Author Topic: Should we be surprised that there is no scientific evidence for God?  (Read 6917 times)

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Offline mclinkin94

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Asalamu Alaikum everyone!

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Re: Should we be surprised that there is no scientific evidence for God?
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2014, 03:41:59 AM »
Dear Brother ,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C5pq7W5yRM(this was posted by someone else on this forum)

THERE IS SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE FOR "COSMIC CONCIOUSNESS", WHICH IS THE GOD OF ISLAM.

All the characters of "cosmic consciousness" matches with Allah swt . 

AND ALLAH IS ALL-CONCIOUS,ALL-SEEING

This is itself is enough to disprove the who of christianity

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Re: Should we be surprised that there is no scientific evidence for God?
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2014, 10:29:32 AM »
Dear Brother ,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C5pq7W5yRM(this was posted by someone else on this forum)

THERE IS SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE FOR "COSMIC CONCIOUSNESS", WHICH IS THE GOD OF ISLAM.

All the characters of "cosmic consciousness" matches with Allah swt . 

AND ALLAH IS ALL-CONCIOUS,ALL-SEEING

This is itself is enough to disprove the who of christianity

I'm glad that you have posted that video, as the user that introduced it here is me  ;)

What we have here in quantum physics is not proof of God, it is suggestive of God. The article discusses why there is no physical proof of God. Why we are unable to see him-direct proof of God's existence. The answer to that is that science is unable to observe anything beyond matter/space-time/energy. Allah exists outside of matter/space-time/energy (since he is the creator of matter/energy/space/time), therefore you must conclude that we cannot have scientific proof of God. In other words, we can't see him or detect him! So to give an example of what I mean by the proof/ suggestive of God. Let's take aliens. The fact that there are many suns and elements and water across the universe points us to the fact that we have Alien life! In other words it is suggestive that alien life exists! But it is not proof that Alien life exists. The proof that Alien life exists would be in finding alien life!

If you are interested in the whole quantum physics and the existence of God, go to the guy's channel and watch the other videos he posted. Many quantum physicists are coming to that realization and seeing that sign (aya) of Allah. It is a sign of Allah, but it is not proof of Allah. In Islam, life is a test, if Allah proves to everyone definitively that he exists, it would violate your purpose in life-it would be like the professor giving you the answers to the exam. The quantum physics evidence is a sign from Allah, just as he promised he would show in the future:

Quran 41:53-54 We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it is evident to them that it is the truth. But is it not sufficient concerning your Lord that He is, over all things, a Witness? Unquestionably, they are in doubt about the meeting with their Lord. Unquestionably He is, of all things, encompassing.

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Re: Should we be surprised that there is no scientific evidence for God?
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2014, 12:04:19 PM »
Apparently we don't agree on the meaning of "Proof" . When we talk about material evidence , yes , Allah is beyond our ability to observe . So are the angels and devils . However , the basic logic is evidence that there has to be a creator . The well made universe keeps saying that there has to be a creator . That is enough evidence . To claim that all of this is a result of "chance" is madness itself .

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Re: Should we be surprised that there is no scientific evidence for God?
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2014, 02:38:08 PM »
Apparently we don't agree on the meaning of "Proof" . When we talk about material evidence , yes , Allah is beyond our ability to observe . So are the angels and devils . However , the basic logic is evidence that there has to be a creator . The well made universe keeps saying that there has to be a creator . That is enough evidence . To claim that all of this is a result of "chance" is madness itself .

Agreed!

The common perception though is that logic is not evidence. The interpretation of evidence uses logic and logic could work without evidence. But I do agree that when you examine the evidence in the universe, quantum mechanics and apply them in philosophical arguments, it becomes evident that there is a universal consciousness that created the universe--Allah.

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Re: Should we be surprised that there is no scientific evidence for God?
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2014, 09:09:31 AM »
Ahhh sorry bro

Can't we prove God by turning the tables around and asking them aethist to prove  "how something choose to exist when it did not exist"


 

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