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Please note that when God said “I am” in Exodus (3:14), He used in Greek “ho on”, but, when Jesus said in John (8:58) “I am”, he used in Greek “ego eimi”. Those are two different words, but those who translated the Bible from Greek to English translated it incorrectly.

The correct meaning is of "I am":

Please note that the Greek translation of the Hebrew text in Exodus (3.14) is “Ego eimi ho On”. The Creator’s description of Himself is translated into Greek as (ἐγώ εἰμι ὁ ὤν Ego eimi ho on = I am the One Who IS). But in John 8.24, “...I am (he)! (ἐγώ εἰμι Ego eimi)” is the Greek translation of the Hebrew statement “I (am) he (אֲנִי֙ ה֔וּא Anee hoo)”. I found a video on Youtube that explains the meaning of “I am” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzheOdj0cFg
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Peace be upon you,

Christians believe that Jesus is god or son of God “equal to God” because of a few verses in the Bible that they misunderstood and I will explain them and prove that Jesus is neither God nor son of God.

•   John (8:58) Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”

Christians believe that when Jesus said “I am” in John (8:58), he meant the same “I am” that God used in Exodus (3:14). Therefore, Jesus is god.

•   Exodus (3:14) God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.” And he said, “Say this to the people of Israel: ‘I AM has sent me to you.’”

Please note that when God said “I am” in Exodus (3:14), He used in Greek “ho on”, but, when Jesus said in John (8:58) “I am”, he used in Greek “ego eimi”. Those are two different words, but those who translated the Bible from Greek to English translated it incorrectly.

If Jesus meant to say that (before Abraham was, I am “god”), why then he said in John (5:30) that “by myself, I can do nothing”? God said in the Bible that He is self-sufficient. When Jesus said that by himself he can do nothing meant that he is dependent on God. If Jesus depends on someone else, then he is not God. When Jesus said “before Abraham was, I am”, he simply meant to say that before God created Abraham, and before God placed mankind on earth, he was in the knowledge of God that he will be the Messiah “Prophet”.

•   John (5:30) By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.

Also, if Jesus meant to say that (before Abraham was, I am “god”), why then he said “The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father”? This clearly means that he is not god because he does not have any authority.
 
•   John (14:10) Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work

•   John (14:6) Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Jesus said “I am the way and the truth…” Please note that every prophet that God sent to mankind from Adam, Noah, John, Zachariah, Moses, Joseph, etc. was also the way and the truth because all those prophets preached the message of God to mankind. Therefore, they were the way and truth.

Jesus said “No one comes to the Father except through me” which means “through his teaching” which is the Bible that God gave to him to preach to people. Christians assumed that it means “except through worshiping me” which is completely incorrect because Jesus clearly testified in the Bible that he is not God. He said “the Lord our God” which means his God too. Also, note that Jesus said “the Lord is one” which means that Jesus is not part of God i.e. trinity.

•   Mark (12:29) Jesus answered, “The most important is, ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.

When Jesus said “I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me”, he did not mean to say that he and the Father are one. “I am in the Father” means he is protected and supported by God, and “that the Father is in me” means that the love of God is in Jesus’ heart e.g. Jesus keeps thinking of how to please God.

Christians will disagree and say that John (10:30) says that Jesus and the Father are one. Therefore, Jesus is god.

•   John (10:30) I and my Father are one

But in next verses, when the Jews heard Jesus saying that he and the Father are one, they picked up stones to stone him because they told him you are claiming that you are god.

•   John (10:31) Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him

•   John (10:33) “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”

In next verse, Jesus told the Jews, is not written in your own Scriptures that God said you all are gods. Jesus told Jew you all are gods, does this mean that Jews are gods? No, “gods” mean those who preach the commandments of God e.g. messengers of God.

•   John (10:34) Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law: 'I said you are gods'?

Then Jesus said in John (17:21 & 23) to his disciples Peter, Thomas, Judas, etc. that you all are in me just as I in the Father. Does this mean that these disciples are also gods? No. Therefore, when Jesus said “I and my Father are one” meant to say “one in the same purpose” which is to preach the commandments of God to mankind e.g. messenger of God, not “one in nature.” “One in the purpose” does not mean that Jesus is equal to God. “Purpose” means that both God and His servant Jesus have the same purpose which is to preach the commandments of God to mankind. 

•   John (17:21) that they may all be one; just as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.

•   John (17:23) I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.

Christians also misunderstand the meaning of these two verses.

•   (John 1:1) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

•   (John 1:14) The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

“In the beginning was the Word” – the meaning of “Word” is the commandment of God.
“The Word became flesh” – means the commandment of God which is “be and it is” became flesh that is Jesus.

Well, the Bible is the Word of God. Does this mean that the Bible is god? No, it means that the Bible is the commandments of God.

In Quran, the angels told Mary that God gives you good news of a “WORD” from Him who is Jesus. The meaning of “WORD” is a commandment.
 
•   Quran (3:45) [And mention] when the angels said, O Mary, indeed Allah gives you good tidings of a word from Him, whose name will be the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary - distinguished in this world and the Hereafter and among those brought near [to Allah].

Then Mary told the angels, how will I have a child when no man ever has sex with me? The angels replied, this is the commandment of God, when He wants anything, He only says to it “Be” and it is.

•   Quran (3:47) She said, “My Lord, how will I have a child when no man has touched me?” [The angel] said, “Such is Allah; He creates what He wills. When He decrees a matter, He only says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.

God is one God, and Jesus is a lord. The meaning of lord in the Bible for Jesus is a servant of God, prophet, messenger, teacher, sir, leader, mediator, and king. It doe not mean God.

•   Ephesians (1:3) “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:”

•   1 Timothy (2:5-6) For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

Christians believe that God came to earth in the shape of a man “Jesus”, but God says He is not a man.

•   Hosea (11:9) I will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I am God, and not man; the Holy One in the midst of thee: and I will not enter into the city.

•   Numbers (23:19) God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

Christians misunderstand the meaning of “they worshipped Jesus” and assumed that he is god. Please note that the meaning of “let all the angels of God worship Him” is “let all angels of God accept him as a leader”. God also said in Quran that He instructed all angels to bow “prostrate” to Adam. This does not mean that Adam is god or equal to God. It just simply means that God wants all angels to accept Adam as a leader.
 
•   Hebrews (1:6) And when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says, “And let all the angels of God worship Him.”

•   Quran (2:34) And [mention] when We said to the angels, “Prostrate before Adam”; so they prostrated, except for Iblees (Satan). He refused and was arrogant and became of the disbelievers.

Those who are in the boat “worshiped him” mean that they obeyed him and followed his teaching. Please note that they told him “you are son of God”, they did not tell him “you are god”.

•   Matthew (14:33) And those who were in the boat worshiped Him, saying, “You are certainly God’s Son!”

Some Christians believe that since they told him son of God, therefore he is equal to God “e.g. Trinity”. Well, the Bible also says that Adam, Ephraim, etc. are sons of God. Does this mean that Ephraim is equal to God? No, this is the same for Jesus. The meaning of son of God does not mean partner with God or little god or equal to God because God said in Isaiah (42:8) that He does not share His glory with anyone. “Son of God” means one who God loved and chose among people to preach His message to mankind because he is more sincere and dedicated to God than other mankind.

•   Jeremiah (31:20) Is not Ephraim my dear son, the child in whom I delight...

•   Luke (3:38) Kenan was the son of Enosh. Enosh was the son of Seth. Seth was the son of Adam. Adam was the son of God.

This verse says “king of the Jews” which means leader. Then it says (the star comes to worship him) which means it comes to follow him.
 
•   Matthew (2:2) “Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we saw His star in the east and have come to worship Him.”

If the meaning of “worship me” above is Jesus is god, why did he say in this verse “the Father is greater than I”.
 
•   John (14:28) You heard me say to you, ‘I am going away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.

And why did he say in this verse “My father… is greater than all”.

•   John (10:29) My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand.
 
And why did he say in this verse “…they belong to the Father who sent me”.

•   John (14:24) … These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.

And why did he say in this verse “the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent”.

•   John (17:3) Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

And why did he say in this verse “Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN approved by God to you”.

•   Acts (2:22) “Men of Israel, hear these words! Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved by God to you by mighty works and wonders and signs which God did by him in the midst of you, even as you yourselves know,

And why did he tell people that he is nothing, not even good? God alone is “good”.

•   Luke (18:18-19) Then a certain ruler asked Him, “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” “Why do you call Me good?” Jesus replied. “No one is good except God alone.

Christians believe that when Jesus said that he is not good or a man approved by God or etc., he meant to humble himself like a human. Well, in this situation, Jesus misled mankind, and this is impossible. This is only the way how Christians think, and this is not from the Bible. There is not a single verse in the Bible that Jesus “himself” claimed explicitly that he is god. But in Quran, there are many verses where Allah clearly declared that He is God.

•   Quran (20:14) Indeed, I am Allah. There is no deity except Me, so worship Me and establish prayer for My remembrance.

Please note that all Arabic-speaking people from all religions call God “Allah” including Christians. So, you should know that Christians who speak Arabic call God “Allah”. Allah is the translation of God.
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Quran Morality and Moral Code, Laws & QA / The quest of all people for Salaat
« Last post by Emre_1974tr on June 25, 2022, 05:14:54 AM »
Allah Almighty has set up His system in such a way that if you obey His commands and prohibitions, you begin to experience blessings in this world, and if you do not, you begin to experience hardships in this world...

Prayer is one of them.

Not only is prayer in itself good for the human psyche, but the time of the morning prayer is precisely the time when nature begins to come alive and joy and peace are at their peak. And even if the person who wakes up at this time does nothing, he will still be filled with the joy of living. And if he performs his prayers, his happiness, peace and joy will grow exponentially.

In addition, the time of Maghrib prayer is also a time of peace, introspection and relaxation. By praying at this time, right on time, you will be able to maximize the benefits of this transitional phase and minimize the problems that may arise from it.

In other words, praying 3 times a day will provide you with countless material and spiritual benefits. It will enable you to perceive its traces in this world even before you go to paradise. The benefits to your physical and mental health are countless. I don't even need to mention again the real beauties of the work such as good deeds and getting closer to Allah.

And if you don't do this, apart from the reward and servitude part of it, what will you miss in terms of worldly blessings?

This is what happens; you start looking for help from yoga, meditation, stimulation of your energy point on your forehead (Shirodhara), as Westerners and Far Easterners are doing now. You will be swimming in depression and stress, and you will be in a hurry to look for the beauty of prayer in these methods. In fact, if there is a craze for meditation, a craze for yoga, a craze for Shirodhara in today's world, it is because of the search for prayer. It is the lack of it.

You can find the "Shirodhara" technique, the real name in Ayurveda, on the internet, on search engines, and you can examine it.

And today people are in a rush to get up and do yoga in the morning just in time for the sunrise. Because they think it makes them more peaceful and reduces their stress and depression.

And they call this cleansing gymnastics in the morning at the time of sunrise "sun salutation". And again, if you study this yoga practice, you will see that the movements are very similar to salaat.

In the same way, in the evening there is a similar yoga exercise, and people are trying to achieve peace and health.

And apart from that, they usually try to meditate twice a day.

And again, people are actually looking for prayer/salaat. They are struggling to attain the beauties and blessings it will give. But unfortunately they are looking for this happiness in the wrong place.

So, if we say that prayer is superior to practices like meditation and yoga, then there must be some concrete evidence to confirm this.

Yes, there is. As even Dr. Deepak Chopra(now he is Muslim), an ayurvedic expert, admits and even writes about in some of his books, the longest-lived people in the world are usually Muslims. And these people have achieved this not through meditation or superfoods like ginseng, like the Far Easterners, but through rituals like prayer and fasting and foods like yogurt and red meat.

In today's geography, societies with long-lived individuals called "super centenarians" can be found in places like Georgia and Azerbaijan. They live especially in mountainous areas. But since their genes are mixed, scientists explain their longevity not by genetic factors but by their way of life.

The longest known long-lived person is the Azerbaijani Shirali Mislimov. He is said to have passed away in 1973 at the age of 168.

The healthy people of the town of Lerik on the Azerbaijan-Iran border are especially noteworthy.

In fact, the benefits of prayer and fasting are now being discovered by the scientific world. They are more beneficial for health and quality of life than yoga and other techniques.

We hope that people all over the world will discover the prayer they have been searching for without realizing it and take another step towards true happiness and salvation.

(My Turkish article translated with machine)

http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2011/07/tum-insanlarn-namaz-arays.html

Peace
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I am sure you all know that Prophet Mohamed was illiterate.

•   Isaiah (29:12) And when they give the book to one who cannot read, saying, “Read this,” he says, “I cannot read.”

Therefore, Prophet Mohamed fulfilled the prophecy in Isaiah, because Jesus was a teacher which means he was literate. Isaiah says that the prophet will be illiterate. This is to prove that God was speaking about another man other than Jesus.

Cheers and keep in mind that the fire of hell is not for a few moments and you exit, it’s FOREVER.

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Peace Fadi

No, in these 2 verses it says that heaven and hell is not a law that happens by itself, it happens because Allah willed it so with His free will. If you notice, the same expression is used for those in heaven.

Here Allah Almighty is telling us what He will do in the future.

And He says "unless I will otherwise, I will never remove those in Paradise".

And he promises he won't.

In other words, "I can change this judgment if I want to, but those in Paradise will stay there forever because I freely willed that they should stay there."

By the way, paradise and hell are in the Hereafter Universe called the Floor of the Lord (Indallah). It exists even now and there are planets in that universe. The heaven and earth refer to that Hereafter Universe and the planets in it, of course, and they are eternal.

https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=3772

By the way, the verses repeatedly say that a person who enters hell will never enter paradise. The only way out for those in hell is to perish with hell, that is, to taste eternal death.

Peace
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Peace be upon you,

Regarding your argument that some Muslims will not enter hellfire for a limited time, and the sinners among Muslims will be punished on earth before they die is incorrect. Many Muslims will enter hellfire but for a limited time according to their sins if God decided not to forgive them.

God said in Quran that those who will enter hellfire will abide in it as long as the heavens and the earth endure, except what God will. The meaning of “they will abide in it as long as the heavens and the earth endure” does not mean the earth we live on today or the heaven we see in our naked eyes. It will be different earth and heavens because God said in Quran that He will replace the earth and heavens. Also the meaning of “they will abide in it as long as the heavens and the earth endure” is “will abide in it forever” 

•   Quran (14:48) [It will be] on the Day the earth will be replaced by another earth, and the heavens [as well], and all creatures will come out before Allah, the One, the Prevailing.

The meaning of “except what God will” is “except they will NOT abide in hellfire forever e.g. will enter hellfire temporary and then exit and enter paradise forever”.

God also said that those who will enter paradise will abide in it as long as the heavens and the earth endure, except what God will. The meaning of “they will abide in it as long as the heavens and the earth endure” is “they will enter paradise immediately forever and will not be punished in hellfire”. And the meaning of “except what God will” is “they will NOT enter paradise immediately and they will be punished temporarily in hellfire and then enter paradise”.

•   Quran (11:106) As for those who were [destined to be] wretched, they will be in the Fire. For them therein is [violent] exhaling and inhaling.
•   (107) [They will be] abiding therein as long as the heavens and the earth endure, except what your Lord should will. Indeed, your Lord is an effecter of what He intends.
•   (108) And as for those who were [destined to be] prosperous, they will be in Paradise, abiding therein as long as the heavens and the earth endure, except what your Lord should will - a bestowal uninterrupted.

Please feel free to reply with support "Verses" from Quran if you disagree.

Regards,
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God said in Quran that Christians and Jews know that Mohamed is the Prophet of God and Quran is the Holy Book of God as they know their own children, but they refuse to believe because they are arrogant.

God said in Isaiah that His servant will GROW UP in a DRY LAND. Jesus grew up in Nazareth which is a VERY fertile land (with many gardens). While Mohamed grew up in Makkah (Saudi Arabia) which is a desert e.g. dry land.

•   Isaiah (53-2) He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.

Also, God said that His servant will sing a song of praise to God from the EASTERN border of Egypt which is Saudi Arabia where Mohamed came from. But Jesus came from Nazareth which is the NORTH of Egypt.

Kedar is the son of Ishmael. Kedar lived near the eastern border of Egypt which is Saudi Arabia. God said that His servant will sing a song of praise to God in the city where Kedar lived, which is Saudi Arabia.

•   Genesis (25:13) These are the names of the sons of Ishmael…then Kedar…

•   Genesis (25:18) [Ishmael] His descendants settled in the area from Havilah to Shur, near the eastern border of Egypt, as you go toward Ashur…

•   Isaiah (42:10-12) Sing to the LORD a new song, his praise from the ends of the earth…let the settlements where Kedar lives rejoice

Do Christians need a magnifier to see these SUPER CRYSTAL CLEAR verses to understand that God was talking about another man other than Jesus? Christians and Jews know all of these facts but they don’t want to believe because they don’t want to follow Mohamed who is an Arab man because they are arrogant and think that they are superior to Arabs.
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The understanding of Christians are that human look like all three Gods as the outer appearance is direct copy them.

however the behaviour of God are not like man.
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Peace be upon you,

But the books that Christians follow say God is not a man. How then Christians believe that God came to earth in the shape of a man “Jesus”.

•   Hosea (11:9) I will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I am God, and not man; the Holy One in the midst of thee: and I will not enter into the city.

•   Numbers (23:19) God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

Also, the books that Christians believe in say that Adam and Ephraim are sons of God. Why then do Christians believe that Jesus alone is the son of God???

•   Jeremiah (31:20) Is not Ephraim my dear son, the child in whom I delight...

•   Luke (3:38) Kenan was the son of Enosh. Enosh was the son of Seth. Seth was the son of Adam. Adam was the son of God.

It's obvious that Christians do not follow their books but they follow their own desires.

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In Other Religions / Age of marriage in Hinduism
« Last post by Sama on June 12, 2022, 06:50:55 AM »
Historically, there was no minimum age for marriage in India throughout ages. Books considered sacred by Hindus point out that it was common for girls about 6 or 8 years old to be married. 

The laws of Manu also don't forbid that the girl is married before she attains the age of puberty:

   
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88. To a distinguished, handsome suitor (of) equal (caste) should (a father) give his daughter in accordance with the prescribed rule, though she have not attained (the proper age).

The Gautama's Dharmasūtra, which is believed to be the oldest of the four Hindu Dharmasastras, doesn't consider puberty a prerequisite for marriage:

   
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21. A girl should be given in marriage before (she attains the age of) puberty.

    22. He who neglects it, commits sin.

Read more: https://comparativreligion.blogspot.com/2022/06/age-of-marriage-in-hinduism.html
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