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Offline FARHAN_UDDIN

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SURAH ASHAMS
« on: July 21, 2013, 12:06:52 PM »







 

 

 

 
Assalamualykum.

 

وَنَفْسٍ وَمَا سَوَّاهَا

 

 

Brother the above is the 7th verse of the Surah Ashams.I copied the verse from the online Quran. Okay, as you can see there is no shaddah/tashdeed  over " وَ "  in the word " وَمَا   " But the Quran which I have at my home contains a shaddah/tashdeed   over " وَ ".

 

So, I'm confused. Is this a mistake or one of the rules of Arabic Grammar ? Please explain me this.










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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2013, 12:20:23 PM »
Waalykumassalam
Their are ten different modes of recitation all which have an unbroken chain of narration to the prophet (saws).your Qur'an is probably a different mode of recitation.. Here is a link that explains this in further detail
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Text/Qiraat/

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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2013, 01:22:24 PM »
Brother, as you said there are ten types of recitation, that means are there ten types of writings also?

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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2013, 04:58:23 PM »
salam alaikum

There is no shaddah.

I've checked out my Yusuf Ali translation and i found the shaddah, which is wrong. The publisher must be notified about this mistake and this edition must be banned till correcting the error.

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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2013, 02:54:14 AM »
Assalamualykum


 Brother, are you sure there is shaddah?. And, will giving or not giving shaddah change the meaning?


I'm confused. Recently I memorized the Surah and yesterday when I was comparing the verse with my Quran and the online Quran and the Quran which was bought from Saudi Arabia, I found this. I have three Qurans at my home and among those two contains shaddah.

 Can you prove, that it's wrong? Soon the Christen missionaries may use this to say that Quran is corrupted. Then ,how will we respond to them?

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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2013, 06:13:05 AM »
Can anyone please help me with this topic? I'm confused. And, as there are seven types of reading of the Quran, are there 7 types of writing?

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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2013, 06:57:41 AM »
Assalamualykum


 Brother, are you sure there is shaddah?. And, will giving or not giving shaddah change the meaning?
و عليكم السلام

و has only fathah. There is no shaddah. This error can't be found in any arabic quran. It was an error in meanings translation of Yusuf Ali.

This letter means "and" , the shaddah can't be put on it.

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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2013, 07:07:12 AM »
Brother one last Question, this means if we put shaddah it won't totally have any meaning?  And brother as I read Yusuf Ali's edition, and as I don't know much about these rules, how can I prevent such mistakes?

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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2013, 01:47:53 PM »
I never noticed this "Shaddah" anywhere . But if someone did put it then it might be because they thought it stands for a rule of "Tajweed" which is "Idgham" meaning to fuse a letter with another . In this case the و might sound like it is "Mashdoodah" . And spare me already . Missionaries using this to attack Quran ? Even if someone did a mistake , we have the original text to return to and grab them by the ear saying "Don't do it again" . So where's the original script Christians return to in order to determine which of the over 9000 - Just for the internet meme :) - versions of Bible ?

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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2013, 09:24:08 AM »
Assalamualykum


 Thanks brother Black Muslim. Okay tell me, did the rule of "Idgham" existed back then, or its a new rule in Arabic grammar?

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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2013, 12:47:47 AM »
Assalamualykum.

وَنَفْسٍ وَمَا سَوَّاهَا

 
Brother the above is the 7th verse of the Surah Ashams.I copied the verse from the online Quran. Okay, as you can see there is no shaddah/tashdeed  over " وَ "  in the word " وَمَا   " But the Quran which I have at my home contains a shaddah/tashdeed   over " وَ ".

So, I'm confused. Is this a mistake or one of the rules of Arabic Grammar ? Please explain me this.

As'salamu Alaikum dear Brothers and Sisters,

I have checked my Abdullah Yusuf Ali English translation Noble Quran, and I found it to be correct.  What you saw dear brother was a FAT-HA (fatha) vowel.  Not a shaddah vowel (which makes a letter be pronounced twice, as in Muhammad).  The following image gives the correct spelling of the Noble Verse as you have also provided in the text above:



(http://www.answering-christianity.com/noble_quran_png_files/91_7.png)

You can also visit:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/noble_quran_png_images_file_paths.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac3.htm#links
www.QuranSearch.com


I hope this helps, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2013, 01:24:50 AM »
Assalamualykum.


 Welcome back brother Osama and Ramadan Mubarak. Long time no see. Okay lets come back to the issue.

Brother below is a picture of Surah shams from Google Image where you will see shaddah on the second "waw' in the verse that you sent me. Probably it's verse no-6.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HTMsPJM4L_U/Sh0J9AGoKhI/AAAAAAAAAP8/QeVwHAeRYtw/s400/SurahShamsWithoutTranslatio.gif


Brother, I heard that we have to read the verse with shaddah on the second waw according to the rule of Idgham. But brother I'm not sure as I don't have much knowledge in Arabic, I'm asking you. Brother, below is an article which explains the rule of Idgham:

 

http://www.islamawakened.com/durusulquran/lesson28/L-27.3.htm

 

 
Brother, one last thing, did these rules existed in Arabic Grammar back then(1400 ago)? or these are new?

 Well I'm confused. I don't know which rule should I follow? Please brother help.

 
May Allah shower His unending blessings upon you, your family and the entire Muslim Ummah.


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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2013, 01:52:59 AM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Farhan,

Thank you dear brother.  Ramadan Mubarak for you and your family, and to also to all of the Muslims who are reading this and to their families.  Ameen. 

The image the you provided akhi seems to be a non-Arabic Quran akhi.  Yes, the letters are all in Arabic, but I don't know which Quran is this.  It is certainly not the official Quran that we have, which I provided an image of the Noble Verse above.  And like I said, I checked the Abdullah Yusuf Ali Quran, and I found the spelling to be exactly as the one I provided above, which you also correctly provided in the text above.  But as to this image I am not sure if it's even an official Arabic Noble Quran.  It could be from another country.  Or it could be a copy of a Quran that is altered to help the reader read the Holy Quran with Tajweed.  I am not sure.  But for sure, this is not the way the Noble Verse is spelled.  The same goes with all of the Noble Verses in the gif image.

As to whether these rules existed 1,400 years ago or not, here is what is Miraculous about the Noble Quran:

1-  The Holy Quran that we have today is the official copy that Allah Almighty Sent down to Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.

2-  The way the Holy Book is officially written is the way Allah Almighty officially wanted it to be.

This is further proven here: http://www.answering-christianity.com/quran/textual.htm.

I personally believe that the Holy Quran created these rules.  In other words, they came to existence from the Holy Quran's Writing.  Again, this is due to the Miracle of the Holy Quran's Text.  Please visit the link that I gave for more details.

I hope this helps insha'Allah.  Please feel free to ask more questions dear brother.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

 

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