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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Atheists/Christians and Hypocrisy.
« on: December 22, 2017, 04:02:41 AM »
Many of you might have done some reading on "draw Muhammad" day that Some Americans sometimes hold, and seeing some of the depictions really offended Muslims,because they were rather very very Incoherent and rude depictions,but however if we flip it back,for example,if we draw a Cartoon against Americans,or draw something of the like against the founding of America,which many have,and now are in hiding due to death threat and hate messages and even personal questions being asked to them, They get extremely offended if we say negative about America and start to insult you over that,and when we draw an Anti-Black or Anti-Jewish imagery they start to get extremely offended by that too,but when they depict Muslims and Muhammad SAW,they expect us to not give a humane reaction and an angry reaction.

This is complete hypocrisy among Non Muslim Americans in general.

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I've seen people nowadays deny hadith altogether and only accept the Quran,so I'll refute them one by one,and also their claims.
So first let me refute them from their roots,that Muhammad SAW is not needed for the Quran.
First of all Muhammad SAW is VERY important according to the Quran itself,infact he is the main model for the Muslims.
According to Surah al Sajda,verse 21
"There has certainly been for you in the Messenger of Allah an excellent pattern for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the Last Day and [who] remembers Allah often."
This pattern that the Quran mentions is not to be found in the Quran,but in the hadith,then my argument of interpretation comes,which the Quranist can never escape,and it destroys the Quranist from his roots
"And We revealed to you [O Muhammad] the message [Qur’an] that you may make clear to the people what was sent down to them and that they might give thought."[Qur’an 16:44]
This says the Prophet SAW himself was COMMANDED to interpret the Quran,the Interpretation is not in the Quran,but the hadith,nowhere else will you find it,except in the hadith
Muhammad SAW also has been made for Muslims a Judge,as seen in this verse
"But no, by your Lord, they will not [truly] believe until they make you, [O Muhammad], judge concerning that over which they dispute among themselves and then find within themselves no discomfort from what you have judged and submit in [full, willing] submission." [Qur’an 4:65]
So nor is Muhammad SAWs judgement found in the Quran,but in the hadith,now to my other 3 arguments before I get to refuting claims.
My argument is that,the Quran never tells you you can't have sex with a five year old,only hadith forbids that,the Quran tells you beat your wife,but the Hadith explains and says not to beat your wife very harshly,but very lightly.
Infact the Quran supports the hadith,and says there was a revelation,a revelation NOT INSIDE the Quran,infact outside the Quran,this outside revelation is mentioned in Surah an najm
Your companion [Muhammad] has not strayed, nor has he erred,"(53:2)
"Nor does he speak from [his own] inclination."(53:3)
"It is not but a revelation revealed,"(53:4)
"Taught to him by one intense in strength -"(53:5)
"One of soundness. And he rose to [his] true form"(53:6)
This whole description of the revelation,fits with the hadith.
And my last one is that the Prophet SAWs commandments are important,and the commandments arent in the Quran,but the hadith
“And let those who oppose the Messenger's (Muhammad (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him)) commandment (i.e. his Sunnah— legal ways, orders, acts of worship, statements) (among the sects) beware, lest some Fitnah (disbelief, trials, afflictions, earthquakes, killing, overpowered by a tyrant) should befall them or a painful torment be inflicted on them”
[an-Noor 24:63].
Now to the verses the Hadith-rejector provides,and once this has been refuted,we can conclude.
This is the most quoted verse by Quranists,Quran 6:114-5.
This first of all,is an error by the Quranist
The verse says Anyone who does shirk,and seeks Judges other than Allah
"[Say], "Then is it other than Allah I should seek as judge while it is He who has revealed to you the Book explained in detail?" And those to whom We [previously] gave the Scripture know that it is sent down from your Lord in truth, so never be among the doubters."(6:114)
And the book explained in detail,who explained this book in detail,and where is this explanation found?
The Quran says the Messenger SAW explained it
":And We revealed to you [O Muhammad] the message [Qur’an] that you may make clear to the people what was sent down to them and that they might give thought. [Qur’an 16:44]"
So therefore it can only mean the hadith,and not the Quran only.
Now the second argument that they bring up,Is how do we know the hadith are true??
First of all,how do we know the Quran are true? through chain of narration,afcourse the Quran has a solid chain of narration and therefore due to that it is unchanged, and we have the earliest Quran aswell.
Same is with the hadith,The hadith was transmitted through solid chain of narration,we first look at,and then look at classical commentaries on these narrations,then decide which hadith is true or not, And we have As Sahifa Us Sadiqa,which was a hadith written by Sahabi Abdullah Bin Amr Al A'as. R.A
Now claiming these ways donot lead us to truth is an absurdity,thats like saying,Quran doesn't lead us to truth,we know these hadith are true due to their historical and narrative authenticity,not due to a presupposition a hadith rejector makes.
Therefore we can conclude.
That The hadith is indeed a authentic Islamic source and is indeed a outside-revelation that Muslims must follow in light of the Quran.

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"Your companion [Muhammad] has not strayed, nor has he erred,"(53:2)
"Nor does he speak from [his own] inclination."(53:3)
"It is not but a revelation revealed,"(53:4)
"Taught to him by one intense in strength -"(53:5)
"One of soundness. And he rose to [his] true form"(53:6)

The Companions were the ones who narrated the hadith,and not only that The Quran is clear in its wording,The Companion has not erred or strayed,so therefore the Hadith must be true,as they are from the Companions.
And his revelation was specifically revealed to the Prophet SAW,and it never says the revelation is in the Quran. infact it says a Sahabi was taught this revelations,in which he made it into a narration.

So therefore this can only be the hadith,nothing else.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Is faith Gullibility?
« on: November 23, 2017, 04:15:36 AM »
I've seen atheists making this claim alot of times that faith is gullibility so I need something to disprove it.

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We have some bacteria, known as normal flora, found on the palm and fingers of the hand. It is not harmful to humans, it in fact protects us from many damaging microbes in the environment. When you eat with your hands, the flora in the fingers is swallowed. It is beneficial for health and for various body parts such as the mouth, throat, and intestine, and it promotes healthy digestion in the gut. Handling food with your fingers releases digestive juices and enzymes. Also, millions of nerve endings in your fingers relay the message that you’re about to eat, including the temperature of the food, and texture of food, thereby prepping the stomach for digestion.

Benefits of the Normal Flora

There is an increased ability of the host to nourish itself since the bacteria Produce vitamins that the human body is ineffective to give forth like vitamin B12 and vitamin K.

They help digest food as they break down foodstuffs that are normally indigestible by the host into forms that are easily digestible by the hosts.

The Normal flora protects the host against infection by pathogenic organisms. similarly, this takes place as the normal flora out-competes the invader for available nutrients, therefore, starving the invader and preventing it from reproducing. Likewise, the normal flora may pre-occupy the favorable ecological niches for bacteria, e.g. the intestinal villi, so confronting the invading pathogen with the trouble of getting somewhere to anchor itself. Similarly, certain members of the normal flora produce anti-bacterial chemicals as a side product of their metabolism, therefore, taking a local antibiotic effect which hinders the invader.

The Normal flora helps in hiking up ones' immune system. The germ-free animals given birth to and brought up in a germ free environment are very susceptible to disease when transferred from the germ free environment since their immune system is still underdeveloped. Therefore, the presence of the Normal flora helps in protecting the human body from highly pathogenic organisms.

They synthesizes and excrete vitamins in surplus of their individual wants, which are useful to the host and which can be taken in as nutrients. For instance, in humans' body, enteric microorganisms produce and discharge Vitamin K and B12 whereas lactic acid microorganisms release vitamin B that are mostly utilized by the host as nutrients.

The microbes as well harbor colonization by microorganisms by contending for attachment places as well as for the essential nutrients. Consequently, this is considered their most significant profitable effect, that presents itself in the mouth, the bowel, the epidermis as well as in the vaginal epithelial tissues.



The Microbes induces the production of natural antibodies and thus contribute to the immunity in the human body. likewise by stimulating low levels of circulating and secretory antibodies, they enhance the bodies' immunity.

It may also counteract other microorganisms through the output of substances that stamp down and bottle up non-endemic classifications. The intestinal microorganisms fabricate a diversity of materials ranging from non-distinct fatty acids to distinct bacteriocins, that stamp and kill other microorganisms.

The microorganisms induce the growth of particular body tissues which include the individual lymphatic tissues and the caecum within the GI region.The caecum of bacterium-free organisms is thin walled, filled with fluids a well as enlarged in size in comparison to the ones in standard animals. Likewise, found upon the capacity to withstand immunological stimulation, the enteric lymphatic materials of the Conventional animals are highly developed as compared to those of the germ-free animals.

They stimulate an immunological response, in particular, an antibody-mediated immune response as they act as antigens in the human body. Low volumes of antibodies brought forth against the constituents of the microbes are acknowledged to respond with particular related microorganisms, and thus preventing infection as well as invasion of the human body. The antibodies fabricated against the antigen ingredients of the microbes are at times known as inborn antibodies, and which lack in bacterium-free organisms.

Intestinal human flora carry out a diverseness of all-important metabolic reactions that give rise to various compounds. The compounds include vitamins B12 and K and gas.


n 1938, Price63 established that bacteria recovered from the hands could be divided into two categories, namely resident or transient. The resident flora (resident microbiota) consists of microorganisms residing under the superficial cells of the stratum corneum and can also be found on the surface of the skin.64,65 Staphylococcus epidermidis is the dominant species,66 and oxacillin resistance is extraordinarily high, particularly among HCWs.67 Other resident bacteria include S. hominis and other coagulase-negative staphylococci, followed by coryneform bacteria (propionibacteria, corynebacteria, dermobacteria, and micrococci).68 Among fungi, the most common genus of the resident skin flora, when present, is Pityrosporum (Malassezia) spp.69. Resident flora has two main protective functions: microbial antagonism and the competition for nutrients in the ecosystem.70 In general, resident flora is less likely to be associated with infections, but may cause infections in sterile body cavities, the eyes, or on non-intact skin.71

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We believe God created Nature,something can only come from something through Nature,God doesn't need a Parent something,because he created Nature,if we were to imply Nature affects God,then he wouldn't be eternal,so thats why we dont apply worldly Nature to God,since God is out of the scope of nature,heck,he created Nature,so therefore,since God created nature,God does not have a creator.


Because if God did have a creator,he would've come under Nature,and that means he wouldn't be God anymore,so thats why since God created Nature,he doesn't have a creator,its a must for a creator of nature to be eternal and not have a creator,so he doesn't come under nature,so God is not under Nature for he created Nature,so therefore God must be eternal.

If we were to say I created a Robot,then I must not be a robot,orelse I'll come under the category of Robots,therefore I was not created/be a robot,orelse Ill come under the category of robots,in a similar manner,if we apply this in a similar manner to God,we see that God does not have a creator,since he does not come under nature,nature is the reason something comes out of something,therefore God must be out of nature for he created Nature,therefore God did not come out of nothing,and therefore God was eternal since he was before time and nature.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / I have this one question
« on: November 10, 2017, 03:50:47 PM »
So basically while debating some atheists,one of them bought up the issue of Spit and the blessings of Muhammad SAW and his sweat as perfume and they all said it was bizzare,can I have an answer to this?

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1:Petra was weakened by huge earthquakes around 500 BC

Petra declined rapidly under Roman rule, in large part from the revision of sea-based trade routes. In 363 an earthquake destroyed many buildings, and crippled the vital water management system.[18] The last inhabitants abandoned the city (further weakened by another major earthquake in 551) when the Arabs conquered the region in 663.[citation needed] The old city of Petra was the capital of the Byzantine province of Palaestina III and many churches were excavated in and around Petra from the Byzantine era. In one of them more than 150 papyri were discovered which contained mainly contracts.[citation needed] The ruins of Petra were an object of curiosity during the Middle Ages and were visited by Sultan Baibars of Egypt towards the end of the 13th century.
 this leads to point 2

2:There should've Mosques instead of churches after 636 there

If we thought logically Islam should've spread there not Christianity under Romans.

These 2 points are enough to destroy it,but the strongest point I've found for Petra was only the trade route argument and even that can easily be refuted

I'd recommend reading this
https://fayezthezealot.wordpress.com/2014/12/28/makkah-historical-mecca-during-pre-islamic-period/

And also reading about the Incense trade route which went from red sea,and it shows that Mecca is pinpointed in the trading route

The trade with Arabia and India in incense and spices became increasingly important, and Greeks for the first time began to trade directly with India. The discovery, or rediscovery, of the sea-route to India is attributed to a certain Eudoxos, who was sent out for this purpose towards the end of the reign of Ptolemy Euergetes II (died 116 BC). Eudoxos made two voyages to India, and subsequently, having quarrelled with his Ptolemaic employers, perished in an unsuccessful attempt to open up an alternative sea route to India, free of Ptolemaic control, by sailing around Africa. The establishment of direct contacts between Egypt and India was probably made possible by a weakening of Arab power at this period, for the Sabaean kingdom of South-western Arabia collapsed and was replaced by Himyarite Kingdom around 115 BC. Imports into Egypt of cinnamon and other eastern spices, such as pepper, increased substantially, though the Indian Ocean trade remained for the moment on quite a small scale, no more than twenty Egyptian ships venturing outside the Red Sea each year.   ”
Frankincense from Dhofar was collected at Moscha (ancient Sumhuram). It was shipped to Qana and taken overland to Shabwa and further North to Najran, MECCA, Medina, Petra and to Gaza on the Mediterranean Sea. It was also shipped to Babylon and Palmyra via the Persian Gulf.[20]
The Roman trade with India kept increasing, and according to Strabo (II.5.12.):[21]

So this is from 115 BC,so this proves that Mecca WAS indeed having a trade route aswell.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / The cancerous Atheist community
« on: November 06, 2017, 04:38:37 PM »
I've been noticing how atheists have been acting recently and I'm just annoyed,I'm in a mood for a rant but the issue is, Whenever you rant or point out issues in atheists they just cry out arguments,etc and when you refute them,most of your videos are crawling with atheist haters or even your account in facebook..

You can't ever criticize atheists because these are mostly sensitive teenagers under 18 going through an confused emotional crysis,and its true,most of the atheists in the world are mostly children-teen,very rarely there are adults-old,and literally,whenever an atheist finds out you have a religion or follow a certain faith or philosophy,they just burst in anger,they cannot handle that we believe in God,and this only proves to us God exists,because God says in the Quran Atheists will be angry once they realize the truth or see you in religion,and this only proves Allah even more true, and they are happily fulfilling the Quranic desc of a disbeliever.


And it really annoys me,how Atheists keep stalking,and following you around because you are a believer in religion.

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So this is basically like inverting the argument towards atheism and making it towards faith and saying faith is only for comfort,
But this is a dumb argument,because in faith,you have to pray 5 times a day,and put up with all days,fast,etc,etc and follow a Moral rule,so if Religion was for comfort,it would have never given out any orders,but in Atheism there is no Order,order does not exist in Atheism,so therefore Atheism is actually the Comfort-zone and the Mental Cushion,not religion,not belief in God,and this argument tries to dodge anything put against it,because its the "True atheist argument" and it is completely abhorrent because its over-used by some atheists.

And as for the rest of it,its baseless and embarassing because it ignores religious teachings,what religion is in life,what moral basis is,etc.

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So you know Science is the Basis Atheists deny God on, and also they use to try and disprove faith,etc,etc


but what If i told you everything in Science is not a fact,its true,Science can change,Something true in science today,is false tommorow,some people in the scientific community say PARTICLES dont exist,some say this doesnt exist,or that doesnt exist

Science is also Unstable on its basis,its basis can break into many parts,Biology,physics,chemistry,etc,etc so thats why Science therefore is not credible to prove or disprove something,thats philosophy or Logics job,not the job of science, Sciences job is to understand the universe and make a conclusion of whats going on within the universe,a HUMAN conclusion,so that conclusion can not always be true.

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So now he is back with even more stupidity and his own interpretation and interpolations against islam,his newest being Jizya

There are two articles which refuted this
http://aboutislam.net/counseling/ask-about-islam/jizya-humiliation-non-muslims/
https://discover-the-truth.com/2016/01/10/did-jews-get-expelled-from-arabia/

Now we wait for even more stupidity and incoherent material until Asadullah Ali Al Andalusi knocks his channel and beats it back to the grave where it was for over an year now.

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