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Offline Isa27James

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Jews saying we killed the Messiah son of Mary Prohet of Allah?
« on: September 22, 2014, 07:21:09 AM »
Assalam alykam. in surrah nisa verse 157. where it says the jews saying they. killed isa the messiah ibn mariam rasulallah?    are they saying these tittles for isa. or is Allah calling him these tittles?  because the jews did not believe. Isa was the messiah or a prophet???    or is it Allah addressing. Isa these. tittles  to.the belivers???  can you please answer this

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Re: Jews saying we killed the Messiah son of Mary Prohet of Allah?
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2014, 10:45:02 AM »
Assalam-Alaykum Brother,

The verse is 4:157

And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.

The Jews maybe were saying in a mocking way.

Your Question
Isa was the Messiah or Prophet?
In Islam Messiah doesn't mean God so Isa(PBUH) was a Prophet

or is it Allah addressing, Isa these titles to the believers?
Maybe

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Re: Jews saying we killed the Messiah son of Mary Prohet of Allah?
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2014, 07:59:19 AM »
Jewish Holy book Talmud in Sanhedrin 67a says : Jesus was hanged on the eve of Passover.

But Allah says that HE saved him from crucifixion- Read Ahmed Deedat's Crucifiction or Crucifixion and Gospel of Barnabas for more details.

Bible Hebrews 5:7 -  During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission.

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Re: Jews saying we killed the Messiah son of Mary Prohet of Allah?
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2014, 08:11:21 AM »
The jews were called by several prophets including their own Prophet moses pbuh as wicked and evil people.

Jesus pbuh said to him as killer of prophets in Matthew 23:37 & Luke 13:34

Brothers we have the habit taking everything literally. Allah is saying that the jews
boasted in their literatures as I mentioned above including Talmud and Midrash.

I hope u got it. Finally Allah knows the best.

Assalamalaikum

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Re: Jews saying we killed the Messiah son of Mary Prohet of Allah?
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2014, 08:22:07 AM »
Messiah is not a unique term  as it is used for many others and prophets when we read in –   1 Chronicles 16:22 - "Do not touch my anointed ones(Christs or Messiahs – Note it’s a plural – also Psalms 105:5); do my prophets no harm." 

Muslims during wudhu(ablution) masah which means pouring and rubbing wet hands throughout the head. Which the word Hebrew word messiah(the one who is anointed) stands for a person chosen to be a leader by rubbing oil on the head.

Taken from Ahmed Deedat's Combat kit...

MESSIAH TRANSLATED "CHRIST": Messiah is a very common noun in Hebrew. Translated into Greek it became "Christos", which in plain English means ANOINTED Every where the word "anointed" appears in the English translation of the Bible (any Version) that word in the Hebrew original is invariably the word "MESSIAH"! Here are a few ready examples (a) "I am the God of Beth-el, where thou ANOINTEDEST (messiah) the PILLAR. . ." (Christ Pillar!) Genesis 31:13 (b) 'And Moses took the ANOINTING (Messiah) OIL, and ANOINTED (Messiah) the TABERNACLE. . .'' (Christ Oil! and Christ Tabernacle!) LEVITICUS 8:10 (c) . . he (the Lord) shall give strength unto his king and exalt the HORN of his ANOINTED (messiah) . . • (Christ Horn!) I SAMUEL 2:10 (d) "Thou art the ANOINTED (Messiah) CHERUB (Christ Cherub!) EZEKIEL 28:14 (e) thus saith the Lord to his ANOINTED (messiah) CYRUS. . . (Christ CYRUS!) ISAIAH 45:1 (God addresses even a pagan king as His Messiah!)

They wanted a Messiah who will take all the wealth,health and everything of Goyims(Gentiles) and give it to them.

I hope now u got it. Alhamdulillah

 

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