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Re: Allah Not In A Place
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2021, 04:50:14 AM »
Pharaoh existed thousands of years before Islam.  What does Islam have to do with this?  Ancient corrupt writings, which the Bible is marred with, contain ample lies.  The Quran is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty.  Visit the following links to see the ample Noble Verses that speak about the Glorious Quran's Scientific Miracles in geology and astronomy:

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https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#astronomy
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« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2021, 07:56:19 AM »
May Allah reward you. Yes, like the tower reaching GOD in the Bible, Pharaoh thought the same because they both were blaspheming. And man probably looks up at GOD is in the sky because He is high in power, not that he is actually in the sky.

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« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2021, 01:42:54 PM »
Sorry but now I have another question. So how about the miraaj? The prophet went up to the Heavens and finally saw GOD? He talked with Him and stuff? So this also sounds like Allah's in the Heavens?

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« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2021, 11:37:19 AM »
Allah Almighty is everywhere.  Heaven is one of His creations.  He can talk to any Prophet or Angel in Heaven.  In Heaven, He will speak to any and all of the inhabitants of Heaven as He spoke with Moses, peace be upon him.  No one will ever see GOD Almighty, but we can still speak with Him.

There is a scientific miracle in Prophet Muhammad's journey to Heaven:

https://answering-christianity.com/earth.htm#ozone_layer_green_carpet


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« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2021, 07:05:09 PM »
Ok, I have 2 questions. I believe that this Verse (6:103) on not seeing Allah is clear:

No vision can encompass Him, but He encompasses all vision. For He is the Most Subtle, All-Aware.

(Question 1)However, Surah Qiyamah Verse 23 says that the good people in the day of Judgement will be"looking at their Lord. " What does this mean? Does it mean that their pure hearts will create an image of the Lord and that the eyes can't see the Lord? This is because the Surah doesn't mention the bad people looking at their Lord.

(Question 2)Also, in Surah A'araf Verse 143 it says that Allah appeared on Mount Sinai:

When Moses came at the appointed time and his Lord spoke to him, he asked, “My Lord! Reveal Yourself to me so I may see You.” Allah answered, “You cannot see Me! But look at the mountain. If it remains firm in its place, only then will you see Me.” When his Lord appeared to the mountain, He levelled it to dust and Moses collapsed unconscious. When he recovered, he cried, “Glory be to You! I turn to You in repentance and I am the first of the believers.”
 


Though I definitely believe that it is not for Man to see Allah, what happened with this Verse? How did Allah appear on the mountain? Even though Moses didn't see Him because he fainted, he would have seen Him if he was still conscious. No? Also I thought Allah is not physical. But doesn't this Verse seem to suggest otherwise?

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« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2021, 07:26:32 PM »
I hope I'm not being obnoxious but also the hafiths say that the greatest blessing of the people in Heaven will be to see Allah. Does this mean (as I said before), the heart will create an image of Allah or are these hadiths fabricated?

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Re: Allah Not In A Place
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2021, 07:58:10 AM »
I read the Hadiths about this topic.  There is not a single Hadith that says anyone will see Allah Almighty.  We will only see Allah Almighty's Light.

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« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2021, 08:24:30 AM »
Does Allah literally have light? But is not light a creation? So how can it be applied to the Creator? Also that means that Allah is physical?

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« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2021, 09:10:27 AM »
Tafsir ibn Kathir of 7:143 says, "...(And when his Lord appeared to the mountain,) Only the extent of the little finger appeared from Him...(He made it collapse) as dust;" Ibn Kathir says that the Prophet said that Allah showed His Finger?
How can Allah have fingers?

Now I have 2 questions:

So question 1 is how can Allah have fingers (saying that Tafsir ibn Kathir is right)? That means Allah resembles His creation according to Ibn Kathir? (Anthropomorphism?)

Question 2 is that does Allah literally have light? But light is a creation? This makes it sound like Allah is physical, no?

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« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2021, 12:33:46 PM »
No one can describe Allah Almighty.  Allah Almighty Face, Hands, Finger, Leg, Feet are all earthly descriptions to bring the point to us.  But Allah Almighty is without Divine Description and there is none like unto Him:

[112:004]  And there is none like unto Him.


The Light of Allah Almighty in Heaven and the Universe can not be described either.  Nothing about Allah Almighty can be described.

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« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2021, 12:36:02 PM »
So tafsir ibn Kathir was wrong right? He said that Allah showed His pinky when the pinky is just an earthly description and not literal?

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« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2021, 12:51:48 PM »
My last question. Before the Universe was created, nothing existed except Allah. Since light is a creation, it didnt exist. So how would Allah have light then?

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« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2021, 12:51:57 PM »
Allah Almighty can show any form to any creation.  If He decided to show the mountain a finger-like object that caused it to immediately collapse, then so be it.  No one can describe Allah Almigthy.

I don't know where Ibn Kathir got the "finger" part from, but be as it may, the tafsir would not be wrong if that indeed happened.  But Allah Almighty is LIMITLESS and INFINITE.  We have no clue what His Divine Realm is like.  No one can describe Him.


So how do you know the Quran is from Him?

Look at the Glorious Quran's Numerical and Scientific Miracles which the Almighty promised to reveal to all of mankind to thoroughly prove to them that the Glorious Quran is from Him:

www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links


Do not derail yourself into too many questions that attempt to describe Allah Almighty.  You can't with your human logic even answer things like;

-  Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
-  How could you when you were a microscopic being grow to thousands of times bigger in size today?


Logically these things don't make sense.  Yet, they're materialized here on earth.

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Re: Allah Not In A Place
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2021, 12:57:16 PM »
Sorry im not sure if you saw my last question but it was: My last question. Before the Universe was created, nothing existed except Allah. Since light is a creation, it didnt exist. So how would Allah have light then?

After this i will stop asking questions about Him.

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Re: Allah Not In A Place
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2021, 01:00:34 PM »
The Light of Allah Almighty is limitless and infinite.  No human can describe Allah Almighty's Light.  It is one of His Divine Attributes (Al-Nur).  Allah Almighty talked to us in the Glorious Quran with our earthly vocabularies to make things understandable for us.

So how do we know then that Allah Almighty is real and not a fictional being?  Again, visit the link above about the Glorious Quran's STUNNING Divine Prophecies, and Numerical and Scientific Miracles.

 

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