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The names Ahmed and Mohammed in Jewish document that predates Prophet Mohammed ?
Idris:
As-Salam aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh,
two days ago, while browsing the contents of Hebrew books in Google I came across an interesting document which is called Zohar (perhaps some of you did heard about it before since it is commonly known in Jewish literature). The author of the original work was a 2nd-century Rabbi named Shimon bar Yohai. Generaly speaking, this work include a commentary on the mystical aspects of the Torah and scriptural interpretations as well.
I simply typed in Hebrew נביא אחמד בישעיהו (i.e. prophet Ahmed in Isaiah) and it suddenly showed up to me a 1559 edition of Zohar by Vicenzo Conti.
עלך ותאנא מאי דכתיב שוש אשיש בה' בעהיק יומין אחמד דהא הוא חדוותא ישעיה ס נדכלא 'האבא בשעחא דאתנלי תאי אורחא דדיקנ'ד עתיק יומין כלחו מארי
The text however, is writen in difficult and obscure way (even scholars has observed). There is an abvious error in בעהיק where ת was wrongly mistook as ה
You can put this Hebrew text into Google translator if you wish.
Link: https://books.google.pl/books?id=O3zTOfAWdagC&pg=PT635&dq=%D7%91%D7%94%27%D7%91%D7%A2%D7%94%D7%99%D7%A7+%D7%99%D7%95%D7%9E%D7%99%D7%9F+%D7%90%D7%97%D7%9E%D7%93+%D7%93%D7%94%D7%90+%D7%94%D7%95%D7%90+%D7%97%D7%93%D7%95%D7%95%D7%AA%D7%90+Sim%C3%A9on+bar+Yohay&hl=pl&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=%D7%A2%D7%9C%D7%9A%20%D7%95%D7%AA%D7%90%D7%A0%D7%90%20%D7%9E%D7%90%D7%99%20%D7%93%D7%9B%D7%AA%D7%99%D7%91%20%D7%A9%D7%95%D7%A9%20%D7%90%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%A9%20%D7%91%D7%94%27%D7%91%D7%A2%D7%94%D7%99%D7%A7%20%D7%99%D7%95%D7%9E%D7%99%D7%9F%20%D7%90%D7%97%D7%9E%D7%93%20%D7%93%D7%94%D7%90%20%D7%94%D7%95%D7%90%20%D7%97%D7%93%D7%95%D7%95%D7%AA%D7%90%20%D7%99%D7%A9%D7%A2%D7%99%D7%94%20%D7%A1%20%D7%A0%20%D7%93%D7%9B%D7%9C%D7%90%20%27%D7%94%D7%90%D7%91%D7%90%20%D7%91%D7%A9%D7%A2%D7%97%D7%90%20%D7%93%D7%90%D7%AA%D7%A0%D7%9C%D7%99%20%D7%AA%D7%90%D7%99%20%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%97%D7%90%20%D7%93%D7%93%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%A0%27%D7%93%D7%A2%D7%AA%D7%99%D7%A7%20%D7%99%D7%95%D7%9E%D7%99%D7%9F%20%D7%9B%D7%9C%D7%97%D7%95%20%D7%9E%D7%90%D7%A8%D7%99&f=false
Unfortunately, I ’am not able to understand all of the Hebrew text, since as I've said it is written in a difficult way, but I can recognize the words: כתיב (it is written), בה' בעהיק יומין (through/by him in ancient of days), אחמד (ahmad), ישעיה (Isaiah), and כלחו (sent ?). Now, it is interesting to note that the two expressions תיק יומין in the entire Old Testament appears only in Daniel 7:9 and 7:13 in connection with the Son of Man (literally = ben Adam = Son of Adam) who was to be presented before the Throne of God. It can be only prophet Mohammed (pbuh) and no one else! So, the fact of using such specific words standing together is a curious indication that could reveal the shocking truth behind this Zohar book which according to some scholars is the same book that was disappeared 1,800 years ago, and after long time was discovered in Spanish in 13th cent.
Sounds exciting isn't ? For this reason I have asked a Rabbi Ben Abrahamson to help us explain what the text says, I'am waiting for his answer.
Also, if you type מחמד (Mohammed) it will suprisingly show one result, and it is in ספר דברים (Deuteronomy) ! Subhanallah!
The natural reaction of a typical Jew or Christian who hates any relationship with Islam and Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) in their scripture will be that: he will try to disprove the authenticity of any document which can testify to the prophethood of Mohammed and reliability of his advent from the Bible in general. Perhaps that’s why aroused so much controversy around this document between Jewish and Christian scholars. Those who dislike Islam, when read this Zohar book, begin to understand that these words אחמד and מחמד makes a danger allusion to the Arabic names Ahmed and Mohammed, and they are afraid that in the near future some Muslim will find it. It is quite possible.
I will write more about this topic insha'Allah when I'll get new info.
Take care, and salam
Ahmed (Poland, Warsaw)
QuranSearchCom:
Wa Alaikum As'salam Wa Rahmatu Allah Wa Barakatuh dear brother Idris,
May Allah Almighty greatly bless you for your research, akhi. Masha'Allah, as always, your work is of great quality! Keep up the great work, akhi. I am sorry for forgetting to backup the images that you requested earlier. I completely forgot about them. I will do that tomorrow, insha'Allah.
I will also link your findings in this thread to www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm and elsewhere, insha'Allah.
Take care akhi,
Osama Abdallah
iknowi:
I've been looking into Ahmadiyya Islam, do you think the reference to Ahmed could suggest the prophethood of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian? (That's there prophet).
I've been reading Mirza Ghulam's book and i think he is sincere, his book is actually quite amazing (the philosophy of the teachings of Islam), although even if he is sincere i'm not sure if he is really a prophet, Ahmadiyyas interpret Khatamun Nabiyaan differently.
Anyhow, i still recommend everyone, and i mean EVERYONE read that book. Dont get it confused with another one of similar title. It's really that good.
iknowi:
For those who dont know there is a small sect where they believe Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is the prophesized Imam Mahdi, and he was apparently assigned actual prophethood (thats the only way to make an impact).
Idris:
Salam aleikum,
No, its not about Mirza Ghulam, the Jews knew only one Ahmed from "ancient days" and in their hope they called him Messiah by which they undestood the Last Prophet of God who will establish the kingdom of God on earth (Islam). The Hebrew term מָשִׁיחַ (moshiach) means “anointed." In Biblical Hebrew, this expression precisely was bestowed on a person who had attained a position of nobility, greatness, someone who acquired a high status of authority. In Rabbinic literature the title Moshiach is reserved for the chosen leader who will be a savior to Israel in the Last Times. That long awaited Messiah in Jewish eyes is not Jesus (pbuh) as some could argue, since this Messiah was to be a powerful Messenger, a warrior who will take victory over all his enemies.
Take care,
Ahmed
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