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Please refute scientific error
« on: August 28, 2016, 07:39:06 AM »
Someone please refute the scientific errors in quran by Dr. Robert Morey. It's like 50 mins long [censored]...

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Re: Please refute scientific error
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2016, 09:26:00 AM »
URL link and a specific point or points to refute, please.

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Re: Please refute scientific error
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2016, 09:32:03 AM »
Someone please refute the scientific errors in quran by Dr. Robert Morey. It's like 50 mins long [censored]...


Read my comment on your last article.

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Re: Please refute scientific error
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2016, 09:32:49 AM »
 In "have you refuted the Irish infidel?".

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Re: Please refute scientific error
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2016, 09:46:55 AM »
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bGMZmLqz--E

Even david wood claimed to prove it.


@Abdullah Ive read it. I completely understand,however this video is about 50 minutes long so assumingly all points had to considered.

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Re: Please refute scientific error
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2016, 10:28:42 AM »
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bGMZmLqz--E

Even david wood claimed to prove it.


@Abdullah Ive read it. I completely understand,however this video is about 50 minutes long so assumingly all points had to considered.

 I watched a portion of it and his claims have been debunked already. Read my other long comment please. Stop entering anti-Islamic sites. Why a really you entering them? Do you want to losee faith? Your faith is already pretty weak in the beginning so why make it weaker? He also talks Bouton contradictions In the Quran which have been dealt with many times. Use this website:

Www.searching-islam.com


Just because the video is 50 minutes long that doesn't mean that he made many points. His speech is very slow and he keeps on repeating the same point.

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Re: Please refute scientific error
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2016, 11:05:20 AM »
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bGMZmLqz--E

Even david wood claimed to prove it.


@Abdullah Ive read it. I completely understand,however this video is about 50 minutes long so assumingly all points had to considered.

Ramihs,

I don't know if you're a christian buffoon pretending to be Muslim or not, but your nonsense is really becoming irritating.  It seems that all you want is to promote infidel materials here.  I don't mind you posting questions and have them answered.  And I don't mind you giving URLs for your questions.  But your nonsense is getting on my nerves.  The video that you gave is:

1-  Disproving the Quran through the Bible.  If it disagrees with the Bible, then it's false.

2-  Presenting nonsense that had been refuted centuries ago!

Dude seriously, either you get serious or get lost.  You are more than welcomed to post questions here that require answering, like the last one that I answered for you:

www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=2240.msg9836#msg9836

But don't just dump material and play games.  If every time a non-Muslim sneezes, even if he's 100 miles away from you, and your faith goes into acute influenza and it's immune system starts shutting down, then I don't think you are fit to be a Muslim.  Yes, we all go through doubts and have questions (THIS IS WHY I HAVE THIS HUGE WEBSITE, because I've been through these troubles myself), but to be sooooooooooo ridiculous about it certainly makes you look suspicious.  You remind me of Allah Almighty's Warning to us from the infidels' tricks:

Noble Verse 3:72 "A section of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) say:  Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers (Muslims), but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back (from Islam)."

You're acting like a kid.  Please grow up and be more serious.  Don't just come and dump garbage here.  This will not be tolerated.  From now on, you either ask specific questions or I will ban you.  You may post links and references with your questions and points.

I hope this is clear.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Please refute scientific error
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2016, 11:14:41 AM »
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bGMZmLqz--E

Even david wood claimed to prove it.


@Abdullah Ive read it. I completely understand,however this video is about 50 minutes long so assumingly all points had to considered.

Ramihs,

I don't know if you're a christian buffoon pretending to be Muslim or not, but your nonsense is really becoming irritating.  It seems that all you want is to promote infidel materials here.  I don't mind you posting questions and have them answered.  And I don't mind you giving URLs for your questions.  But your nonsense is getting on my nerves.  The video that you gave is:

1-  Disproving the Quran through the Bible.  If it disagrees with the Bible, then it's false.

2-  Presenting nonsense that had been refuted centuries ago!

Dude seriously, either you get serious or get lost.  You are more than welcomed to post questions here that require answering, like the last one that I answered for you:

www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=2240.msg9836#msg9836

But don't just dump material and play games.  If every time a non-Muslim sneezes, even if he's 100 miles away from you, and your faith goes into acute influenza and it's immune system starts shutting down, then I don't think you are fit to be a Muslim.  Yes, we all go through doubts and have questions (THIS IS WHY I HAVE THIS HUGE WEBSITE, because I've been through these troubles myself), but to be sooooooooooo ridiculous about it certainly makes you look suspicious.  You remind me of Allah Almighty's Warning to us from the infidels' tricks:

Noble Verse 3:72 "A section of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) say:  Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers (Muslims), but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back (from Islam)."

You're acting like a kid.  Please grow up and be more serious.  Don't just come and dump garbage here.  This will not be tolerated.  From now on, you either ask specific questions or I will ban you.  You may post links and references with your questions and points.

I hope this is clear.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah


 Osama, this place is like a hospital for people with weak faith. And you are the worst doctor over here. I was oncertainly like him before. Be patient and stop your nonsense.

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Re: Please refute scientific error
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2016, 11:16:24 AM »
 *once. You should really let us edit our comments.


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Re: Please refute scientific error
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2016, 11:47:53 AM »
@Osama No I'm not a christian I'm a Muslim living in kuwait. You are right on my extremely fragile faith. But it's mainly due to the fact that somethings aren't convincing and there's some pseudoscience involved.

I won't be prejudice as I'm sure someone in the past must have dumped things here before to make you look bad but I'm not one of them. لا اله الا الله. I just get afraid ok.

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Re: Please refute scientific error
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2016, 03:37:12 PM »
a kuwaiti muslim and asking an English site on internet ? ya ragel ? you should send a refutations and new ideas and interpretations to these people not just asking the same old critical questions that been refuted in Arabic sites long time ago..... so it depends! do you really pleases to go straight ? the most people that are weak on faith is those who doesn't have the 2nd half and who doesn't have a good wife and who doesn't want to follow quran and practical and who wants to join some satanist or atheist or other groups for benefits.. you guys are just a new introvert98 , just flooding the site and never used search.

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Re: Please refute scientific error
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2016, 04:21:06 PM »
@Khdrb You've made the wrong assumption. I'm Egyptian/Jordanian (Palestinian) but i just live here. My arabic is not as proper as I'd like it to be and contrary to what you said. My significant other is literally one of the main reasons i even double checked Islam.

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Re: Please refute scientific error
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2016, 04:36:04 PM »
EVERYONE,stop insulting him for asking questions,we all have rights,if he has doubts,let him get them cleared,he is free to leave Islam,if we all treat him like this,so it is better
we ANSWER his question instead of beating around the bush.
Now to Ramihs,

The problem is,as Osama said,he's using the bible to disprove the Qur'an but we all know the bibles' false,if you read it there are tons of contradictions
Like the earth before the sun in Genesis,
The Plant before the Sun,in Genesis,and many other contradictions.
Like Light on the first day then sun n the fourth day HOW can sun be on the fourth day if the Light is on the first day? it is highly un-scientific,so I advise you,
Not to listen to mr.David buffoon.

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Re: Please refute scientific error
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2016, 03:10:53 AM »
Ramihs97, if all this propaganda is getting to you, just take a break from the internet or  electronics, just avoid them for a couple days, go to the mosque, fast, do good, visit your parents, visit a sick person, there is so many good things you could be doing, and yet you choose to waste your time on useless and harmful materials such as that? If it is bothering you go speak to a sheikh about it, don't waste your time on websites that try to defame Islam.
Also, if you want us to help you, then specify what exactly is bothering you please.

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Re: Please refute scientific error
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2016, 03:15:58 AM »
Also advice for your waswasa: https://islamqa.info/en/6660 .

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Re: Please refute scientific error
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2016, 08:14:08 AM »
@Ramihs97 i don't understand! you are an Egyptian , Jordanian = Palestinian living in Kuwait ? 2+1 = 3 in 1 Arabic and who doesn't know Arabic very well? it's like how the trinitarian trying to explain trinity. are you an esoteric ?

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Re: Please refute scientific error
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2016, 08:24:46 AM »
@khdrb been in english schools all my life,never showed interested in arabic until recently. Make sense ?

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« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2016, 09:49:20 AM »
@khdrb been in english schools all my life,never showed interested in arabic until recently. Make sense ?

 You should stop lying. It is impossible for you to be an Arab in Kuwait and not learn Arabic. All of the English schools in Kuwait (which accept Arabs) teach Arabic.

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Re: Please refute scientific error
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2016, 10:54:24 AM »
@Abdullah I live in Jabriya. Shall i pm you my number as well ? I know it's unbelievable but i always took forgien language arabic which was all

رامي يلعب في الحديقة.  Easy stuff for a good grade.

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« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2016, 01:25:47 PM »
i know that some English school in Kuwait are teaching a false scriptures and something like Al-Furqan and these religion mixtures in one book in their classes and teaching total atheism or secularism. so it make sense except the trinity Egyptian/Jordanian = Palestinian in Kuwait :D

 lots of people are crooked and very corrupted there in Kuwait(i've been there in 2002-2005 for work in salmya near Al-Thuraya complex) even who went out of it and was in these schools stayed agnostic or went to atheism or Satanism, it's so good that a guy like you who've been in these schools are searching to find out if Islam and Quran are the real deal when most of who had this experience of yours doesn't even wanna explore, and where most of who believes are just a follower and doesn't understand the message and it's wisdom even if they are blindly believe and very sure of it.

so are you just making sure of it, then you will put it in the drawer of the mind for some black day?. or looking to understand it and know yourself? because it maybe can't fit everyone, but everyone can be a muslim and understand lots of things he really seeks for by Experience which leads to wisdom.

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« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2016, 01:32:29 PM »
@khdrb so far the "satanists" were just wanna be posers that lacked affection in their lives. I'm not too sure about this Furqan you mention.

As for Islam. I can't fully put my heart and soul in it if i don't believe 100%

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« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2016, 05:26:23 PM »
@Ramih97 who can fully put his heart in anything? if it's locked nothing can open it except Allah willing even if you made sure of it, but since you are searching i ask god that you are subliminally pleases to go straight or i don't think it will work. i ask Allah that one day you will know the wisdom of why Allah prohibited somethings like why adultery is prohibited! and know about one of the most important things which is the balance that Allah put, and experience these spiritual side knowledges. so be careful in that journey our brother of Deen.

(2-26)Muhammad Sarwar: "God does not hesitate to set forth parables of anything even a gnat. The believers know that it is the truth from their Lord, but those who deny the truth say, "What does God mean by such parables?" In fact, by such parables God misleads and guides many. However, He only misleads the evil doers"

81:27-29
" It is naught but a reminder for the nations, For him among you who pleases to go straight. And you do not please except that Allah please, the Lord of the worlds."

you can go ascending with god willing if you pleases. it seems that Allah willed you to see this and that ways (90-10)"And shown him the two highways?" and showing you how the straight path is and letting you to choose what you will. so you maybe can try to go ascending with his willing. i ask Allah to guide to the straight path .
{‏وَمَا تَشَاؤُونَ إِلَّا أَن يَشَاء اللَّهُ رَبُّ الْعَالَمِينَ‏}‏
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJWRqMTVAmQ

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Re: Please refute scientific error
« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2016, 08:12:33 PM »
Hey Rami, iv'e been where you were, probably even worst, i kept debating and researching anti islamic propaganda over and over again ''to refute'', after awhile i got my answers and refutations and got tired of it. Its a problem because its something that will always make you think, you will never find an answer to it if you keep going and will stay depressed/obsessed

When i took a break from debating for 2-3 months, my imaan went 100x higher and i was so relaxed. It's not escaping from the truth, but its the same as a person who watches gore videos. At first he gets shocked, but then he gets used to it (thats when his soul has become black). Dont end up like that. Even right now im here on this site cause the obsession is back, but im trying to calm it down and keep my imaan strong. Imam Ali said '' I have never won a debate against an idiot''

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Re: Please refute scientific error
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2016, 09:31:26 PM »
Yo,Ramihs Royal is right,Alhamdulillah I was born in a family that clarifies all my doubts,
but as for you this is a good remedy if you're going out of your faith,
Stand at night for Tahajjud and Ask Allah for truth,ask him for Guidance
and randomly open a Qur'anic page and see it,sometimes Allah has a message of Guidance for you,
and you should pray your 5 prayers,and if none of that works,the best decision is to LEARN,because "'ilm"(Knowledge) is a important key in Islam,
If you wanna join Islam you need to have enough "Ilm"(Knowledge) of Islam.

 

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