Author Topic: COMPULSION IN ISLAM IMPOSED ON CHRISTIANS/MUHAMMAD KILLED INNOCENT PEOPLE  (Read 3893 times)

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Offline Butzdenn

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Islam never initiate wars. However soldiers of Christianity were the ones that spread wars worldwide.

There is no compulsion in Islam. In fact Islam declared that you can choose your lifestyle and Muslims will be with their lifestyle.

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For you is your religion, and for me is my religion 109:6

Offline Syedsamad

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Do u even have a logic of a 10 year old kid
The Hadith you mentioned did prophet Muhammad ordered it ?

Offline AMuslimDude213

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Have you read the whole Hadith? It was a man,the son of a slave woman who got too mad that the women was insulting the Prophet SAW,so he killed her,and The Prophet SAW disapproved of killing her,

Maybe you should analyze the text more as it said "when the news reach the Messenger of Allah SAW"

Offline adilriaz123

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Do u not see how ur hatred for Muslims is destroying u. Is that what Christianity teaches u to do? Hate. Please man think clearly about the path u taken, u will not get anything in life but become consumed with hatred and become a loser in here after. Don't follow for the traps of Satan. U think ur doing good, but ur not. Ur hatred doesn't effect Islam. Zionist and neo cons did 9/11 to create hatred towards Islam. They planned against God and God almighty repaid them for their injustice, because of 9/11 ppl started to do alot of research on Islam and the population jped from 1.6billion to 2.08 billion. Only the true religion as God mentioned in Quran(3:19) can do such a thing.

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Muhammad approved of the murder bec he said no payment is due to the woman's heir, which is the law when, one accidentally killed another, thus approving it as legitimate!

Offline AMuslimDude213

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He disapproved of the murder,he said there is no Blood money for it, and moreover Muhammad SAW spoke to the killer with a very angered tone,as if he disapproved.

Offline AMuslimDude213

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The Surah you quoted,One cannot be that dumb, Surah Al Ahzab is speaking about the liars in Madinah stirring hatred against Muslims to cause a war with them,back then it was a huge problem,Quraysh's missionaries were all over Arabia to intice people and make them cause war with Muslims,by hypocrites it meant Ex Muslims who used to leave Islam in the night to attack the Prophet SAW and informed the Quraysh of Muhammad SAW being in Medina,so such people had to be killed since they were trying to force Quraysh to kill Muslims. And they did, they've persecuted for over 13 years, these Qurayshites were so evil,a woman among them,Hind was a cannibal and she ate a relative of Muhammad SAW after killing him,the relatives name was Hamza R.Z.

Offline Butzdenn

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Giving of blood money is for the guilty but Muhammad requiring no blood money means not guilty thus approving it as legal!

Offline Syedsamad

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By this kid like logic Christianity was created 😂😂😂 ^^^

Offline AMuslimDude213

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Not really,Blood money is for the people Muhammad SAW approved of killing,like a government giving money for war,but Muhammad SAW didn't give money for it,hence why it was forbade and disapproved of.

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Heh! THOSE WHO SPREAD FALSE NEWS ARE THOSE POETS/SATIRISTS MUHAMMAD KILLED, as example enciting people, towards disbelief and hate, and ththat includes, Christians practicing faith by calling Allah "_demonic" through persistent preaching!
The mere fact that Islam prohibits christianity in Medina, is compulsion in religion as you use force against us to practice religion in Medina!
BLOOD MONEY IS FOR THE HEIRS OF THOSE ACCIDENTALLY KILLED, but intentional murder is rewarded with murder thus muhammad preventing blood money suggests the killing was not accident snd bec he did not punish him with murder implies, the killing is valid!

Offline Albarra

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Once again Butzdenn, we already responded to your stupid questions, but you still ignore us because you feel stupid.

For instance, you claim that Muslim should kill the pagans whatever they find them, but why Muhammad (phub) condemned killing pagan women and children during a war?

Besides, why don't you respond to me directly? Are you a coward?

Offline Butzdenn

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Respond to you directly? How? And about what?

Offline Albarra

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Butzdenn, how old are you? 8?

You still ignore my simple question. Why Did Muhammad (SAWS) condemn killing pagan women and children?

We already refuted your stupid argument about killing pagans.
Click the link below.
http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,918.msg2913.html#msg2913


Also, you gave the link that you want me to refute it, but I don't want to click on this link because URL address  is strange. Might be a virus or malware. Just tell me a title of a blog and website name.
 

Again, Christianity does not support human rights such as gay rights, bikini, abortion, free speech, and other unlawful sins.
If Christians support free speech, then why blasphemy is forbidden?
In Ireland, for example, whoever insults the God or holy person must pay up to 25,000 euros.


Women weren't be allowed to vote in the United States until 1919. Men earn more salaries than women in the country.
In fact,, all U.S. presidents are male, no woman.
In UK, women could not have their own properties until 1860s.

The truth about women in the Bible:
https://discover-the-truth.com/2013/04/30/women-in-christianity/
 


Remember, Jesus did not abolish the Old Law, but to fulfil instead.


17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:17-20)

Moses was a brutal killer, but you don't care about that. Double Standard!


If you want to challenge Osama, you have to challenge me first.

Albarra

Offline Butzdenn

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I assure you, links I posted are mine. These are WordPress links, customary as short links and not the usual link formats.
RIGHTS are not acts but the privilege to do things, thus abortion etc is not a right but the act as manifestation of your right!
8? Who's 8?
FREE SPEECH is supported by us, meaning, the right to do it, not the act of blasphemy.
JESUS SAID, LET THEM BE, AND IF THE BLIND LEADS THE BLIND BOTH WILL FALL...etc
but we have to warn them as Paul teach, COME OUT FROM THEM!

you don't know how to distinguish a right and an action!
Jesus abolished the law such as the eye for an eye tooth for tooth as explicit in matt 5:38-39 therefore your interpretation is flawed. He disrespects sabbath. He disrespects the war doctrines by saying, LOVE YOUR ENEMIES. I could show you tons of abrogated laws which your illiterate mind could grasp nothing but an out of context concept of matt5:17!

First time to hear?

Killing pagans, if you comprehend the conversation was not intended to go against yours, it was used in accordance to how the other impose a bible verse as stand alone, thus I used his method against him!

Ok. If you wish to be a stepping stone, let's do arguments openly not through links.
Agree?

Offline Albarra

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Agree.


No, Jesus never said that he would abolish the old law. Show your evidence.

As I said, Matt 5:17 contradicts your claim.

You said that Matt 5:38-39 abolished the old law. Really?

Let's read it.

38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth." 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. (math 5:38-39)

I don't get it. These verses talk about face, not law.
 

Love your enemies? Okay, but do you love Adolf Hitler?


Who is enemies? Anti-Christ? Would they go to heaven?

I'm sorry, but it makes no sense.

Actually, it is a trick!!
When Jesus come to earth, he would pull his sword from his mouth and slaughter his enemies.

Basically, he deceives his enemies.


Then I said, “Alas, Sovereign Lord! How completely you have deceived this people and Jerusalem by saying, ‘You will have peace,’ when the sword is at our throats!” (Jeremiah 4:10)



Indeed, God ordered Moses, David, Samuel, Joshua, and Elisha to kill people.

Even Christian crusaders slaughtered tens of thousands of innocent Jews in Israel. Just research.

Love enemies?

The American military dropped nuclear bombs on 2 Japanese cities that killed almost 200,000 people.


Again, Christianity does not support free speech because people have no rights to insult God under blasphemy's law.

United States, however, abolished blasphemy because they follow the secular constitution.

Do you know what the difference between secularism and Christianity?

Again, you still ignore my simple question about killing pagans. Why did Muhammad (SAWS) condemn killing pagan's women and children?

Offline Albarra

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Butzdenn,
By the way, where are you from? Just wondering.
Your name is unusual.


Offline Butzdenn

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LOVE YOUR ENEMIES ABROGATES KILLING ENEMIES!

ABROGATION!
MATT5:38-39 DO NOT RESIST/OPPOSE EVIL (A PERSON OR A CRIME IN THE CONTEXT OF EYE FOR EYE)

If you kill a criminal you're opposing evil!
IN THE CONTEXT OF EYE FOR EYE!!!!

an abrogation!
Jesus works/heals in a sabbath against the law.

Matt 5:17 having these abrogation implies not destroying the law in different context.
Luke16:16 say the law is until john!
Therefore renders matt 5:17 differently.
What is the right context?
LUKE24:44 says, all things jesus must fulfill and not destroy written in the bible, CONCERNING HIM
OR
ABOUT HIM PERSONALLY!

Offline AMuslimDude213

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So apparently Butzdenn is agreeing they have lost early Christian practices and is admitting Paul unfollowed and disobeyed Jesus and abolished the law,when Jesus said to follow it,What does this mean about Paul? Hmmm,definetly doesn't seem like a true apostle.

 

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