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« on: October 09, 2012, 11:57:02 AM »
salamualakum is there any website tht has refuted to ENTIRE on wikislam?

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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2012, 01:18:52 PM »
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salamualakum is there any website tht has refuted to ENTIRE on wikislam?

http://www.answering-christianity.com has well over 1,000 direct rebuttals to articles, and thousands of articles in general.  We've covered almost every single topic imaginable.  Give me the worst argument that you see presented in that website, and I'll demonstrate to you how it is easily refuted, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing.

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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2012, 04:58:35 AM »
Alaikomassalam Muzi123


I think most of the input of wiki Islam was countered (in answering christianity site and other sites) ,yet I found out that some of  it ,still to be refuted ....  I have selected some articles from wikiislam that has some new arguments ,that seem not to be addressed before .... and Inshallah intend to counter it with academic objective approache in future posts when I have time inshallah.....

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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2012, 09:56:18 AM »
thank u brothers but i would like this  page 2 b refuted http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/Category:Miracles some of the catagorys like the mosques surving tsunami standing mosques theres no doubt that is a miracle of allah n some others like cats eye nebula in the quran  google earth proves islam  mathematical miracles baby born with verses of quran  animals marked by allah 

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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2012, 05:31:58 PM »
Brother Muzi123,

I removed your last post because the link you gave contained pornographic pictures.  Please be careful and thoughtful next time.  And there was nothing to refute in that link.  Some Muslims made a big deal out of some trees looking like a Muslim Praying, and the infidels of the link that you gave countered that by giving pictures of trees, perhaps carved, that looked like sexual acts.

I am not for and was never for silly pictures to prove Islam.  We have the Glorious Quran to silence the infidels.  Not silly pictures that they themselves might've been doctored or the trees had been carved.  Either way, this approach is silly and empty.

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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2012, 05:34:44 AM »

I am not for and was never for silly pictures to prove Islam.  We have the Glorious Quran to silence the infidels.  Not silly pictures that they themselves might've been doctored or the trees had been carved.  Either way, this approach is silly and empty.


Exactly !


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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2012, 11:09:26 AM »
ok true i agree with u but actually once i was giving dawa to a non muslim he didnt accept all this science in quran he didnt understand it so i showed him miracle videos  like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Bq8aw35UMk n straight away he converted because more than 15 mosques survived the tsunami n he was shocked so tht was my way what i did n other videos like the russian baby born with verses of quran because there was no explanation for it doctors didnt no anything what it was n it disappears n appears on friday

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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2012, 04:29:19 PM »
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ok true i agree with u but actually once i was giving dawa to a non muslim he didnt accept all this science in quran he didnt understand it so i showed him miracle videos  like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Bq8aw35UMk n straight away he converted because more than 15 mosques survived the tsunami n he was shocked so tht was my way what i did n other videos like the russian baby born with verses of quran because there was no explanation for it doctors didnt no anything what it was n it disappears n appears on friday

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

May Allah Almighty bless you for your efforts for converting the brother into Islam.  I'd like to advise you and advise all Muslims that we do not want "fast food Muslims" embracing Islam.  Those people do far more harm than good to our community, especially in the non-Muslim countries where we are the extreme minority and are very vanurable.  If Allah Almighty wants someone to embrace Islam, then that person will embrace Islam even if all of the Muslims treat him badly and all of the non-Muslims treat him/her good.  And the opposite is also true.  Of course, we must always follow Allah Almighty's Commands regarding Islamic Propagation:

"Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance.  (The Noble Quran, 16:125)"

And never deceive or lie to people about Islam:

"And cover not Truth with falsehood, nor conceal the Truth when ye know (what it is).   (The Noble Quran, 2:42)"

However, with that you should also challenge the so-called "New Muslims".  Test them and make sure that they're geniune and not careless ones who are test-driving Islam.  We are also commanded to do so according to the Glorious Quran:

"O believers, when believing women come to you as emigrants, test them. God knows very well their belief. Then, if you know them to be believers, return them not to the unbelievers. They are not permitted to the unbelievers, nor are the unbelievers permitted to them. Give the unbelievers what they have expended; and there is no fault in you to marry them when you have given them their wages. Do not hold fast to the ties of unbelieving women, and ask what you have expended, and let them ask what they have expended. That is God's judgment; He judges between you; and God is All-knowing, All-wise.  (The Noble Quran, 60:10)"

Don't be afraid to test the new Muslims.  If they turn away from Islam, then they should not have entered it from the beginning.  And it would certainly be their loss.  I say it again, the last thing we want is careless fast food ones embracing Islam.  We're not salesmen, and nor is Islam a vehicle that any "customer" can test drive.

Personally, I've had people take the shahaada (bear the two witnesses) by me via emails, walhamdulillah (all thanks are due to Allah).  I've never once even created a section on my website for new converts to Islam, nor posted their witnesses.  The reason for this is I didn't want to

1.  Take advantage of them.
2.  Make them think that the sun will rise and set upon them from now on.


When you embrace Islam, it's an honor for YOU, not Islam, for embracing this Glorious and Holy and Divine Religion.  This is the straight forward, yet polite, attitude that we should carry when dealing with new converts.  We do it in frankness, but with politeness and open heart at the same time.  All good Muslims are my dear and beloved brothers and sisters in Islam.

I hope this helps, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: wikiislam
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2012, 04:50:06 PM »
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ok true i agree with u but actually once i was giving dawa to a non muslim he didnt accept all this science in quran he didnt understand

On the top of www.answering-christianity.com 's main page, there is a link called "I am a Muslim; how can I help my Christian friend become a Muslim?" (http://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm).

This article will help you how to systematically convert non-Muslims to Islam, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing) dear brother.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2012, 03:47:07 PM »
I thnk you should have a section that refutes wikiislam exclusively, just as you have an entire sections on answering islam and ali sina.

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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2012, 12:58:09 PM »
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I thnk you should have a section that refutes wikiislam exclusively, just as you have an entire sections on answering islam and ali sina.

As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

Let me insha'Allah finish my projects that I am working on regarding the Scientific Miracles in the Glorious Quran, and I promise you that I will dedicate the time to create a whole new section for http://www.wikislam.net.  I looked several times into their website, and their arguments varry between ridiculous to dumb.  One of their main styles of attacking the Glorious Quran is saying that ancient books contained "Scientific statements in them that are accurate today."  Here are two points to keep in mind regarding such argument:

1-  As Muslims, we do not deny that ancient Divine Revelations existed.  Therefore, these could be remnants of Old Divine Revelations from GOD Almighty that the pagans kept.

2-  Much of these so-called "ancient scientific claims" were mistranslated, or re-translated into something else.  An example for this is the earth's rotation around the sun argument.  They used the "grape and vine" verse and re-translated it.

The Glorious Quran, on the other hand, is clear.  I openly challenge anyone to refute the Glorious Quran's Scientific Claims that I have at: http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links.  I also posed an open challenge regarding Earth and Space in the Glorious Quran at:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,541.msg1100.html#msg1100

To all skeptics, show me one confirmed scientific fact in space or in any Scientific field that is in contradiction with the Glorious Quran.  I openly challenge anyone to meet this challenge.

As to earth in the Glorious Quran, please visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/egg-shaped_earth.htm, and go to Main Section #2, Sub-Section (A).  In there, you'll find how the Glorious Quran DECLARES the earth to be:

1-  Spherical.
2-  Suspended in Space.
3-  Rotating around itself. (emphasize more on dahaha and its derivatives)
4-  Is traveling in Space.
5-  All celestial bodies are swimming each in an orbit, and all celestial bodies are YAA'ROJOON in space.


Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: wikiislam
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2012, 06:13:17 PM »
let me begin, they claim that the Tabari version is the true version, and that the current more used, no violent version has no primary source, expecially when it come to the lines "an arab is not superior than a non arab... except in piety".
the primary source is that of Ahmed bin Hanbal in his Musnad.

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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2012, 02:01:02 PM »
who is ali sina ? all i heard he is the author of faithfreedom, is faithfreedom and wikislam the same? has the entire of faithfreedom been refuted  has ali sina had any debates with muslims?

 

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