (Hebrew 7:21, 22). Melchizedek was called to be “made like the Son of God” (Hebrew 7:3). Christ is the only begotten Son of God: “We have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God” (Hebrew 4:14). Melchizedek was “without father, without mother, without genealogy” (Hebrew 7:3). Christ was without father, concerning His priesthood, because He came from Judah’s tribe and not from Levi’s “For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood” (Hebrew 7:14). On the
other hand, Christ, as a son of Man, was without
father; and as a Son of God is without mother
(because the Virgin Mary did not give birth to His
divinity).
Melchizedek was called to be “having neither
beginning of days nor an end of life” (Hebrew 7:3)
. Christ has no beginning of days or end of life
because He is the Alpha and the Omega, the
beginning and the end, eternal and everlasting
(Revelation 1:8). “He ever lives to make
intercession for them” (Hebrew 7:25).
About Melchizedek’s priesthood, St. Paul said, he
“remains a priest continually” (Hebrew 7:3).
Christ’s priesthood never ends but remains
forever, “But He, because He continues forever,
had an unchangeable priesthood” (Hebrew 1:24).
Melchizedek offered bread and wine for Abraham
as a sign of love. It was the only offering in the
Old Testament, which was not bloody, but from
bread and wine (Gen 14:18). Christ offered to us
His body and blood as bread and wine as the
utmost love, which He gave for us upon the cross
for our salvation (Matthew 26:26; Mark 14:22;
Luke 22:19; John 6:51-54; 1 Corinthians 11:24).

JESUS WAS MADE FROM THE WORD, AND THIS WORD BECAME FLESH.
 
Even we human being was not made by word , talk less of Jesus Christ the only begotten Son of God.  Although all the creation were made of word by God, but God had to stress Himself and mould  human. What you don't know is that before anything were created , Jesus was there with God.
So He came in form of man
I. To show us how He want us to live our lives, He received training, be beaten and so on, despite all his Glory he became flesh to show us the way.
ii. He can in form of flesh for us to believe in Him, imagine He was a spirit, no one can ever believe in Him. Despite all this (by coming in form of man) yet,you people didn't  believe in Him.
John uses the Greek word logos to describe Jesus
"in the beginning," or before creation and time
began. Logos means word, but specifically it
means the spoken word or a statement. Jesus is
God's spoken word, according to John.
John then explains that the Word (Jesus) was
"with" God and "was" God. This statement yields
two important conclusions regarding Jesus and
the Trinity: Jesus is God and existed from the
beginning as God, yet Jesus' existence is somehow
distinct from God the Father. Jesus was "with"
God and "was" God at the same time. This is the
mystery of the Trinity: all three Persons in the
Godhead are One God and yet all are distinct
from one another.
Moving to verse 3, John says that it was the Word
(Him) that created all things. From this statement,
we begin to see why Jesus is called the "Word" by
John. Consider these facts we learn from John's
Gospel and elsewhere in Scripture:
First, we know from scripture that God the Father
is Spirit (John 4:24), meaning He doesn't exist in
physical form. So, there is no physical substance
to God the Father. The Creation cannot
experience the Father as He truly is, since we are
bound to a physical dimension yet He is not
physical.
Secondly, we know that God's Spirit is likewise
invisible (John 3:6-8). He can only be known by
observing His work in the Creation.
On the other hand, Jesus is the member of the
Godhead responsible for all physical matter. As
John said, all things were made by and through
Jesus. Paul says the same thing in Col 1:15-17.
More over, Paul teaches in Colossians that Jesus is
the "image of the invisible God." Therefore, He is
the only Person in the Godhead Who has entered
into and become a part of the physical creation.
Jesus can be seen in a physical sense, because He
is the One Who entered into the Creation and
become a part of it (i.e., became incarnate).
Therefore, Jesus is the One within the Trinity Who
is associated with Creation, both as its source and
as an ambassador of the Godhead to that
creation.
Next, consider how the Creation itself was
established in Genesis 1. Genesis 1 teaches that
the world was created by the spoken word of God
(note the repeating phrase in Genesis 1, "Then
God said..."). So when God the Father determined
to created the universe and everything in it, He
"spoke" it into existence. But as John said in verse
3, Jesus was the One who made all things,
therefore we can say that Jesus was God's logos,
or spoken Word.
 

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Are you going to look in the mirror or should I force you to look into it ?
.                                                                                Brother does what you replied related to the post?  anyway I didn't get your point, can you please expanciate on it.

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Hello brother , may God bless you. May the spirit of God translate HIS word to you clearly in Jesus name, Amen!
This scriptures is very very clear, sound and straight, I don't know why you people are twisting it and wanted  to turn your own brain to another thing. Anyway All is Well

John 1

1 In the beginning was the Word (Jesus) , and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He (Jesus) was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him(Jesus)  all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light(Jesus)  shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

Here let us understand that , Jesus was with God before anything on earth were created, and the word(Jesus) was God Himself, truly all things were made through word except human,(which means , all things were made trough Jesus the word).  Jesus was with God before the creation of anything on earth.

 6 There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe. 8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.
9 The true light that gives light to everyone (I.e Jesus)was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God...

God sent fort John to testify concerning Jesus Christ

v14 The Word (Jesus)  became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
 
If He didn't became like us to dwell with us like flesh, how can we belief in Him? Imagine He was a spirit, people will even be afraid of Him.
Just because He wanted to save the world ,He came down in Form of man, yet people like you didn't believe in Him. Yoruba adage says" who so ever want to catch monkey will act like a monkey" which means if Jesus want to show us the way to heaven he must be like us as man.

v15 John testified concerning him. He cried out, saying, "This is the one I spoke about when I said, 'He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.'"
John let us know that He(Jesus) was before him, does that mean Jesus has come to earth. And went back before? NO! He simply means , before he was created, Jesus was in Heaven already.

v18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.
 Who so ever reading the bible and does not have the Holy Spirit can never understand it. But brother I will like you to ask for the  Holy spirit to translate the word of God to you in the right way, flesh cannot understand it because, this word is spirit and life. # shalom 

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
« on: May 20, 2014, 03:39:17 PM »
Hello my people, peace be unto you .                             
Sometimes If I see some of you people posts , I will just be laughing and won't want to stop.
This scriptures is very very clear and straight, I don't know why you people are twisting it and want to turn your brain to another thing. All is Well

John 1

1 In the beginning was the Word (Jesus) , and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He (Jesus) was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him(Jesus)  all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light(Jesus)  shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

Here let us understand that , Jesus was with God before anything on earth were created, and the word(Jesus) was God Himself, truly all things were made through word except human,(which means , all things were made trough Jesus the word).  Jesus was with God before the creation of anything on earth.

 6 There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe. 8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.
9 The true light that gives light to everyone (I.e Jesus)was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God...

God sent fort John to testify concerning Jesus Christ

v14 The Word (Jesus)  became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
 
If He didn't became like us to dwell with us like flesh, how can we belief in Him? Imagine He was a spirit, people will even be afraid of Him.
Just because He wanted to save the world ,He came down in Form of man, yet people like you didn't believe in Him. Yoruba adage says" who so ever want to catch monkey will act like a monkey" which means if Jesus want to show us the way to heaven he must be like us as man.

v15 John testified concerning him. He cried out, saying, "This is the one I spoke about when I said, 'He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.'"
John let us know that He(Jesus) was before him, does that mean Jesus has come to earth. And went back before? NO! He simply means , before he was created, Jesus was in Heaven already.

v18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.
 But brothers I will like you to ask for Holy spirit to translate the word of God to you in the right way, flesh cannot understand it because, this word is spirit and life. # shalom 

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As-Salamu Alaikum Everyone,


:D

Brother Egyptian, According to you, Is there any was to convince a Christian that Trinity is False? :P
.  A real christian can never be confused on that

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Mother's Day was not a happy day for Meriam
Yahia Ibrahim. While her second child is almost
due, the 27-year-old Sudanese doctor now faces
execution for marrying a Christian.
Ibrahim has been imprisoned, along with her 20-
month-old son, in Khartoum since February. She
is married to a South Sudanese Christian with U.S.
citizenship—Daniel Wani—but because her father
was a Muslim, the state does not recognize her
marriage and charged her with adultery and
apostasy in March. Morning Star News (MSN) has
chronicled her case.
On Sunday [May 11], Ibrahim drew a fresh round
of activist attention after a court convicted her
and sentenced her to death for apostasy and 100
lashes for adultery. MSN has the details. Middle
East Concern reports that "there is no known
precedent for such a verdict and sentence being
issued by a Sudanese court against a follower of
Jesus in recent times."
Ibrahim's case represents the increasing
Islamization of Sudan ever since the 2011
secession of predominantly Christian South
Sudan. President Omar Hassan al-Bashir has
made it clear that Sudan's political stance going
forward is a "100 per cent Islamic constitution,
without communism or secularism or Western
[influences]."
"Mrs Ibrahim's sentence is the latest and most
significant in a series of repressive acts by the
Sudanese government against religious
minorities," said Christian Solidarity Worldwide
(CSW). "If the sentence is carried out Mrs Ibrahim
will become the first person to be executed for
apostasy under the 1991 penal code, prompting
concerns that the charge may increasingly be
used against anyone who converts from Islam."
CSW reports:
The sentence comes months after the chairman of
the Islamic Centre for Preaching and Comparative
Studies, Ammar Saleh, accused the government of
negligence in addressing apostasy and urged it to
"stand against Christianisation and come up with
a long term solution to the problem." Although
President al Bashir has repeatedly stated that
Sudan's new constitution would be "100%
Islamic" and wholly based on Shari'a law, the new
constitution has yet to be finalised, leaving the
interim constitution in place, which references
Shari'a as a source of law and not as the basis of
the constitution. Since the charges against Mrs
Ibrahim are based on Shari'a law, the interim
constitution still provides for her right to freedom
of religion or belief.
The children of a Muslim father are automatically
considered to be Muslims in Sudan, even though
Ibrahim said she never practiced Islam. Her
Muslim father left the family when she was six
years old, and she was raised by her Christian
mother.
Ibrahim was convicted by the El Haj Yousif Public
Order Court of both crimes, and could be given
100 lashes for adultery and then put to death for
apostasy soon after her baby is born later this
month, according to human rights workers. The
court implied that her sentence could be reduced
or dismissed if she converts to Islam this week.
"Meriam is very weak and tired as the delivery
day gets closer," a Justice Center Sudan worker
told MSN. "The Sudanese authority keeps pushing
Meriam to announce Islamic faith."
"She is psychologically tired," Wani told MSN.
"My wife was never a Muslim. As an American
citizen, I ask the people and government of the
USA to help me."
The U.S. Embassy in Sudan asked him to provide
a DNA test to prove he is the father of his son,
Wani told MSN. Wani would have to meet U.S.
requirements for his children to receive U.S.
citizenship.
CT regularly reports on Sudan—No. 11 on the
World Watch List for severe Christian
persecution—including the Christian crackdown
moving the nation closer to becoming "100
percent" Muslim, as well as the government's
refusal to issue licenses to new churches.
CT has also reported on other Christians facing
death penalties, including Asia Bibi sentenced for
blasphemy in Pakistan, four missionaries who
faced evangelism charges in Benghazi, and
Christian converts who feared execution orders in
Morocco.
http://www.everydaydevotional.com/2014/05/
americans-wife-faces-sudan-death.html

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