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Offline Ramihs97

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6 Days and Thumma.
« on: August 24, 2016, 04:40:37 AM »
Can someone explain to me what exactly is meant by 6 days to create heavens and earth ? I've heard zakir mention "Ayaminn" implies a long period and quran.com used (Epoches) but underneath said days.

Could someone find me proof regarding Ayaminn could mean periods of time and Thumma meaning moreover ? Since the universe came before the earth. Did zaghool najjar say the earth came before ?

This is somewhat urgent. Thank you.

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Re: 6 Days and Thumma.
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2016, 05:18:00 AM »
 The word "yawm" in the Quran can mean both a literal day and an indefinite period of time. Science proves that the world cannot be created in 6 twenty-four hour periods but it doesn't deny the world being created in 6 epochs (periods of time). The Bible also says that the world is created in 6 days, but the days in the Bible are literal. And that is a scientific mistake.  In fact, Islamic scholars had also suggested the idea that the 6 days don't have to be literal! This is unlike the Christian scholars who denied that.


Shaykh Al-Qaradhaawi said in Hady Al-Islam: “Perhaps these days are six phases and periods and it is only Allaah who knows their duration; each day is defined by the work achieved in it; or it means six astronomical cycles which we do not know, which are other than our days that are related to the solar cycle; or it means six phases that had passed on these creatures. All of this is possible, and the Arabic language may refer this, and the religion does not prevent it.” [End of quote]

Sayyid Qutb  may  Allaah  have  mercy  upon  him says in his interpretation of Surah Al-Furqan [Quran 25]: “The days of Allaah during which He created the heavens and the earth are definitely not our days on earth. Our days are a shadow of the solar system, and a measure of an astronomical cycle which existed after the creation of the heavens and the earth, which is measured by the duration of the rotation of the earth around itself in front of the sun. . . Perhaps these six days are of the days of Allaah which no one knows their extent but Him, but they witnessed the completion of spaced out phases in the heavens and the earth until they ended up in their current state.” [End of quote]



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Re: 6 Days and Thumma.
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2016, 05:36:42 AM »
But if it's not relating to our solar system then why was Day used and not period of time ?

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Re: 6 Days and Thumma.
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2016, 10:37:33 AM »
Also can someone prove to me that yawm means period and thumma can mean "moreover" and "and also"

Much appreciated.

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Re: 6 Days and Thumma.
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2016, 10:40:55 AM »
Yawm can be a period of time or a day,according to Arabic scholars if you read they say Yawm=Long periods of time

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Re: 6 Days and Thumma.
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2016, 11:13:17 AM »
I know but can someone prove them to me with some dictionary or something along with thumma

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Re: 6 Days and Thumma.
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2016, 11:56:29 AM »

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Re: 6 Days and Thumma.
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2016, 12:03:03 PM »
@AMuslimDude123 Thank you so much. Can you please also help with thumma ?

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Re: 6 Days and Thumma.
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2016, 12:37:06 PM »
Thumma?


http://www.exploring-islam.com/scientific-error-in-the-quran.html

I think this has to do with it since the questioner has a similar Question.

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Re: 6 Days and Thumma.
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2016, 12:40:11 PM »

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Re: 6 Days and Thumma.
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2016, 02:50:46 AM »
@AMuslimDude123 Thanks man. But can it be found in any dictionary?  Maybe in one of brother Osama's ?

I'm a little paranoid haha. Thanks.

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Re: 6 Days and Thumma.
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2016, 02:56:14 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIiVlO88D5o


The video,
The problem with Thumma Is,it uses a much more advanaced literacy,
So in the dictionary it isn't "ThumMA" its simply Thum,
so yeah,the Qur'anic Arabic is the Qur'ayshi(Now Hijazi) Arabic,so it is hard to tell,but the word Thumma IS in the Hijazi Dictionary.

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Re: 6 Days and Thumma.
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2016, 03:09:39 AM »
@AMuslimDude123 [censored] didnt he just say that moreover doesnt work because it's not on ancient arabic ? Didnt u just refute my question ?

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Re: 6 Days and Thumma.
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2016, 04:51:47 AM »
Thumma is a complex word,if the Qur'an says "Moreover" then it is moreover,We cannot put the Qur'an in the modern Dialect of Arabic,since Qur'an itself
has soo many complex words we doubt at first,but when we get more into the detail,we see what it really means,so if this is the doubt you have,look at other Muslim Scholar's opinions on this.

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Re: 6 Days and Thumma.
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2016, 05:20:41 AM »
I misunderstood. It actually can mean simultaneously even in ancient terms

 

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