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satan plagiarized
« on: August 25, 2017, 12:12:55 PM »
along with my previous post of plagiarizing i will include this one if you could answer

the plagiarizing of the stary of satan not prostrating to adam, i wont quote passages as i think we all know this story, but it is told in quran 7:11-18, 15:28-35, quran 17:62, Qur'an 38:71-85

it seems as if it is plagiarized from multiple sources

“And with a heavy sigh, the devil spake: ‘O Adam! all my hostility, envy, and sorrow is for thee, since it is for thee that I have been expelled from my glory, which I possessed in the heavens in the midst of the angels and for thee was I cast out in the earth.’ Adam answered, ‘What dost thou tell me? What have I done to thee or what is my fault against thee? Seeing that thou hast received no harm or injury from us, why dost thou pursue us?’
“The devil replied, ‘Adam, what dost thou tell me? It is for thy sake that I have been hurled from that place. When thou wast formed, I was hurled out of the presence of God and banished from the company of angels. When God blew into thee the breath of life and thy face and likeness was made in the image of God, Michael also brought thee and made (us) worship thee in the sight of God; and God the Lord spake: “Here is Adam. I have made him in our image and likeness.”

“‘And Michael went out and called all the angels saying: “Worship the image of God as the Lord hath commanded.”

“‘And Michael himself worshipped first; then he called me and said: “Worship the image of God the Lord.” And I answered, “I have no (need) to worship Adam.” And since Michael kept urging me to worship, I said to him, “Why dost thou urge me? I will not worship an inferior and younger being (than I). I am his senior in the Creation, before he was made was I already made. It is his duty to worship me.”

“‘When the angels, who were under me, heard this, they refused to worship him. And Michael saith, “Worship the image of God, but if thou wilt not worship him, the Lord God will be wroth with thee.” And I said, “If He be wroth with me, I will set my seat above the stars of heaven and will be like the Highest.”

“‘And God the Lord was wroth with me and banished me and my angels from our glory; and on thy account were we expelled from our abodes into this world and hurled n the earth. And straightway we were overcome with grief, since we had been spoiled of so great glory. And we were grieved when we saw thee in such joy and luxury. And with guile I cheated thy wife and caused thee to be expelled through her (doing) from thy joy and luxury, as I have been driven out of my glory.’

“When Adam heard the devil say this, he cried out and wept and spake: ‘O Lord my God, my life is in thy hands. Banish this Adversary far from me, who seeketh to destroy my soul, and give me his glory which he himself hath lost.’ And at that moment, the devil vanished before him. But Adam endured in his penance, standing for forty days (on end) in the water of Jordan.”
 source: Life of Adam and Eve


sixth century work: “When the angels saw his splendid appearance, they were moved by the fairness of his aspect. And God gave him there the dominion over all creatures, and all the wild beasts and the cattle and the birds, and they came before Adam and he gave them names, and they bowed their heads before him and worshipped him, and all their natures worshipped and served him. And the angels and powers heard the voice of God, who said to him, ‘O Adam, behold I have made thee king, priest, prophet, lord, head and leader of all creatures and they serve thee and are thine. And I have given thee dominion over all I have created.’ And when the angels heard this word, they all bent their knees and worshipped him. “And when the head of the lower order saw that greatness had been given to Adam, he envied him thenceforth, refused to worship him and said to his powers: ‘Worship him not and praise him not with the angels. It befits him to worship me, not me to worship dust, formed out of a grain of dust.’ Such things the rebel had uttered and was disobedient and by his own free will became separated from God. And he was felled and he fell, he and his whole band. On the sixth day in the second hour, he fell from heaven, and they were stripped of the robes of their glory, and his name was called Satana, because he had turned away from God, and Sheda, because he had been cast down, and Daiva, because he had lost the robe of his glory. And look, from that same day and until today, he and all his armies are stripped and naked and ugly to look on. And after Satan had been cast from Heaven, Adam was exalted so that he ascended to Paradise.”

gospel of bartholomew 4:51-55, here satan even says that he is made from fire: 51 And Bartholomew raised up Satan and said unto him: Go unto thy place, with thine angels, but the Lord hath mercy upon all his world. (50, 51, again enormously amplified in lat. 2. Satan complains that he has been tricked into telling his secrets before the time. The interpolation is to some extent dated by this sentence: ' Simon Magus and Zaroes and Arfaxir and Jannes and Mambres are my brothers.' Zaroes and Arfaxatare wizards who figure in the Latin Acts of Matthew and of Simon and Jude (see below).

52 But the devil said: Suffer me, and I will tell thee how I was cast down into this place and how the Lord did make man.

53 I was going to and fro in the world, and God said unto Michael: Bring me a clod from the four corners of the earth, and water out of the four rivers of paradise. And when Michael brought them God formed Adam in the regions of the east, and shaped the clod which was shapeless, and stretched sinews and veins upon it and established it with Joints; and he worshipped him, himself for his own sake first, because he was the image of God, therefore he worshipped him.

54 And when I came from the ends of the earth Michael said: Worship thou the image of God, which he hath made according to his likeness. But I said: I am fire of fire, I was the first angel formed, and shall worship clay and matter?

how do we respond to his plagiarized story in the quran and how do we refute it,

thanks jazakallah khair



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Re: satan plagiarized
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2017, 01:07:52 PM »
Any similarity between the Glorious Quran and a previous text does not translate to plagiarism.  It simply means that the Glorious Quran is either confirming the account or correcting it.

To the reader, please visit the following links to see the Glorious Quran's overwhelming Scientific and Numerical Miracles:

www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links
www.answering-christianity.com/100_percent_guarantee_that_quran_is_divine.htm


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Re: satan plagiarized
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2017, 01:13:26 PM »
of course you could say well then it affirms a story, but who in the past before the quran would know that this happened with adam and satan, the quran is the only holy book from god claiming it and then you have fables which come before it saying the same thing. Which of the old fab;es or tales does the quran deny? also with stories like the people of the cave they seem highly the same like the seven sleepers of ephesus are we really saying those peple mentioned earlier than god what happened etc. etc. on this site all of the so called plagiarisms are put, and i still havent found refutations of them which bothers me, <infidel link removed>
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Re: satan plagiarized
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2017, 01:22:56 PM »
That's why I gave you the Scientific and Numerical Miracles of the Holy Quran.  A claim would be 100% accurate and true simply because the Glorious Quran says so.  This is because It is Allah Almighty's Pure and Divine Holy Word.

1-  Moses, peace be upon him, turned a wooden stick into a live snake.  This is True because the Quran says so.

2-  Moses split the sea in half by striking with his stick.  This is True because the Quran says so.

3-  The story of Adam and satan is True, because the Quran says so.

4-  The people of the cave slept for 100s of years is True, because the Quran says so.  There is even a Numerical Miracle in this story:

www.answering-christianity.com/lunar_calendar_miracle.htm

Allah Almighty's Words are True and Divine and Holy. 



Your requested refutation:

Here is the long and thorough and detailed refutation to all of the anti-Islamic claims that are bothering you:

What disagrees with the Glorious Quran belongs to the garbage!

Hope that wasn't too long and boring for you.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

 

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