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Offline FARHAN_UDDIN

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ALLEGATION RAISED BY BROTHER TANVEER
« on: June 15, 2013, 02:05:35 PM »
Brother please answer the allegation raised by brother TANVEER. It's confusing me. Following is the Allegation.


Apparently some people purposefully twist ayahs to make it look like a miracle when actually its purely figurative. The ayah on mountains being pegs is apparently a supposed miracle but actually meant to be figurative. I dunno, i dont really have that much knowledge on this

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Re: ALLEGATION RAISED BY BROTHER TANVEER
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2013, 03:21:20 PM »
PLEASE SOMEBODY HELP I AM NOW CONFUSED.Pleaes someone answer the allegation

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Re: ALLEGATION RAISED BY BROTHER TANVEER
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2013, 07:55:47 PM »
Mountains as pegs:

1.) Figurative sense: Sure
2.) Literal sense: Sure as well. Mountains have roots like pegs and they resemble pegs.

It can work both ways brother.

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Re: ALLEGATION RAISED BY BROTHER TANVEER
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2013, 06:01:55 PM »
Mountains as pegs:

1.) Figurative sense: Sure
2.) Literal sense: Sure as well. Mountains have roots like pegs and they resemble pegs.

It can work both ways brother.
That's not how I meant it Brother. I came across some people that said that just like pegs hold clothes on a clothes line the mountains hold the earths crust to the earth but I have found no scientific writings on this so I simply concluded as you have that this is describing the appearance of mountains.

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Re: ALLEGATION RAISED BY BROTHER TANVEER
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2013, 07:29:01 PM »
That's not how I meant it Brother. I came across some people that said that just like pegs hold clothes on a clothes line the mountains hold the earths crust to the earth but I have found no scientific writings on this so I simply concluded as you have that this is describing the appearance of mountains.
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The mountains resemble pegs, they have deep roots. And those roots go beneath different layers of the Earth (pegs go beneath different layers of wood when put in them). Think about it for a second, 2 plates collide with each other. When they collide, they slow down and stabilize and earthquakes stop.

Allah Almighty said: "Have We not made the earth as a bed, and the mountains as pegs?  (The Noble Quran, 78:6-7)"
He the Almighty also said: "And He has set firm mountains in the earth so it would not shift with you....(The Noble Quran, 16:15)",---So here it is saying that the mountain's function is so that we don't shake with the earth


The Qur'an draws attention to a very important geological function of mountains:

 We placed firmly embedded mountains on the earth, so it would not move under them… (Verse: 21:31)

  … [He] cast firmly embedded mountains on the earth so that it would not move under you… (Qur'an, 31:10)



Take a look at this picture and tell me what you think would happen if the mountain root wasn't there. How well would the Earth's cruse move under the mantle if the mountain wasn't there? Would the earth have an easier time moving if it wasn't for the root (think like a physicist)

Also take a look at this link: http://www.livescience.com/18747-colliding-continents-slow.html


Let me just say one thing that will crystallize it all:

1.) Mountains are as a result of tectonic plate movement
2.) When 2 plates move towards each other, the plates slow down and stabilize (as the laws of physics states and the article above say)
3.) Since the plates slow down and stabilize, the earth land is shifting/moving less. Just remember the word for Earth quake in the Quran is 'zalzala', that word was not used in the verse.

So:
-Mountains resemble pegs
-when two plates collide forming a mountain they stabolize



Mountains are not as studied as they should be in science, but we see no contradiction in the verses. The verses were meant to be both figurative and literal.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2013, 07:50:34 PM by mclinkin94 »

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Re: ALLEGATION RAISED BY BROTHER TANVEER
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2013, 02:16:50 AM »
Thanks for the explanation brother. It was the best yet. :)

 

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