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A problem with Br. Osama
« on: January 22, 2013, 02:03:03 AM »
Over here you've addressed your pride in being American, which I have no problem with because of course, your home land raised you!
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm


However, I noticed you put the statue of liberty in there. It's symbolism, the crown of thorns, which represent the sun (Christians still worship the sun and believe Jesus wore a crown of thorns).

Second thing, I noticed you misunderstood a prophecy. In Bukhari Vol.4, book 55, no. 553, prophet Muhammad (PBUH) says "You should know that he IS [present tense] one-eyed, and Allah is not one-eyed"
See, prophet Muhammad (PBUH) knew back then, about the secret cult. Sun worshiping, or Horus worship, had existed back then, and still does today. It is not new. The "one-eyed" is a symbolic reference to the eye of Horus. It is not only present in the dollar bill, it has also sneaked in Christianity. Yes, Christianity is the deceiver, or the "Dajjal".


Lastly, you should make a page explaining the great seal:


What you see is the eye of Horus with the light of the Sun on it, an Egyptian pyramid with 13 layers (one sun and 12 zodiac signs, personification of the Sun in ancient Egypt, Horus and his 12 disciples), and roman numerals at the bottom that read 1776, the year the Illuminati was founded.
At the top it reads Annuit cœptis which means undertaking approved, referring to the establishment of Christianity, to unite the masses under a new world order.

The other side of the seal looks like so:

Notice there are 13 stars appearing to be on a Sun, enclosed with clouds, with a latin phrase 'e pluribus unum' (one out of many), in this case, Jesus, who was one out many other "sons of God" (Mithras, Horus, Krishna, etc)..
edit: Oh I just noticed, there are also 13 leaves and 13 peas, as well as thirteen of those spiky arrows. Damn, so sneaky. Also, there's 33 wings, a reference to the 33rd degree Masons.

If you notice, Malachi 4:1 says - "the sun of righteousness will rise with healing in its wings. And you will go out and leap like calves released from the stall." The calf itself is important symbolism I'll talk about later. The Sun of righteousness with wings is of course a reference to the VERY old 'Winged sun disk' or 'Winged sun of Thebes', which predates Christianity by more than a thousand years..

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Re: A problem with Br. Osama
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2013, 01:20:19 PM »
Over here you've addressed your pride in being American, which I have no problem with because of course, your home land raised you!
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm


However, I noticed you put the statue of liberty in there. It's symbolism, the crown of thorns, which represent the sun (Christians still worship the sun and believe Jesus wore a crown of thorns).

Second thing, I noticed you misunderstood a prophecy. In Bukhari Vol.4, book 55, no. 553, prophet Muhammad (PBUH) says "You should know that he IS [present tense] one-eyed, and Allah is not one-eyed"
See, prophet Muhammad (PBUH) knew back then, about the secret cult. Sun worshiping, or Horus worship, had existed back then, and still does today. It is not new. The "one-eyed" is a symbolic reference to the eye of Horus. It is not only present in the dollar bill, it has also sneaked in Christianity. Yes, Christianity is the deceiver, or the "Dajjal".


Lastly, you should make a page explaining the great seal:


What you see is the eye of Horus with the light of the Sun on it, an Egyptian pyramid with 13 layers (one sun and 12 zodiac signs, personification of the Sun in ancient Egypt, Horus and his 12 disciples), and roman numerals at the bottom that read 1776, the year the Illuminati was founded.
At the top it reads Annuit cœptis which means undertaking approved, referring to the establishment of Christianity, to unite the masses under a new world order.

The other side of the seal looks like so:

Notice there are 13 stars appearing to be on a Sun, enclosed with clouds, with a latin phrase 'e pluribus unum' (one out of many), in this case, Jesus, who was one out many other "sons of God" (Mithras, Horus, Krishna, etc)..
edit: Oh I just noticed, there are also 13 leaves and 13 peas, as well as thirteen of those spiky arrows. Damn, so sneaky. Also, there's 33 wings, a reference to the 33rd degree Masons.

If you notice, Malachi 4:1 says - "the sun of righteousness will rise with healing in its wings. And you will go out and leap like calves released from the stall." The calf itself is important symbolism I'll talk about later. The Sun of righteousness with wings is of course a reference to the VERY old 'Winged sun disk' or 'Winged sun of Thebes', which predates Christianity by more than a thousand years..



Jazaka Allah khayr akhi.  I will insha'Allah further research the valuable points that you mentioned.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: A problem with Br. Osama
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2013, 09:27:09 PM »
The statue of liberty, is Nimrod's wife and his mother.
Also, the freemasons/illuminati were not founded in the 18th Century.
They go way back, Nimrod was one of the earliest founders.

Also, the Dajjal is a literal person, but freemasonry is his system, we are likely to see him our life time, (May Allah protect us all).
Christians don't worship the sun.

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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2013, 11:02:51 PM »
The statue of liberty, is Nimrod's wife and his mother.
Also, the freemasons/illuminati were not founded in the 18th Century.
They go way back, Nimrod was one of the earliest founders.

Also, the Dajjal is a literal person, but freemasonry is his system, we are likely to see him our life time, (May Allah protect us all).
Christians don't worship the sun.

Scripture says many will be misled by the one-eyed, and only the believers can read the 'kufr' on his forehead. What is the importance of the forehead? In the Qur'an, it is well known that lying is generated from the forehead. Thus, he will use mental deception and mislead the youth. I have interpreted this in my own way. The "one-eyed" is a reference to Horus, and the believers will see through Christian sun worship. Dajjal = Christianity.

Think about it! Christians worship on SUNday when the Sun is rising from the East, they pray towards the EAST. Jesus is a great ripoff of the ancient Egyptian sun God Horus: 12 disciples, "only begotten son", death for three days then resurrection, birth under the star Sirius, followed by three kings, it goes on and on but no one will notice and no one will care. This is the power of Dajjal.

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Re: A problem with Br. Osama
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2013, 11:20:25 PM »
The statue of liberty, is Nimrod's wife and his mother.
Also, the freemasons/illuminati were not founded in the 18th Century.
They go way back, Nimrod was one of the earliest founders.

Also, the Dajjal is a literal person, but freemasonry is his system, we are likely to see him our life time, (May Allah protect us all).
Christians don't worship the sun.

Scripture says many will be misled by the one-eyed, and only the believers can read the 'kufr' on his forehead. What is the importance of the forehead? In the Qur'an, it is well known that lying is generated from the forehead. Thus, he will use mental deception and mislead the youth. I have interpreted this in my own way. The "one-eyed" is a reference to Horus, and the believers will see through Christian sun worship. Dajjal = Christianity.

Think about it! Christians worship on SUNday when the Sun is rising from the East, they pray towards the EAST. Jesus is a great ripoff of the ancient Egyptian sun God Horus: 12 disciples, "only begotten son", death for three days then resurrection, birth under the star Sirius, followed by three kings, it goes on and on but no one will notice and no one will care. This is the power of Dajjal.
Bro, the Dajjal will be a literal person, he will emerge in Isfahan (Iran) with 70,000 jews behind him, this will happen at a time where the muslims will me in Constantinople and after victory, we will have news that the dajjal has arrived, and 1 third of the army will run away of fear, who Allah will not forgive.

The dajjals system is freemasonry, but the Dajjal (the antichrist) who'm all prophets warned about will be a literal person who Allah has sent to the jews after how they rejected Isa Aleyhi salam, Dajjal is not Christianity, even though Christianity is paganism, the antichrist is someone who the christians wait for too, but they interpret it as Obama and other foolishness along with it, Isa Aleyhi salam will descend in Syria and will chase after him and kill him at the gate of Ludd, don't interpret things out of the blue bro, aren't you a convert? The dajjal is the greatest fitnah mankind will have. He will come when the sea of galilee dries up which is soon, when Israel is the ruling state of the world etc, we don't have a khilafa atm and Imam Mahdi is going to be our next (maybe) Allah knows best.

Btw, the reason why Christianity is the way it is today, is because Constantine, in the year 325 AD in order to stop conflict with Christians who were always at war with them, he held a meeting known as the Nicea Council, and they then discussed wether Jesus was divine etc and they chose what gospels should be chosen etc, if you want the history of freemasonry I am willing to explain it all, at the council that's when paganism concepts were introduced, such as the resurrection bogus etc. The trinity itself was created as an establishment then too, but it's not just there that it began, it exists in the religion of Nimrod, Hinduism etc, basically constantine introduced paganism into the true teachings of Isa Aleyhisalam, you should learn about Paul too and how he was a freemason who used a dual identity who hijacked the faith, aka Christianity today.

Watch this video- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fas6DQ9ZZ1o

As for Christianity, they worship Isa Aleyhi salam because it is there intention too, Allah will question Isa Aleyhi salam on the day of judgement in front of them and ask him if he asked them to worship him, Isa Aleyhisalam will return soon, which is likely in the next 30 years or less, and there will be more Judaism and Christianity, and the world will become muslim. Yajuj and Majuj will fight against him etc and Im guessing you already know what will happen with the worms etc. When Dajjal comes there will also be 7 entrances in Medina where the angels will protect him from entering, there are 7 today!, also he will camp outside, and he will say that is the Palace of Ahmad (Prophet Muhammad sallalu aleyhi wasalaam), and you know what's interesting? At the time this hadith was recorded, the Prophet's (salallahu aleyhi wasalaams)  mosque was only a house.

Please read the following, because even the strong muslims will approach the Dajjal when he comes thinking they will not fall for him, but instead they will become one of his followers!

http://www.discoveringislam.org/end_of_time.htm

There are many sections, including the Imam Mahdi section and the Dajjal, and what signs will come before it.


This site is excellent, the main page, but the only thing it lacks is the end times, as in the Dajjal and Imam Mahdi, The Dajjal is not completely metaphorical in the way Osama Abdallah thinks it is (I think he thinks that).

And kindly STOP interpreting ahadith in your own way, if you have any questions, ASK Me, i study the end times, history of religions (I am a student of comparative religion) literally all the time (In my free time).

And btw, HORUS does not exist, so stop making foolish interpretations in saying that 'Horus' will misguide people and make them one of his followers, The dajjal is the false-messiah the Jews await for, I repeat, he dajjal is the false-messiah the Jews await for.

Peace be upon you.
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Re: A problem with Br. Osama
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2013, 12:27:19 AM »
The statue of liberty, is Nimrod's wife and his mother.
Also, the freemasons/illuminati were not founded in the 18th Century.
They go way back, Nimrod was one of the earliest founders.

Also, the Dajjal is a literal person, but freemasonry is his system, we are likely to see him our life time, (May Allah protect us all).
Christians don't worship the sun.

Scripture says many will be misled by the one-eyed, and only the believers can read the 'kufr' on his forehead. What is the importance of the forehead? In the Qur'an, it is well known that lying is generated from the forehead. Thus, he will use mental deception and mislead the youth. I have interpreted this in my own way. The "one-eyed" is a reference to Horus, and the believers will see through Christian sun worship. Dajjal = Christianity.

Think about it! Christians worship on SUNday when the Sun is rising from the East, they pray towards the EAST. Jesus is a great ripoff of the ancient Egyptian sun God Horus: 12 disciples, "only begotten son", death for three days then resurrection, birth under the star Sirius, followed by three kings, it goes on and on but no one will notice and no one will care. This is the power of Dajjal.
Bro, the Dajjal will be a literal person, he will emerge in Isfahan (Iran) with 70,000 jews behind him, this will happen at a time where the muslims will me in Constantinople and after victory, we will have news that the dajjal has arrived, and 1 third of the army will run away of fear, who Allah will not forgive.

The dajjals system is freemasonry, but the Dajjal (the antichrist) who'm all prophets warned about will be a literal person who Allah has sent to the jews after how they rejected Isa Aleyhi salam, Dajjal is not Christianity, even though Christianity is paganism, the antichrist is someone who the christians wait for too, but they interpret it as Obama and other foolishness along with it, Isa Aleyhi salam will descend in Syria and will chase after him and kill him at the gate of Ludd, don't interpret things out of the blue bro, aren't you a convert? The dajjal is the greatest fitnah mankind will have. He will come when the sea of galilee dries up which is soon, when Israel is the ruling state of the world etc, we don't have a khilafa atm and Imam Mahdi is going to be our next (maybe) Allah knows best.

Btw, the reason why Christianity is the way it is today, is because Constantine, in the year 325 AD in order to stop conflict with Christians who were always at war with them, he held a meeting known as the Nicea Council, and they then discussed wether Jesus was divine etc and they chose what gospels should be chosen etc, if you want the history of freemasonry I am willing to explain it all, at the council that's when paganism concepts were introduced, such as the resurrection bogus etc. The trinity itself was created as an establishment then too, but it's not just there that it began, it exists in the religion of Nimrod, Hinduism etc, basically constantine introduced paganism into the true teachings of Isa Aleyhisalam, you should learn about Paul too and how he was a freemason who used a dual identity who hijacked the faith, aka Christianity today.

Watch this video- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fas6DQ9ZZ1o

As for Christianity, they worship Isa Aleyhi salam because it is there intention too, Allah will question Isa Aleyhi salam on the day of judgement in front of them and ask him if he asked them to worship him, Isa Aleyhisalam will return soon, which is likely in the next 30 years or less, and there will be more Judaism and Christianity, and the world will become muslim. Yajuj and Majuj will fight against him etc and Im guessing you already know what will happen with the worms etc. When Dajjal comes there will also be 7 entrances in Medina where the angels will protect him from entering, there are 7 today!, also he will camp outside, and he will say that is the Palace of Ahmad (Prophet Muhammad sallalu aleyhi wasalaam), and you know what's interesting? At the time this hadith was recorded, the Prophet's (salallahu aleyhi wasalaams)  mosque was only a house.

Please read the following, because even the strong muslims will approach the Dajjal when he comes thinking they will not fall for him, but instead they will become one of his followers!

http://www.discoveringislam.org/end_of_time.htm

There are many sections, including the Imam Mahdi section and the Dajjal, and what signs will come before it.


This site is excellent, the main page, but the only thing it lacks is the end times, as in the Dajjal and Imam Mahdi, The Dajjal is not completely metaphorical in the way Osama Abdallah thinks it is (I think he thinks that).

And kindly STOP interpreting ahadith in your own way, if you have any questions, ASK Me, i study the end times, history of religions (I am a student of comparative religion) literally all the time (In my free time).

And btw, HORUS does not exist, so stop making foolish interpretations in saying that 'Horus' will misguide people and make them one of his followers, The dajjal is the false-messiah the Jews await for, I repeat, he dajjal is the false-messiah the Jews await for.

Peace be upon you.

I NEVER said Horus was a real person. Horus is a personification for the Sun. I'm not misinterpreting hadith, in fact, my views make more sense than yours. The character of Horus, however, matches the following:

* One eyed (in a sense of sun worship. Left eye represents the moon and the right eye represents the sun)
* Blind in the left eye - Referring to the fact that moon worship will be dead long before, but sun worship will go in till the end
* Red skinned
* "There would be written between his two eyes (the word) Kafir (infidel) and everyone who would resent his deeds would be able to read" - People will start seeing through the deception at the 11th hour
* Raising dead people back to life - Look in the ancient Egyptian glyphs. All stories of the sun (or as they call it, Horus) could raise the dead crops back to life. The Sun promised a lot, along with the Nile river. It was also important for rain.
* Whirlwind travel around the world - The sun appears to be 'traveling' as seen from an Earthly perspective
* Commands rain or drought - This is one of the more obvious ones. When the Sun has fewer sunspots, it gives off less energy, less energy makes its way to Earth, and our planet cools down.
* Why do you think our beloved prophet (PBUH) recommended the first ten verses of Surah-al-Kahf?
Well, read em and find out!

1) [All] praise is [due] to Allah , who has sent down upon His Servant the Book and has not made therein any deviance.
That's right. Anything with alterations, like the bible, is not to be trusted.

2) [He has made it] straight, to warn of severe punishment from Him and to give good tidings to the believers who do righteous deeds that they will have a good reward (3) In which they will remain forever
A warning to those who try to follow the deception, and a reward for those who stay on track

4) And to warn those who say, " Allah has taken a son."
Christians

5) They have no knowledge of it, nor had their fathers. Grave is the word that comes out of their mouths; they speak not except a lie.
A lie, or deception. He's not going to do some "epic magic"

6) Then perhaps you would kill yourself through grief over them, [O Muhammad], if they do not believe in this message, [and] out of sorrow.
Self explanatory

7) Indeed, We have made that which is on the earth adornment for it that We may test them [as to] which of them is best in deed.
Self-evident...

8 ) And indeed, We will make that which is upon it [into] a barren ground.
The Earth running out of water

9) Or have you thought that the companions of the cave and the inscription were, among Our signs, a wonder?
This one needs some explaining. A hadith by our prophet (PBUH) says that judgment day would be like waking up from a long dream (Inception borrowed the idea of 'waking up' when you die).

10) [Mention] when the youths retreated to the cave and said, "Our Lord, grant us from Yourself mercy and prepare for us from our affair right guidance."
When you 'wake up' you will ask for mercy

Dajjal will try to divert people to the wrong path, or Christianity.
     He would come to the people and invite them (to a wrong religion) and they would affirm their faith in him and respond to him. (Sahih Muslim 41.7015)

As for this hadith you mentioned:


    Anas b. Malik reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: The Dajjal would be followed by seventy thousand Jews of Isfahan wearing Persian shawls. (Sahih Muslim 41.7034)

It clearly says he would be "FOLLOWED BY", meaning the Jews have already accepted Dajjal.


Christians and other non believers aren't allowed to enter Makkah and Medina. This prophecy, like all the others, have already been fulfilled.


    He would come but would not be allowed to ether the mountain passes to Medina. (Sahih Muslim 41.7017)

    I am going to tell you about myself and I am Dajjal and would be soon permitted to get out and so I shall get out and travel in the land, and will not spare any town where I would not stay for forty nights except Mecca and Medina as these two (places) are prohibited (areas) for me and I would not make an attempt to enter any one of these two. An angel with a sword in his hand would confront me and would bar my way and there would be angels to guard every passage leading to it; (Sahih Muslim 41.7028)

We've all heard that when Isa (PBUH) will come at judgment day, he will 'break the cross', meaning tell the Christians that they were wrong! It's also in their bible (Jesus will push them away).

So he will metaphorically 'kill' the deception, or Dajjal.

Oh and Horus, the personification of the Sun, 'performed miracles', meaning he 'walked on water', as in, his reflection was cast over the waters.

Repeating: I know Horus isn't a real person, it's a personification of the Sun.


     When the enemy of Allah would see him, it would (disappear) just as the salt dissolves itself in water and if he (Jesus) were not to confront them at all, even then it would dissolve completely, but Allah would kill them by his hand and he would show them their blood on his lance (the lance of Jesus Christ). (Sahih Muslim 41.6924)

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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2013, 09:19:29 AM »
Did you even watch and read the stuff I sent you?
Lmao, with your Horus bogus.
The Dajjal will be a literal person, it's only sects like Shiites who deny the existence of him and think he is merely a system.
Isa Aleyhi salam will kill Dajjal at the gate of Ludd.
It's not a metaphor.
As for Christianity being gone, Isa Aleyhisalam WILL break the cross , meaning that Christianity will not be followed anymore.

The antichrist will be someone who will apear in Isfahan, you make no sense at all, you claimed that 70,000 jews already follow him, what crap are you talking about? You first claimed that Christianity is Dajjal, seriously, stop with your [censored] theories, it's numptys like you who 'convert' to islam and make bogus theorys and misguide others.

" We've all heard that when Isa (PBUH) will come at judgment day, he will 'break the cross', meaning tell the Christians that they were wrong! It's also in their bible " You wrote this, what crap are you talking about?
This will happen when Isa Aleyhi salam returns to earth, he Christianity and Judaism will not be followed anymore, seriously, again, stop with your stupid theories.

The Dajjal will be the greatest test mankind will ever recieve, educate yourself ABOUT IT from real muslim scholars, not these bogus conspiracy theorists who interpret ahadith in their own way when they have no knowledge about Islam.

and PLEASE STOP MAKING STUPID TOPICS, for example, " oh is circling the kaaba idol worship "?

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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2013, 10:48:06 AM »
The statue of liberty, is Nimrod's wife and his mother.
Also, the freemasons/illuminati were not founded in the 18th Century.
They go way back, Nimrod was one of the earliest founders.

Also, the Dajjal is a literal person, but freemasonry is his system, we are likely to see him our life time, (May Allah protect us all).
Christians don't worship the sun.

Scripture says many will be misled by the one-eyed, and only the believers can read the 'kufr' on his forehead. What is the importance of the forehead? In the Qur'an, it is well known that lying is generated from the forehead. Thus, he will use mental deception and mislead the youth. I have interpreted this in my own way. The "one-eyed" is a reference to Horus, and the believers will see through Christian sun worship. Dajjal = Christianity.

Think about it! Christians worship on SUNday when the Sun is rising from the East, they pray towards the EAST. Jesus is a great ripoff of the ancient Egyptian sun God Horus: 12 disciples, "only begotten son", death for three days then resurrection, birth under the star Sirius, followed by three kings, it goes on and on but no one will notice and no one will care. This is the power of Dajjal.
Careful when you talk about Jesus PBUH bro. We do after all believe he was a prophet too.

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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2013, 11:19:02 AM »
The statue of liberty, is Nimrod's wife and his mother.
Also, the freemasons/illuminati were not founded in the 18th Century.
They go way back, Nimrod was one of the earliest founders.

Also, the Dajjal is a literal person, but freemasonry is his system, we are likely to see him our life time, (May Allah protect us all).
Christians don't worship the sun.

Scripture says many will be misled by the one-eyed, and only the believers can read the 'kufr' on his forehead. What is the importance of the forehead? In the Qur'an, it is well known that lying is generated from the forehead. Thus, he will use mental deception and mislead the youth. I have interpreted this in my own way. The "one-eyed" is a reference to Horus, and the believers will see through Christian sun worship. Dajjal = Christianity.

Think about it! Christians worship on SUNday when the Sun is rising from the East, they pray towards the EAST. Jesus is a great ripoff of the ancient Egyptian sun God Horus: 12 disciples, "only begotten son", death for three days then resurrection, birth under the star Sirius, followed by three kings, it goes on and on but no one will notice and no one will care. This is the power of Dajjal.
Careful when you talk about Jesus PBUH bro. We do after all believe he was a prophet too.

but we don't believe he was the sun of God, the 12 disciples, crucifixion, three kings, etc.
In fact, Paul didn't even know the historical Jesus

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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2013, 11:57:14 PM »
You heard 'Grand Deception' by K-Rino?

Lyrics: http://rapgenius.com/K-rino-grand-deception-lyrics

 

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